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Old 09-10-2012, 07:25 AM   #8971
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Prepping myself for the idea that I may need to install a new hard drive. It is the TivoHD XL (TCD658000). 3 years ago I upgraded from 1tb to 2tb by following the bkdtv directions in this thread. I used a WD 2tb drive. The drive started to fail 6 months later. So the 2nd time around, I repaired it by cloning. I figure I didn't need to follow the steps again because I'm not expanding from a smaller drive. I'm going from 2tb to 2tb, so I figure cloning should work and it did. It's been 2 and half years, and I may need a new drive again. So my question to you guys is.. Do you guys think cloning again will work with some of these newer drives with intellipark?

I'll find out soon enough, but if someone have tried before and know for sure it does not work, please let me know. Thank you!

Also, what do you recommend and do you know of any success stories, or which to avoid among these 3?:

WD20EARX

WD20EURS

WDBAAY0020HNC-NRSN

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Old 09-10-2012, 08:11 AM   #8972
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Prepping myself for the idea that I may need to install a new hard drive. It is the TivoHD XL (TCD658000). 3 years ago I upgraded from 1tb to 2tb by following the bkdtv directions in this thread. I used a WD 2tb drive. The drive started to fail 6 months later. So the 2nd time around, I repaired it by cloning. I figure I didn't need to follow the steps again because I'm not expanding from a smaller drive. I'm going from 2tb to 2tb, so I figure cloning should work and it did. It's been 2 and half years, and I may need a new drive again. So my question to you guys is.. Do you guys think cloning again will work with some of these newer drives with intellipark?

I'll find out soon enough, but if someone have tried before and know for sure it does not work, please let me know. Thank you!

Also, what do you recommend and do you know of any success stories, or which to avoid among these 3?:

WD20EARX

WD20EURS

WDBAAY0020HNC-NRSN

After you run the long test from the WD diagnostic software on the new drive, run

wdidle3

to disable Intellipark or set the timer to something really long, like 300 seconds.

The first drive on your list I'd avoid, since the model number ends in X, and we keep seeing people have trouble with those in TiVos.

The second one, the EURS, seems to have been used successfully by a number of people here.

The third one is problematic because you don't know what WD is actually going to put in the box.

At one time it would have been a non-advanced format WD20EADS, which would be fine (I've been running one in a TCD652160 for about 10 months now with no problems, and I'm running 3 more in computers to hold off-laoded TiVo recordings), and that's the model Amazon is showing in the pictures, but if you get it be prepared for it to be who knows what, perhaps an advanced format WD20EACS with 16MB of cache or an advanced format WD20EARS with 64MB of cache, which some people here have reported success with, or some other model number entirely.

Also I see the price on the WDBAAY0020HNC-NRSN is starting to climb back up again.

I would avoid WD drives which are both AF and 6Gb/s instead of 3Gb/s in favor of older models.

Since they offer a 3 year warranty on the EURS, just like the retail box models, that's probably your safest bet at this point.

You'll know in advance what you're getting.

Assuming they haven't changed the published specs and kept the old model number like they did with the 1TB WD10EADS.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:02 AM   #8973
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I would avoid WD drives which are both AF and 6Gb/s instead of 3Gb/s in favor of older models.
what about a Hitachi drive that is not AF, but is 6gb/s?

http://www.hgst.com/deskstar-7k3000
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:02 AM   #8974
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what about a Hitachi drive that is not AF, but is 6gb/s?

http://www.hgst.com/deskstar-7k3000
Look at Lussie's post #8737 in this thread.
The Hitachi drive he used is described as 6 GB/sec by Amazon.com.
http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Deskst...itachi+0S02861
However pinning down HDD models and specs does get tricky. And Lussie's upgrade situation may not apply to you. Some drives have a jumper that will make them 3 GB/sec. Research your selection on the WD/Hitachi website. Unfortunately, at this time choosing a drive for upgrading a TiVo has become "a crap shoot" thanks to WD introducing AF, as mentioned in an earlier post.

Sure would like to know how the "plug-in" drive sellers (weaknees.com and DVR_DUDE) are handing AF and I'm wondering if they really ARE handling it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:04 AM   #8975
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what about a Hitachi drive that is not AF, but is 6gb/s?

http://www.hgst.com/deskstar-7k3000
Don't know enough about it to say one way or the other.

I think I saw someone mention a 1TB or 2TB Hitachi around here (i.e., tivocommunity.com/somewhereinallthedifferentforums), but I can't remember if they were saying nice things or not, so I'll let you search the entire site for a few hours.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:09 AM   #8976
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........ Unfortunately, at this time choosing a drive for upgrading a TiVo has become "a crap shoot" thanks to WD introducing AF, as mentioned in an earlier post.

Sure would like to know how the "plug-in" drive sellers (weaknees.com and DVR_DUDE) are handing AF and I'm wondering if they really ARE handling it.
I will add: If I had to upgrade right now I would probably get one of the "plug-in" drives due to the uncertainty about choosing a DIY drive. At least that way you have a warranty if it doesn't work out.
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Old 09-12-2012, 03:50 PM   #8977
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I got the WD20EURS. Over 12 hours wasted cause the freaking PC restarted during my cloning process. Probably a windows update or virus scan, and then it automatically restarted. Is there a way to prevent this from happening? It's probably one of those pop ups that asked me to restart or postpone, and I wasn't by the computer. I knew it was too good to be true when I woke up to see it finished this morning.
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I got the WD20EURS. Over 12 hours wasted cause the freaking PC restarted during my cloning process. Probably a windows update or virus scan, and then it automatically restarted. Is there a way to prevent this from happening? It's probably one of those pop ups that asked me to restart or postpone, and I wasn't by the computer. I knew it was too good to be true when I woke up to see it finished this morning.
Don't use Windows to do the cloning.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:59 PM   #8979
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Don't use Windows to do the cloning.
I was successful with windows last time. This gave me a chance to go back into the drive and delete more stuff so the whole process can be faster. Tivo just doesn't make it easy for you to delete stuff. Especially in my situation when the drive is failing and there is major lag. Deleting is a pain in the you know what. Wish you can check ALL and permanently delete all at once, or uncheck the ones you want to keep/recover. I've disabled everything in windows now.. the updates, the virus schedule, etc.

When you say don't use windows, you mean use mac? I do have a little macbook air, but the thing has one fan and gets hot easily. Don't want to risk burning my mac.
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I was successful with windows last time. This gave me a chance to go back into the drive and delete more stuff so the whole process can be faster. Tivo just doesn't make it easy for you to delete stuff. Especially in my situation when the drive is failing and there is major lag. Deleting is a pain in the you know what. Wish you can check ALL and permanently delete all at once, or uncheck the ones you want to keep/recover. I've disabled everything in windows now.. the updates, the virus schedule, etc.

When you say don't use windows, you mean use mac? I do have a little macbook air, but the thing has one fan and gets hot easily. Don't want to risk burning my mac.
No, I mean use JMFS or MFSLive or any bootable Linux disk that has a bit for bit copy capability.
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No, I mean use JMFS or MFSLive or any bootable Linux disk that has a bit for bit copy capability.
I've seen the JMFS discussion, two concerns:

1. Seems to be for premiere? I have a tivoHD XL.
2. Instructions are about expanding, going from small to large. Would I be able to go from 2tb to 2tb?
3. Is it faster?
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I've seen the JMFS discussion, two concerns:

1. Seems to be for premiere? I have a tivoHD XL.
2. Instructions are about expanding, going from small to large. Would I be able to go from 2tb to 2tb?
3. Is it faster?
JMFS was developed for the Premiere but can be used tp expand a TiVo HD or HD XL. Instructions are here.

But that's not really what I was talking about. I was saying to boot a Linux disk (both JMFS and MFSLive are such) and use a dd command to clone the drive. That will eliminate the problem you think you had with Windows booting to install a fix.
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But that's not really what I was talking about. I was saying to boot a Linux disk and use a dd command to clone the drive. That will eliminate the problem you think you had with Windows booting to install a fix.
Good adivce.
Every TiVo drive that I have replaced; dd command was used...
I go back to S1 days when a windows option was not available.
I have never been comfortable with connecting a TiVo drive to my PC with a windows drive...

dd command is not the most elegant but it works; works every time.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:55 PM   #8984
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The

-q

isn't necessary, it just hides what's going on (stands for quiet mode)

fdisk -l

would show you some things about the drives, and I think that includes size.

pdisk -l

would show you the partition map for the drive that's already a TiVo drive and wouldn't show one for the drive that's not a TiVo drive yet.

If you happen to have occasion to take the 2TB drive out of the TiVo, I'd love to see the partition map for it.

pdisk -l /dev/sda

redirected to a text file should do it.

I don't expect to have the drive pulled again. I didn't run the command you listed, but I did save the output of the mfsinfo /dev/sda command for both the old and the new drive.

This (below) is from the new 2G drive after copy and mfsadd.

Don't know if this contains the info you were looking for.


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Super Header
state=0 magic=ebbafeed
devlist=/dev/hda10 /dev/hda11 /dev/hda12 /dev/hda13 /dev/hda14 /dev/hda15
zonemap_ptr=1121 total_secs=3904364544
---------------------------------------------------------------------
MFS volume set for /dev/sda
The MFS volume set contains 6 partitions
Partition sectors size
/dev/sda10 589824 288 MiB
/dev/sda11 137629696 67202 MiB
/dev/sda12 589824 288 MiB
/dev/sda13 171919360 83945 MiB
/dev/sda14 2048 1 MiB
/dev/sda15 3593633792 1754704 MiB
Total MFS sectors: -390602752d
Total MFS volume size: 1906428 MiB
Estimated hours in a standalone TiVo: 2379
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Zone Maps
Zone 0: type=0
map_start=1121 map_size=1 backup_map_start=589822
next_map_start=263266 next_map_size=6 next_backup_map_start=589816
zone_first=1122 zone_last=263265 zone_size=262144 min(chunk)=262144
free=262144 checksum=2400359062 logstamp=5973039 num_bitmap=1
Zone 1: type=2
map_start=263266 map_size=6 backup_map_start=589816
next_map_start=263272 next_map_size=34 next_backup_map_start=589782
zone_first=589824 zone_last=138215423 zone_size=137625600 min(chunk)=20480
free=61808640 checksum=626985703 logstamp=6607302 num_bitmap=14
Zone 2: type=1
map_start=263272 map_size=34 backup_map_start=589782
next_map_start=138219520 next_map_size=1 next_backup_map_start=138809343
zone_first=263306 zone_last=589777 zone_size=326472 min(chunk)=8
free=204320 checksum=4089559378 logstamp=6607302 num_bitmap=17
Zone 3: type=0
map_start=138219520 map_size=1 backup_map_start=138809343
next_map_start=138481665 next_map_size=10 next_backup_map_start=138809333
zone_first=138219521 zone_last=138481664 zone_size=262144 min(chunk)=262144
free=262144 checksum=2874637398 logstamp=5973039 num_bitmap=1
Zone 4: type=2
map_start=138481665 map_size=10 backup_map_start=138809333
next_map_start=138481675 next_map_size=34 next_backup_map_start=138809299
zone_first=138809344 zone_last=310718463 zone_size=171909120 min(chunk)=20480
free=79298560 checksum=1125163402 logstamp=6607302 num_bitmap=15
Zone 5: type=1
map_start=138481675 map_size=34 backup_map_start=138809299
next_map_start=310728705 next_map_size=66 next_backup_map_start=310730685
zone_first=138481709 zone_last=138809292 zone_size=327584 min(chunk)=8
free=313872 checksum=3171754163 logstamp=6606487 num_bitmap=17
Zone 6: type=2
map_start=310728705 map_size=66 backup_map_start=310730685
next_map_start=0 next_map_size=0 next_backup_map_start=0
zone_first=310730752 zone_last=3904364543 zone_size=3593633792 min(chunk)=32768
free=3593633792 checksum=3746675571 logstamp=0 num_bitmap=18
Total Inodes = 262144
This MFS volume may be expanded 3 more times
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I don't expect to have the drive pulled again. I didn't run the command you listed, but I did save the output of the mfsinfo /dev/sda command for both the old and the new drive.

This (below) is from the new 2G drive after copy and mfsadd.

Don't know if this contains the info you were looking for.


---------------------------------------------------------------------
Super Header
state=0 magic=ebbafeed
devlist=/dev/hda10 /dev/hda11 /dev/hda12 /dev/hda13 /dev/hda14 /dev/hda15
zonemap_ptr=1121 total_secs=3904364544
---------------------------------------------------------------------
MFS volume set for /dev/sda
The MFS volume set contains 6 partitions
Partition sectors size
/dev/sda10 589824 288 MiB
/dev/sda11 137629696 67202 MiB
/dev/sda12 589824 288 MiB
/dev/sda13 171919360 83945 MiB
/dev/sda14 2048 1 MiB
/dev/sda15 3593633792 1754704 MiB
Total MFS sectors: -390602752d
Total MFS volume size: 1906428 MiB
Estimated hours in a standalone TiVo: 2379
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Zone Maps
Zone 0: type=0
map_start=1121 map_size=1 backup_map_start=589822
next_map_start=263266 next_map_size=6 next_backup_map_start=589816
zone_first=1122 zone_last=263265 zone_size=262144 min(chunk)=262144
free=262144 checksum=2400359062 logstamp=5973039 num_bitmap=1
Zone 1: type=2
map_start=263266 map_size=6 backup_map_start=589816
next_map_start=263272 next_map_size=34 next_backup_map_start=589782
zone_first=589824 zone_last=138215423 zone_size=137625600 min(chunk)=20480
free=61808640 checksum=626985703 logstamp=6607302 num_bitmap=14
Zone 2: type=1
map_start=263272 map_size=34 backup_map_start=589782
next_map_start=138219520 next_map_size=1 next_backup_map_start=138809343
zone_first=263306 zone_last=589777 zone_size=326472 min(chunk)=8
free=204320 checksum=4089559378 logstamp=6607302 num_bitmap=17
Zone 3: type=0
map_start=138219520 map_size=1 backup_map_start=138809343
next_map_start=138481665 next_map_size=10 next_backup_map_start=138809333
zone_first=138219521 zone_last=138481664 zone_size=262144 min(chunk)=262144
free=262144 checksum=2874637398 logstamp=5973039 num_bitmap=1
Zone 4: type=2
map_start=138481665 map_size=10 backup_map_start=138809333
next_map_start=138481675 next_map_size=34 next_backup_map_start=138809299
zone_first=138809344 zone_last=310718463 zone_size=171909120 min(chunk)=20480
free=79298560 checksum=1125163402 logstamp=6607302 num_bitmap=15
Zone 5: type=1
map_start=138481675 map_size=34 backup_map_start=138809299
next_map_start=310728705 next_map_size=66 next_backup_map_start=310730685
zone_first=138481709 zone_last=138809292 zone_size=327584 min(chunk)=8
free=313872 checksum=3171754163 logstamp=6606487 num_bitmap=17
Zone 6: type=2
map_start=310728705 map_size=66 backup_map_start=310730685
next_map_start=0 next_map_size=0 next_backup_map_start=0
zone_first=310730752 zone_last=3904364543 zone_size=3593633792 min(chunk)=32768
free=3593633792 checksum=3746675571 logstamp=0 num_bitmap=18
Total Inodes = 262144
This MFS volume may be expanded 3 more times
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't believe the part about being able to be expanded 3 more times, that's a left over from the S1 and S2 two drives on one PATA/IDE cable days.

But, yeah, that answers my curiosity about how big that last partition is and if there was any space left over at the end (which would have shown up as an Apple Free Partition)
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Alright,

Replaced all the capacitors and still have pausing and tiling. This is even happening on a movie I transferred just now to the Tivo from my server.

So tomorrow I'll transfer the rest of my shows to the server via kttmg and yank the external. If I still have issues I may just take the external out of the case and clone the existing and put it in the box.
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Alright,

Replaced all the capacitors and still have pausing and tiling. This is even happening on a movie I transferred just now to the Tivo from my server.

So tomorrow I'll transfer the rest of my shows to the server via kttmg and yank the external. If I still have issues I may just take the external out of the case and clone the existing and put it in the box.
I think its the external that's starting to fail. I had my external failed and things such as FFx1 which usually feels like 3x normal speed was simply 1x with sound muted. I had since replaced the internal 160gb with a 1tb and it has been running for close to 2 yrs now.

I'd say 9 out of 10 externals fail within a few yrs.
Mine was about 3 yrs old.
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It still would be good to check the voltages from the PS:
Red 5V, Yellow 12V, Orange 3.3V, Black Ground.
Beware of shock hazard.
Probe into back of connector where wires of all four colors plug into the main circuit board.
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I think its the external that's starting to fail. I had my external failed and things such as FFx1 which usually feels like 3x normal speed was simply 1x with sound muted.
No, that's actually a common problem on digital channels.. There are other threads that discuss it. Basically, it's almost certainly unrelated. (I would think if you were getting tons of I/O errors for example, it would either FF jerkily, or you'd have lots of dropouts.. not a consistent 1x-without-sound.)
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No, that's actually a common problem on digital channels.. There are other threads that discuss it. Basically, it's almost certainly unrelated. (I would think if you were getting tons of I/O errors for example, it would either FF jerkily, or you'd have lots of dropouts.. not a consistent 1x-without-sound.)
I haven't seen the problem again since my upgrade.
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I'll check the voltages just to be sure.

External wise, I'm removing that next so we will see what happens after that.


Another quick question, on the first page it says a TCD648250B can't use a 2tb internal fully. The below ebay auction indicates/leads you to believe you can.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-TiVo-HD-...item1c1ec83453

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Another quick question, on the first page it says a TCD648250B can't use a 2tb internal fully. The below ebay auction indicates/leads you to believe you can.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-TiVo-HD-...item1c1ec83453
At first, it was thought that the original Series 3 could not handle a 2TB drive as no one in the community was able to get one to work.
Then, vendors like Weaknees and DVR-Dude (e-bay) were able to figure it out and make them work. Once that happened, we knew it was possible but of course those guys weren't going to reveal their secret.

Until recently. IIRC, someone on this forum finally figured out how to make a 2TB hard drive work in a Series 3. I don't know which thread it is in, but I believe it involved a 2 copy process using a 1TB hard drive as a "middle man".
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:35 AM   #8993
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can someone recommend a 1TB or smaller drive they have used recently in a Tivo HD? My original WD 160GB died completely, and it's instant cake time I guess.
I have been reading about something called AF on newer drives, and with Frys and Microcenter being the places I can grab a drive from today. it would be good to know what drive someone has recently used successfully.

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At first, it was thought that the original Series 3 could not handle a 2TB drive as no one in the community was able to get one to work.
Then, vendors like Weaknees and DVR-Dude (e-bay) were able to figure it out and make them work. Once that happened, we knew it was possible but of course those guys weren't going to reveal their secret.

Until recently. IIRC, someone on this forum finally figured out how to make a 2TB hard drive work in a Series 3. I don't know which thread it is in, but I believe it involved a 2 copy process using a 1TB hard drive as a "middle man".
The middleman approach was what I used to be able to have a larger swap partition and still be able to use jmfs on an S3 HD, not an original S3 (OLED).

Supposedly jmfs doesn't work on the original S3.

It is suspected that the most recent software update for all the S3s is responsible for breaking the 1TB barrier.

I remember one of the S3 upgraders doing some manual partition editing

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but I think another just went with either WinMFS or MFS Live, and wound up with an MFS partition lots bigger than 1TB.

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can someone recommend a 1TB or smaller drive they have used recently in a Tivo HD? My original WD 160GB died completely, and it's instant cake time I guess.
I have been reading about something called AF on newer drives, and with Frys and Microcenter being the places I can grab a drive from today. it would be good to know what drive someone has recently used successfully.

thanks
No need for IC, I've got a link to an S3 HD image a few pages back--search my user name.

If we recommend a particular model number drive with which we've had success in the past, there's no guarantee anymore that what they're slapping that number on these days is actually the same drive.

I'm successfully using one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...85&Tpk=hd103sj

in an S2 (with a SATA/IDE adapter since it's a SATA drive and the S2s were still PATA/IDE), so I wouldn't hesitate to use it in an S3, although if it were a 5400RPM instead of 7200 I'd like it better because of less heat.

Of course I bought it a year or so ago before Seagate bought out Samsung, so you might want to make sure that the one in the store, if you find one, looks like the picture newegg is still using. If it's very much different, or if the Seagate name is prominent on it, I have no idea what to say about it good or bad.

I'm successfully using a WD20EADS in an S3 HD, but to get one of those now you'd have to get the boxed version

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...&s=electronics


AND get one that's been on the shelf for a year or two for it to have been when WD was putting that model drive in that model box.

If it actually says 32MB cache on the wrap-around sticker on the right-hand side, that increases the odds tremendously.

Otherwise it might be a 16MB cache WD20EACS or a 64MB cache WD20EARS (both of which will probably work), but if it's not new old stock, it could easily be a newer model than any of those 3, and I have no idea what would or wouldn't work, although it's starting to look like the new WD models that end in X don't work.

(Some "AF" drives seem to work and some don't)

Can you go online to Frys and Microcenter and see what model 1TB, 1.5TB and 2TB drives they actually have in stock and post those model numbers real quick?

Maybe we can spot something to recommend or warn against.

Also, take note of how long the warranty period is on each one.
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No need for IC, I've got a link to an S3 HD image a few pages back--search my user name.

If we recommend a particular model number drive with which we've had success in the past, there's no guarantee anymore that what they're slapping that number on these days is actually the same drive.

I'm successfully using one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...85&Tpk=hd103sj

in an S2 (with a SATA/IDE adapter since it's a SATA drive and the S2s were still PATA/IDE), so I wouldn't hesitate to use it in an S3, although if it were a 5400RPM instead of 7200 I'd like it better because of less heat.

Of course I bought it a year or so ago before Seagate bought out Samsung, so you might want to make sure that the one in the store, if you find one, looks like the picture newegg is still using. If it's very much different, or if the Seagate name is prominent on it, I have no idea what to say about it good or bad.

I'm successfully using a WD20EADS in an S3 HD, but to get one of those now you'd have to get the boxed version

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...&s=electronics


AND get one that's been on the shelf for a year or two for it to have been when WD was putting that model drive in that model box.

If it actually says 32MB cache on the wrap-around sticker on the right-hand side, that increases the odds tremendously.

Otherwise it might be a 16MB cache WD20EACS or a 64MB cache WD20EARS (both of which will probably work), but if it's not new old stock, it could easily be a newer model than any of those 3, and I have no idea what would or wouldn't work, although it's starting to look like the new WD models that end in X don't work.

(Some "AF" drives seem to work and some don't)

Can you go online to Frys and Microcenter and see what model 1TB, 1.5TB and 2TB drives they actually have in stock and post those model numbers real quick?

Maybe we can spot something to recommend or warn against.

Also, take note of how long the warranty period is on each one.
a selection: http://www.microcenter.com/search/se...ortby=pricelow
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Not much of a selection, especially in 2TB drives.

Out of what they offer, this is the one on which I'd roll the dice:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...S_-_Bare_Drive

People here have reported success with the 20EURS, so maybe that means the 10EURS is a safe bet as well.

But what about Frys?

What have they got?
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I remember one of the S3 upgraders doing some manual partition editing

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Thanks. That's the one I remember seeing. He had an already upgraded 1TB hard drive that he copied to a 2TB using a 3rd party app to manipulate the partitions.

My point was that it is now possible for a user to upgrade his original S3 to 2TB without having to buy one preconfigured from Weaknees or DVR-Dude.

The process might not be ideal (upgrade original hard drive to 1TB, then use the process linked above to get to 2TB) but if it works, that takes the power away from Weaknees/DVR-Dude.
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Thanks. That's the one I remember seeing. He had an already upgraded 1TB hard drive that he copied to a 2TB using a 3rd party app to manipulate the partitions.

My point was that it is now possible for a user to upgrade his original S3 to 2TB without having to buy one preconfigured from Weaknees or DVR-Dude.

The process might not be ideal (upgrade original hard drive to 1TB, then use the process linked above to get to 2TB) but if it works, that takes the power away from Weaknees/DVR-Dude.
They still have the power of being convenient, and providing a service for those with more money than time.


Actually, it looks like haidawei went the long way round but essentially got a truncated backup with the latest version of the TiVo OS for that model and restored it straight to a 2TB

(which gave him the same result as using

dd

or one of it's descendents, like

dd_rescue

to copy the original 250GB drive (with 14 partitions) to the 2TB),

and then just used WinMFS to expand into the rest of the space, no special tricks like hand-editing partitions needed.

So the magic must be in the most recent version of the TiVo OS for the Series 3s.

Which probably means you don't need jmfs for the S3 HD or HD XL anymore, either.

Although you still have to have it for S4s.
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If I replace the drive with a 2tb from Ebay/Weaknees, does that require me to do something with the cable company/CableCard?

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