2008 WSOP World Series of Poker Spoilers only for Episodes already aired on ESPN

[hummingbird_206]

Been watching weekly on ESPN. Last year made the mistake of looking online and saw the results before the eps aired So far this year I haven't known the results of any of the games before the eps air on ESPN and I hope took keep it that way.

Congrats to Eric Lindgrin for winning his first bracelet this year.

Big thumbs down to Scotty Nguyen in the Chip Reese memorial HORSE game. Didn't there used to be a rule about no profanity at the tables in the WSOP? Guess there isn't this year because Scotty was spewing four letter words all night. Don't see how he can be proud of that performance.

[flyers088]

Originally Posted by hummingbird_206

Been watching weekly on ESPN. Last year made the mistake of looking online and saw the results before the eps aired So far this year I haven't known the results of any of the games before the eps air on ESPN and I hope took keep it that way.

Congrats to Eric Lindgrin for winning his first bracelet this year.

Big thumbs down to Scotty Nguyen in the Chip Reese memorial HORSE game. Didn't there used to be a rule about no profanity at the tables in the WSOP? Guess there isn't this year because Scotty was spewing four letter words all night. Don't see how he can be proud of that performance.

I also have an issue with Scotty dumping a pot to keep E Lindgrin in the HORSE tourney when he clearly had the better hand. He was having an issue with the rookie in the tourney but that was a truly amateurish play.

[mattack]

You don't know the November Nine already? Wow.. Then don't listen to any poker podcasts. (The Two Plus Two one is great.)

[hummingbird_206]

Nope, no podcasts, no poker websites, nothing except the ESPN broadcasts. It really spoiled it for me last year knowing the results before the eps aired, so this year I'm trying really hard to not know ahead of time.

And yes, Scotty saying he was dumping a pot to Eric was just another in a long list of disgusting items that will keep me from ever rooting for Scotty to win anything. At one point Eric called someone over (the Tournament Director?) and said something to him, but I didn't catch what it was. Probably didn't matter since they didn't warn or discipline Scotty in any way.

[jsmeeker]

how can you avoid something so major in something you like so much for so long? Don't all of your poker friends talk about it non-stop?

[pjenkins]

scotty is da nutz, anyone not liking scotty isn't cool baby....

[scottjf8]

Originally Posted by hummingbird_206

Big thumbs down to Scotty Nguyen in the Chip Reese memorial HORSE game. Didn't there used to be a rule about no profanity at the tables in the WSOP? Guess there isn't this year because Scotty was spewing four letter words all night. Don't see how he can be proud of that performance.

**** ***** f*!ck baby baby *!&@ (!(@ *@( baby *!@ ****** ass*** baby

[LifeIsABeach]

Originally Posted by hummingbird_206

At one point Eric called someone over (the Tournament Director?) and said something to him, but I didn't catch what it was.

He complained about the guy who came over to the table to high-five Scotty. That is a no-no. I was very impressed with the young kid. Eric needled him about his constant bows and cheering and he was very professional after that. Scotty was anything but.

RIP Chip Reese

[hummingbird_206]

Originally Posted by jsmeeker

how can you avoid something so major in something you like so much for so long? Don't all of your poker friends talk about it non-stop?

It's tough, but so far I've managed. I don't usually go to great lengths to avoid spoilers on most things. I'll sometimes read the TV show threads here before watching the discussed ep and I watch the previews. It doesn't usually spoil things for me. But for the WSOP last year I knew ahead of time who won what bracelets and it really spoiled the broadcasts for me.

[Fool Me Twice]

Scotty was an embarrassment to himself and poker. Lindgren was all class. What did he say? "I'm not on Team Scotty. Never have been. Never will be." I was on Team Scotty. I tuned in to enjoy watching him take down the bracelet. But, he lost me. He's a bitter old drunk. Guess he can still play well enough to make a final table, even if he's had to give up cash games (probably a good idea if you're likely to get drunk and chase cards).

And Lindgren leaving Flack hanging with his high five--I think he was embarrassed to know the guy. I've always found Layne Flack to be one of the funniest and most entertaining players on TV poker, but apparently he turns into "that guy" when drunk.

[mcb08]

Originally Posted by Fool Me Twice

Scotty was an embarrassment to himself and poker. Lindgren was all class. What did he say? "I'm not on Team Scotty. Never have been. Never will be." I was on Team Scotty. I tuned in to enjoy watching him take down the bracelet. But, he lost me. He's a bitter old drunk. Guess he can still play well enough to make a final table, even if he's had to give up cash games (probably a good idea if you're likely to get drunk and chase cards).

And Lindgren leaving Flack hanging with his high five--I think he was embarrassed to know the guy. I've always found Layne Flack to be one of the funniest and most entertaining players on TV poker, but apparently he turns into "that guy" when drunk.

I just started watching this....haven't reached this point yet. Too bad, 'cuz I'm on Team Scotty, too.

[hummingbird_206]

Originally Posted by Fool Me Twice

Scotty was an embarrassment to himself and poker. Lindgren was all class. What did he say? "I'm not on Team Scotty. Never have been. Never will be." I was on Team Scotty. I tuned in to enjoy watching him take down the bracelet. But, he lost me. He's a bitter old drunk. Guess he can still play well enough to make a final table, even if he's had to give up cash games (probably a good idea if you're likely to get drunk and chase cards).

And Lindgren leaving Flack hanging with his high five--I think he was embarrassed to know the guy. I've always found Layne Flack to be one of the funniest and most entertaining players on TV poker, but apparently he turns into "that guy" when drunk.

Did they say on the HORSE telecast that Scotty gave up cash games? If so I missed it probably because several times I hit mute since I was tired of listening to Scotty spew.

And I agree, I've always been a Layne Flack fan, but his behavior was horrible, too.

[scottjf8]

Originally Posted by jsmeeker

Don't all of your poker friends talk about it non-stop?

Heyyyy. I do not.

[jsmeeker]

Originally Posted by scottjf8

Heyyyy. I do not.

[scottjf8]

Originally Posted by jsmeeker

I think I might be going to Vegas in December..

[jsmeeker]

Originally Posted by scottjf8

I think I might be going to Vegas in December..

If Smak is there, I know what you guys will be talking about. But maybe it won't be so bad since WSOP isn't going on.

[mcb08]

Just finished watching the HORSE tourney. Wow, Scotty was a complete a-hole. I lost count of how many times he should have been warned (what is the penalty for a violation, anyway?). Lindgren, OTOH, was/has always been a class act.

[EMoMoney]

Originally Posted by hummingbird_206

Didn't there used to be a rule about no profanity at the tables in the WSOP?

I know if you dropped the F bomb at the main event you were assessed a 15 minute penalty. I'm not sure if that applies to all events. They really need to outlaw drinking at the table. Scotty screaming for his f**king cocktail was one of the ugliest things I've seen.

[pjenkins]

Originally Posted by EMoMoney

I know if you dropped the F bomb at the main event you were assessed a 15 minute penalty.

no, not this year, that was last year. this year so long as you weren't using it against another player you were fine.

[hummingbird_206]

Originally Posted by pjenkins

no, not this year, that was last year. this year so long as you weren't using it against another player you were fine.

Too bad. I'm not against profanity, I've been known to use the F word myself. But Scotty crossed way over the line.

[scottjf8]

Scotty's Apology from Cardplayer Forums

I would like to apologize to all my fans for the disappointment I have caused in the H.O.R.S.E. Event. For that I would like to express my sincerest apology.

I would like to ask for understanding of what really took place. Keep in mind this was a five day event, with an almost fourteen hour final table that was reduced to two hours of air time including all the commercial breaks. With that being said, as you can imagine, more took place than what made the final cut for t.v. Last year’s Main Event I made the mistake of letting someone get under my skin, of which overtook my mental focus of the game, and cost me my tournament along with a lot of disappointment amongst my fans and peers. Since that time, it has haunted me and even now with the mistake that I made. As a professional, you always critique yourself to make yourself better, and in doing so you have to focus on the mistakes you make, in order to improve. This year, I needed redemption of my own 2007 Main Event demons to prove to myself that no one would get to me again.

This tournament was too important for me, the trophy, the fifth bracelet, and history, my head was zoned in for this event, and for that time, I forgot the fans were watching me. I said things I shouldn’t have said that have disappointed you, and I apologize for my actions. All my life, there have been many many tournaments, I put all the fans first, tried to play bad hands and win to give more excitement, and I would blow my tournament, however I have never regretted it, because without all you fans there would never be a Scotty Nguyen, and I appreciate all of you every which way. This tournament I played the players game. They wanted to play a drinking game, and they couldn’t win, they say they can’t even beat a drunk, how can you beat a drunk if I’m not drunk. They can’t beat me in a drinking game, now they play the talking game to try to get under my skin like in 2007, and I gave it right back to them and got underneath their skin, and they couldn’t win. When it came down to playing a poker game, the best will win. Because they can’t beat me in a drinking game, a talking game and then we played poker, of which they can’t beat me, and I am the one who brought the trophy home. This event I had my mind set, I wouldn’t let anything interfere between me and the bracelet and the Chip Reese trophy, and I proved that to the whole world. I can beat them at any game they want to play. And all I have to say, I hope all you fans understand what I’m trying to say. And watch the tape again. I was not the one to start anything, not even drinking or talking, they wanted to start it with me, and they got beat by me fair and square on all levels they wanted to play. All I would ever be sorry, is how the fans feel about me, I would never be sorry to beat those players. If they can’t accept defeat, then stay home, crawl under their loved ones arms, don’t bad mouth because you got beat by the best poker player. Another thing, I always bring joy and excitement to the poker game every time I’m on tv, and all of you know, when Scotty Nguyen is on tv, your eyes are glued on the screen. Why? Because I make it fun so you guys don’t switch the channel. All these years that is all you’ve seen of me, and that is the real me. That proves to you, how great and nice I am, I am the real deal. One cannot be on tv all these years with the same persona if it wasn’t the real deal. Even during this final table, I still took time for all the fans with a smile on my face. You have not even heard of one fan who was there that came up to me and could say that I was rude to them or out of line with them in any way. This was an issue at the table, and one I didn’t take out on the fans even during that time. This was business. How many players do you know that would do that to the fans except one, the Prince of Poker, Scotty Nguyen and once again I apologize to all of you. No excuses for my behavior in that $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. final table. And I have explained to you why and how that happened. Bottom line, I only ask for you to please understand and remember that I, Scotty Nguyen, the Prince of Poker is still a human being, just like all of you. I too have good times, bad times, sad times and angry times, just like everyone else in this world, and I hope you can understand that. I do promise to all the fans that no matter what, from now, I would never disappoint you again any which way. I forgot about the fans, and only focused on me. I am sorry.

Thank you,

Scotty Nguyen

[Faro]

I honestly can't tell what he is apologizing for.

[EMoMoney]

Originally Posted by scottjf8

Scotty's Apology from Cardplayer Forums

Did anybody else read this and in and hear the voice of Scotty in your head.

[jsmeeker]

Originally Posted by EMoMoney

Did anybody else read this and in and hear the voice of Scotty in your head.

you know it, baby.

[mattack]

Originally Posted by scottjf8

Scotty's Apology from

Must be a fake.. there's not even one 'baby' there.

(just kidding)

[scottjf8]

Originally Posted by Faro

I honestly can't tell what he is apologizing for.

Here's a good recap of his antics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IjdQnWmUAo

[busyba]

Originally Posted by scottjf8

Scotty's Apology from Cardplayer Forums

The way that reads, it's like the first paragraph and the next two sentences were written by Scotty's publicist and then the rest was written by Scotty after he got his f****ng cocktail.

[pmyers]

Originally Posted by busyba

The way that reads, it's like the first paragraph and the next two sentences were written by Scotty's publicist and then the rest was written by Scotty after he got his f****ng cocktail.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

I gained a LOT of respect for Lindgren after watching this and lost any respect I had for Scotty.

[Magister]

I would have been tempted to start calling for the Floor Guy to call him on the language. That was over the top. I am sorry he won.

Like pmyers, I was impressed by Lindgren, he was playing a great game and didn't appreaciate the drunk. Thought it was pretty funny he left Lane Flack hanging when he left.

[pmyers]

Yeah...Flack seemed just as much of as *ss as Scotty was.

I would love to see that entire final table unedited.