Something I'd rather have than a FSI...

[SMWinnie]

Can I record a few shows in a row, with padding, on the same channel with the same tuner?

Frex, I've been recording Chuck, Heroes and Quantum Leap on NBC on Mondays. Start & stop times are not always dead on, so I usually have little stub pieces of show in the wrong place. I can pad, but then I tie up both tuners at 9:00 and 10:00.

So long as there's a "previously, on _____" leadin, I can start and stop late and this is no biggie. Does seem inelegant, though. I don't see why a couple minutes of the same recorded stream can't be the end of one program and the beginning of another.

(Why watch Chuck? Eh...show's OK. I'm waiting for a Best Buy ad.)

[JimSpence]

If the shows are on back to back to back on the same channel, then you could set the first show to record and pad it by 2 hours to capture the following two.

Or possibly make sure that each if the shows follow each other in the season pass manager.

[Jonathan_S]

It would be nice if the TiVo could automatically handle that situation on a single tuner. After all as you point out, there shouldn't be a major technical hurdle to recording the same stream twice.

However, I suspect that TiVo wouldn't want to implement that just to avoid customer confusion. Having to explain that the TiVo can sometimes record two (or four) things at once, but only in specific circumstances, could be a burden to customer support.
(Although, to be fair, I thought they'd never support asymmetric tuners for the same reason and then they came out with the S2-DT with asymmetric tuners [only one can handle the cable box])

[scandia101]

I record the three mentioned shows every week and hve no little out of place stub pieces of shows. In fact, at the end of chuck, the very last thing is the warner bros. logo and that usually gets split between recordings and the same goes for the Universal media logo at the end of heroes.

If your recordings are off by more than just the "next on... " or "previously on..." segments, maybe your local NBC station is what need to make changes rather than Tivo.

[tomryan]

Originally Posted by SMWinnie

I've been recording Chuck, Heroes and Quantum Leap on NBC on Mondays.

whew.. that's a relief, I thought I was the only one recording Quantum Leap on Monday nights.

Hopefully the ratings will go up or it will be a very short encore act.

[qz3fwd]

Heck, you would think that as the tivo stores the streams to disc, it would be as simple as modifying a few pointers in the metadata/database for the start/stop locations for each show, with no need to copy any data over to multiple streams. Lets say you record Chuck, Heroes and Journeyman (I thought Quantum Leap went off the air years ago. Maybe you meant QL II?). If Tivo records 1 stream(file), say
"NBCHD.2000-2200.11.21.2007.ts"
In the database is:
Title / Source / Start / End(Byte Position)
Chuck "Chuck versus..." 0 7000000000
Heroes "Part 2000......" 7000000001 14000000000
Journeyman "Time Traveler....." 14000000001 21000000000

Just modify the start/stop pointers to get whatever overlap you want, all recorded with 1 tuner.

[qz3fwd]

Question:
Being a noob, only having my first Tivo for 2 weeks, IF there are several PID's on a QAM channel, and I want to record 2 of these streams passing through the (1) tuner, is the S3 smart enough to simply filter the mux and allow multiple recordings. As an example, say I have it hooked up to cable for both tuners. Lets say at 500MHz is a mux with ABC-HD, NBC-HD, and CBS-HD and at 600MHz is a mux with DiscoveryHD and Universal-HD. Say tuner 1 is locked on 500 while tuner 2 is locked on 600. Can I record all 5 shows? It should be possible and would be cool.

[mattack]

Originally Posted by SMWinnie

Can I record a few shows in a row, with padding, on the same channel with the same tuner?

Nope, I think this would be great too.. (though I *finally* have enough tuners to pad almost every show I record.) It's about as old a suggestion as FSI too..

Even if the Tivo had to 'duplicate' the overlapping section afterwards into each recording (to be a much simpler/dumber back end), that would be preferable IMHO.

[samo]

Originally Posted by SMWinnie

Can I record a few shows in a row, with padding, on the same channel with the same tuner?

Frex, I've been recording Chuck, Heroes and Quantum Leap on NBC on Mondays. Start & stop times are not always dead on, so I usually have little stub pieces of show in the wrong place. I can pad, but then I tie up both tuners at 9:00 and 10:00.

So long as there's a "previously, on _____" leadin, I can start and stop late and this is no biggie. Does seem inelegant, though. I don't see why a couple minutes of the same recorded stream can't be the end of one program and the beginning of another.

Why chose between FSI and recording on the same channels with overlap? Why not have both of these features? DirecTV HR20 has them both.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...&postcount=582

[SMWinnie]

Originally Posted by JimSpence

If the shows are on back to back to back on the same channel, then you could set the first show to record and pad it by 2 hours to capture the following two.

Sure, that works to record the material. But (following my example) you end up with Heroes and Quantum Leap buried in a three-hour long block of Chuck.

At my house, we tend to record several weeks of shows and watch in single-series mini-marathons. We could watch all the Chuck and Heroes episodes but wouldn't be able to delete until we finish the whole block.

As it is, I'm recording 7:59 - 9:01, 9:01 - 10:01 and 10:01 - 11:01. Still wondering whether Al and his wife are reunited, whether Ziggy hooks up with that nice Sparc cluster and why Sam is talking with an Aussie accent now.

[SMWinnie]

Originally Posted by samo

Why chose between FSI and recording on the same channels with overlap? Why not have both of these features? DirecTV HR20 has them both.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...&postcount=582

Thanks for the pointer (and the reminder that SciFi is as bad as NBC about keeping their shows on schedule).

[TromboneKenny]

Originally Posted by tomryan

whew.. that's a relief, I thought I was the only one recording Quantum Leap on Monday nights.

Hopefully the ratings will go up or it will be a very short encore act.

You mean Journeyman? (OT, but couldn't help myself...)