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10-28-2007, 04:24 PM
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MFSCopy - How longdoes it take?
I started doing MFSCopy for Tivo HD from 160gig (with ~10 hours of HD) to 750 gig. 160GB is connected via USB1.1 - SATA adapter and 750Gig is directly connected via Sata cables.
After I started MFS Copy, computer almost froze (can barely move the mouse) and progress bar is not updating. It has been about an hour and I was wondering how much more should I wait or whether I should even wait?
So, usually how long does it take to complete MFS Copy?
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10-28-2007, 04:41 PM
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USB 1.1 = 12.00 Mbs or 5.40 GB/h Transfer Rate (Theoretical)
10 hrs HD = ~6G/hr + TIVO OS ~0.5G
60.5GB/5.4GB/h = 11.2hrs
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10-28-2007, 05:29 PM
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I tried it with a USB/SATA converter, and ETA was about 10 or 11 hours. I let it go for about 10 to 12 hours, and it still wasn't done. I finally interupted it and took apart my computer to do the SATA ports directly.
For me, copying a 750gb drive that was full to a 1tb drive took about 3.5 hours (3 hrs and 20 minutes if I remember right). This was having both drives hooked up directly to SATA ports.
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10-28-2007, 05:56 PM
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I would rather have this Sata to Sata. But, my machine has only 2 sata ports, one of which is the Windows Drive. And, since WinMFS works only on Windows, I have to keep that running. So, I don't have any choice other than connecting one of them via USB.
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10-28-2007, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by emerz
USB 1.1 = 12.00 Mbs or 5.40 GB/h Transfer Rate (Theoretical)
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The transfer rate will be far less than 12 Mbps - USB involves a lot of protocol overhead. You might get 8 Mbps or so, putting the estimate about half again as long, so about 18 hours or so.
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10-28-2007, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kobari
I would rather have this Sata to Sata. But, my machine has only 2 sata ports, one of which is the Windows Drive. And, since WinMFS works only on Windows, I have to keep that running. So, I don't have any choice other than connecting one of them via USB.
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You should use USB 2.0. USB 1.1 is painfully slow.
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10-28-2007, 08:02 PM
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Wow - I just did the same thing (160GB -> 750GB with a lot of recordings) on two drives both connected via SATA and it took about 1 hour.
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10-28-2007, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spike2k5
You should use USB 2.0. USB 1.1 is painfully slow.
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Amen.
With USB 2.0 - eSata I get about .6GB/min copy speed in WinMFS. That happens to be about 60-70% of the copy speed I get between USB2.0 drives using windows (ie ~1GB/min)
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10-28-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mars Rocket
Wow - I just did the same thing (160GB -> 750GB with a lot of recordings) on two drives both connected via SATA and it took about 1 hour.
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Spike has said in the past that Sata-Sata is over 2GB/min on a good computer. 
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10-28-2007, 09:59 PM
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I would be highly skeptical that USB 1.1 is going to cut it. It's likely you're going to get IO timeouts running on a bus that slow.
My advice would be to use TTG and pull off the recordings you want, do a truncated backup in winmfs to file, shut down, put in the target drive, do a restore from the backup, extend the drive, and go about your business. TTCB will eventually allow you to get the recordings back.
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10-28-2007, 10:34 PM
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I couldn't imagine using a USB 1.1 interface to copy a drive. It is too slow for anything like that.
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10-28-2007, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kobari
I would rather have this Sata to Sata. But, my machine has only 2 sata ports, one of which is the Windows Drive. And, since WinMFS works only on Windows, I have to keep that running. So, I don't have any choice other than connecting one of them via USB.
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I think I'd use the MFSLive boot CD in this and try the SATA to SATA.
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10-29-2007, 09:35 AM
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You could also try creating a Bart PE Win XP SP2 boot CD and boot into a Windows environment from it, with your regular drive disconnected. Just make sure you put the WinMFS app on the CD as well and you should be fine.
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
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