TiVo UI Control via Telnet - No Hacking Required!

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by ciper

ACK. For petes sake add the List button PLEASE.

It's freaking bad enough I have to hack my old Sony remote to work with the Tivo HD but now the only other remote control method (besides the pos peanut) is also missing my favorite button?! My head asplode.

Are you talking about my remote?

What button is missing?

Also, there was one button that I'm wasn't sure what to map it to, if anyone knows, I'll fix my program.

This button

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Crestron has a page up about this "module" of theirs. You need to have a login to download the module, but they do have a screen shot, which should illustrate the functions that are currently supported :



Looks like most of the bases have already been covered, but not all of them. For instance, the Crestron image shows an "aspect" and an "info" control.

This has an aspect button, but none of the IRCODE command listed affected the aspect. Does anyone know what the IRCODE for aspect is?

[wmcbrine]

Aspect = WINDOW

You might want to look at my remote.pyw; it's in there. "Window" is how this button was labelled when it first appeared on the peanut, IIRC, but it never did anything until it was assigned to aspect ratio control, starting with the HR10-250.

The button you couldn't identify is also the Window/Aspect button, BTW.

ciper: I haven't put the List button into my remote because, aside from the fact that it's not on most TiVo remotes, you can get the same functionality just by hitting the "TiVo" button twice. So "List" seems kinda pointless to me. And I have limited space in which to make buttons before the thing gets too big for some screens.

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by wmcbrine

Aspect = WINDOW

You might want to look at my remote.pyw, it's in there. "Window" is how this button was labelled when it first appeared on the peanut, IIRC, but it never did anything until it was assigned to aspect ratio control, starting with the HR10-250.

The button you couldn't identify is also the Window/Aspect button, BTW.

I probably sound dumb for this, but I couldn't get your program to run and I looked at the code in 010 editor a little bit. But then I just decided to write my own. My goal was/is to put a remote in my sidebar.

I do have python installed and I use it for pyTiVo, but for some reason your program doesn't do anything on my computer.

Edit: The Window button has been updated.

[jeepguy_1980]

I fixed a couple of bugs and added animation to the TiVo button to see what people think about applying it across all of the buttons, as well as an LED to indicate successful IR transmission (similar the real remote).

Updated Remote

Edit: The remote is now a single .jar file for your convenience.

[goodtrips]

jeepguy -- dying to try your app but am at a loss how to run it. i double click on the .jar file in mac osx 10.4. jar launcher opens briefly, but then closes and then nothing.

not sure how much of a stretch this is, but asking since you are using java -- having a javascript html version where you can manually define an IP address would be amazing.

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

I fixed a couple of bugs and added animation to the TiVo button to see what people think about applying it across all of the buttons, as well as an LED to indicate successful IR transmission (similar the real remote).

Updated Remote

I think the graphic need to be more compact. I tried to put my tivo remote on the scanner, but the curvature made the top and bottom blurry.

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by goodtrips

jeepguy -- dying to try your app but am at a loss how to run it. i double click on the .jar file in mac osx 10.4. jar launcher opens briefly, but then closes and then nothing.

not sure how much of a stretch this is, but asking since you are using java -- having a javascript html version where you can manually define an IP address would be amazing.

That was my original goal. However, browsers security prevents java applets running in a browser from communicating with any IPs other than the host computer and the local computer.

You cannot run the app from inside of the zip. You need to extract the files to a folder and then run the .jar. If that doesn't work, try this.

Originally Posted by ThAbtO

I think the graphic need to be more compact. I tried to put my tivo remote on the scanner, but the curvature made the top and bottom blurry.

I'm not sure what you mean by putting it on your scanner.

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

You cannot run the app from inside of the zip. You need to extract the files to a folder and then run the .jar.

I extracted the .jar file and the LIB folder to my desktop and can then run .jar.

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

I'm not sure what you mean by putting it on your scanner.

I have a flatbed scanner (Lexmark X6570) which I put the remote face down upon. With the cover up, I put a sheet of paper on top of the remote and illuminate it with the room light.

How's this for a remote image Its from the Tivo Store.

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by ThAbtO

I have a flatbed scanner (Lexmark X6570) which I put the remote face down upon. With the cover up, I put a sheet of paper on top of the remote and illuminate it with the room light.

You're saying you do this with your physical remote? I'm not sure how this is related to the size of my program, or how how the program is blurry at the top and bottom.

I guess I don't fully understand what you're saying.

Originally Posted by ThAbtO

How's this for a remote image Its from the Tivo Store.

I was going to use the black image from their store, but it's not really a graphic. It's a photo and it has light reflecting off of it. Plus, the remote would have to be sliced into a bunch of square/rectangular images to piece them back together in Netbeans, b/c it automatically makes all of the buttons into squares.

[ThAbtO]

I scanned my tivo remote literally; but the curvature of the face prevents it from sitting flat thus the resulting image is blurred on the top and bottom.

[ciper]

Originally Posted by wmcbrine

ciper: I haven't put the List button into my remote because, aside from the fact that it's not on most TiVo remotes, you can get the same functionality just by hitting the "TiVo" button twice. So "List" seems kinda pointless to me. And I have limited space in which to make buttons before the thing gets too big for some screens.

You can press Tivo twice but it's slower because the Tivo has to load the main menu (with all its options and the background video) and then load the list (with the current recordings and a different background video). If you have a universal remote you should try programming the list button into it and use it for a while. It's an awesome feature once you get used to it.

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by ciper

You can press Tivo twice but it's slower because the Tivo has to load the main menu (with all its options and the background video) and then load the list (with the current recordings and a different background video). If you have a universal remote you should try programming the list button into it and use it for a while. It's an awesome feature once you get used to it.

When I double tap my TiVo button, it brings up the Now Playing list instantly.

[ciper]

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

When I double tap my TiVo button, it brings up the Now Playing list instantly.

The list button brings it up even faster than instantly! It goes back in time slightly

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by ciper

The list button brings it up even faster than instantly! It goes back in time slightly

Make a list icon and I'll make a version of the remote for you that includes it.

[ciper]

I'll try to make a good looking button.
Here is what the button looked like under TivoWebPlus on the peanut skin

Here is a picture of the button on the Sony remote

[jeepguy_1980]

Here you go.

My button really looks like crap. I am trying to get the psd version of the buttons used in the iPhone app, so that I can animate all of them. If I get them, I should also be able to edit the text and make a better looking list button.

[ThAbtO]

The numbers on the Java version does not work.

[cobb]

The numbers work, just not quite like the real remote.
On the Java version, the numbers appear in red next to the enter button.
It only sends the numbers to tivo when you hit the enter button.

Jeepguy, I like the animated TIvo button, but if I could change one thing,
I think I would have to go with ThAbtO...in making the button layout more
compact. There's plenty of black empty space in the Java window; I would
like to see the whole window get skinnier...this would let me make my TV
window bigger but still not overlap the remote.



Oh, and a better window title Like "Tivo Remote"

[jeepguy_1980]

Originally Posted by cobb

The numbers work, just not quite like the real remote.
On the Java version, the numbers appear in red next to the enter button.
It only sends the numbers to tivo when you hit the enter button.

Jeepguy, I like the animated TIvo button, but if I could change one thing,
I think I would have to go with ThAbtO...in making the button layout more
compact. There's plenty of black empty space in the Java window; I would
like to see the whole window get skinnier...this would let me make my TV
window bigger but still not overlap the remote.


Oh, and a better window title Like "Tivo Remote"

I just updated the window title, I hadn't noticed that before. You can just re-download the same link.

I'll look into the possibility of reconfiguring the functionality of the number buttons and making the layout more compact. If anyone has a suggestion, make a jpg and post it.

I still haven't got a response on my request of the psd files for the buttons used in this app, so that will make animating the buttons a bit more difficult. Especially since I'm not good with graphics.

[jeepguy_1980]

I made it a little bit skinnier now.

[cobb]

Thanks jeepguy,
The "Netmote" is working great for me!

I don't have a problem with the number buttons.
I kind of like the way it is.
Its just not obvious to someone new, as they will typically be watching the TV when hitting the buttons and they won't see the little red numbers on the Netmote.

The last thing I would suggest is some way to remember Tivo's IP so that it doesn't prompt everytime you start. Auto-discovery of the Tivo would be great too but I have no idea how hard that would be. A simply memory of the last IP used with no prompt would work fine for me.

Thanks again,
cobb

[MWR]

Hi.

I have a TIVOHD and in windows telnet I don't seem to be able to connect with "o 192.168.1.4 31339." I get a "Could not open connection to the host, on port 31339: Connect failed." I'm sure that IP is my TIVO's IP. I tried turning off my connecting PC's firewall completely but it still acts that like port is not open. Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike

[ThAbtO]

Originally Posted by MWR

Hi.

I have a TIVOHD and in windows telnet I don't seem to be able to connect with "o 192.168.1.4 31339." I get a "Could not open connection to the host, on port 31339: Connect failed." I'm sure that IP is my TIVO's IP. I tried turning off my connecting PC's firewall completely but it still acts that like port is not open. Any ideas?

thanks,
Mike

This could help fix that.

Originally Posted by LoREvanescence

I just wanted to report that in 9.4 this UI control via Telnet or any application is now disabled.

To enable it again, you have to go to Messages & Settings > Remote, CableCARD, & Devices > Network Remote Control

Then you have to enable it, by default, the option is set to disables.

[MWR]

Thank you!!!
I thought I read through the entire thread, but I missed that post.

Thanks,
MWR

[MWR]

Is there a telnet command to force the sound to DD5.1 instead of PCM? Basically using HDMI I want to by-pass the E-EDID autodetect and force DD5.1.

Thanks,
MWR

[Pantsface]

Thanks for all the hard work. What a great find and app(s)!!

[goofyneuf]

Was there any response to this? I have encountered similar problems -- there is no standard "prompt" to wait for after submitting commands via telnet...

by "this" -- I was replying to the thread about whether there was any way to set the prompt so that an acknowledgement can be received for parsing with a Java-based driver.

Thanks!

[Joe Q]

Has anyone figured out a way of usng this Telnet capbility to allow one to Delete a recording?

Here is why I ask.
TivoDesktop will allow one to delete a recording that is on your PC's disk but NOT on the Tivo itself.

I find that scrolling around the Tivo's menu via the Tivo remote to be a bit tedious and slow when I am trying to clean up uneeded recordings.

Being able to do this via a Point and Click PC interface would be really useful.


See the enclosed markup as an example of the idea I am talking about.
I took a screen snapshot of the nowplaying list and added a Delete field on the left in Red.

Does not have to be a fancy web interface like the one I marked up but a simple text list and a checkbox would be just as good.

Ideas on how one could do this?

Thanks

[ThAbtO]

I found some things I can't do on the NetMote is when I press the numbers because they aren't as active like the other buttons. I.e.: Tivo + 2, or changing channels, ie: 4-3 just goes to channel 4.