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Old 01-26-2012, 12:12 AM   #8461
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Another ?

Can i just unplug my sata hard drive from my pc and re-plug that into my tivo hard drive as the source after i take the hard drive out of my tivo... ?

And then plug in my new sata hard drive into my other sata terminal thats on the motherboard as the destination drive and then put the ISO in cd
or
do i have to purchase a PCI SATA to hook up my drives....

Again, thanks all!!
Okay, how many SATA ports total do you have on your motherboard?

Does the hard drive with Windows on it use one of them, and is that the one you're talking about unplugging?

Is your cd or dvd drive hooked to one of the SATA ports on the motherboard?

Do you have the original drive out of the TiVo?

Do you already have the (larger) drive you intend to put in the TiVo in its place?

If so, what size, brand, and model number?

Do you have any other spare hard drives that could be used temporarily?

If so, what size?

Work with me and we'll get you upgraded fairly painlessly.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:51 AM   #8462
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>>Okay, how many SATA ports total do you have on your motherboard?<<
4

>>Does the hard drive with Windows on it use one of them, and is that the one you're talking about unplugging?<<
Yes

>>Is your cd or dvd drive hooked to one of the SATA ports on the motherboard?<<
yes

>>Do you have the original drive out of the TiVo?<<
not yet but going to take out in few hours

>>Do you already have the (larger) drive you intend to put in the TiVo in its place?<<
Yes

>>If so, what size, brand, and model number?<<
wd caviar green sata 1 tb wdbaay0010hnic-nrsn


>>Do you have any other spare hard drives that could be used temporarily?<<
no
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Please excuse this post this is my 4th post so i cab put in a link
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:06 PM   #8465
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done works great!! thanks all!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:07 PM   #8466
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Yesterday, I upgraded from a 1TB drive in my TivoHD to a 2TB simply because the 1TB drive I originally upgraded to was way too noisy. After using JMFS to do the copy and expand, the TiVo booted and gave me the missing external storage screen. Using all 2TB wasn't really my primary concern, so I let it do it's thing and it finally booted with only 1TB used.

Today, I decided to poke around and see what happened. As has been documented elsewhere, if you previously used MFS Live to expand from the original 160GB to a larger drive, it tends to leave a little extra space at the end of the drive. That extra space ends up being the 16th partition and has a partition type of Apple_Free. When JMFS does its expansion, it adds a 17th partition which is what seems to cause the missing external storage screen.

So, I'm out of luck, right? Not so fast.

NOTE: The rest of this is fairly complicated and assumes you are comfortable editing the partition table in a hex editor. The summary is that I was able to manually modify the partition table to remove the Apple_Free partition and then expand the drive using JMFS.

I have experience working with Apple partition maps (APM) from a prior job. From that experience, I know that APM creates partitions for things that most other partition maps do not including the partition map itself and free space. The Apple_Free that is being added by MFS Live is perfectly normal for APM and is just how APM indicates that some parts of the drive are unallocated.

Why does this cause problems with JMFS? JMFS has its own custom code to read/modify APM which doesn't understand Apple_Free. This is really the core of the problem. It only knows how to add a new partition by using space not currently accounted for in the APM (the common case when the original drive is completely full like an original Tivo drive). I looked at modifying this code but it looked like it would take a lot of work to handle Apple_Free correctly. That and I couldn't figure out how to actually get the .jar I built into a Linux install that I could boot natively (I use a Mac and didn't want to install a Linux distro just for this).

Well, partition tables are just bytes and the format for APM is fairly well documented. I just needed to modify the partition table manually to remove the Apple_Free partititon.

I used JMFS to do a new copy from the 1TB MFS Live-expanded drive to the 2TB drive but did not do an expand. Then, I booted into OS X and read the boot sector and APM into a file so I would have a backup and could modify things more easily:

Code:
# Read the boot sector and APM  from the Tivo drive into a file
dd if=/dev/disk0 of=original-apm bs=512 count=64
I opened original-apm in a hex editor (I used Hex Fiend). The first 512 bytes (1 sector) are the boot sector and bytes 512-32768 (sectors 1-63) are the APM. Each APM partition is 512 bytes (1 sector) long and starts with 0x504D as the first two bytes. Here is the 1st partition from my drive:

Code:
50 4D 00 00 00 00 00 0F 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3F 41 70 70 6C 65 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 41 70 70 6C 65 5F 70 61 72 74 69 74 69 6F 6E 5F
6D 61 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3F 00 00 00 33 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Bytes 4-8 of each partition is the number of partition entries in the APM in big-endian. Since I have 16 partitions originally, this is 0x00000010. Changing this to 0x0000000F in each partition causes the 16th partition to be removed from the table. This [bold]must[/bold] be done for each partition for it to work. Save the modified file as modified-apm and then write it back to the disk:

Code:
# Write the modified boot sector and APM to the 2TB drive
dd if=modified-apm of=/dev/disk0 bs=512 count=64
Now, boot the JMFS live CD and expand the drive. It will create a new MFS partition that is the 16th partition. Put the drive in the TiVo and verify that you get 288 hours of HD (mine actually claims 287 hours but I'm not bothered by the missing hour).

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Old 01-26-2012, 07:20 PM   #8467
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>>If so, what size, brand, and model number?<<
wd caviar green sata 1 tb wdbaay0010hnic-nrsn

...
What's the model number on the sticker on the top of the drive?

Should be something like WD10EACS or WD10EADS or WD10EARS.

Good find on that video, by the way.

I'm assuming your post of about an hour ago means you've upgraded successfully.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:55 PM   #8468
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I'm looking at buying a replacement drive for my series 3 HD TONIGHT. LOCALLY. It appears I can get a WD10EALX or a ST31000524AS. Any reason to avoid either of these?
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Will the WD WDBACS0010HBK-NEVZ model work with the Tivo HD or premiere? Or just the WDBABT0010HBK-NESN ?
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:40 PM   #8470
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Will the WD WDBACS0010HBK-NEVZ model work with the Tivo HD or premiere? Or just the WDBABT0010HBK-NESN ?
It looks like the WDBABT0010HBK-NESN works with TiVos and the WD WDBACS0010HBK-NEVZ is for some Verizon FIOS DVR, but you can always go to the TiVo web site and see if they're specific about the model number, and if not, click on support, then on live chat, and paste both numbers into the box and try to pin them down to a definitive answer.
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Old 02-05-2012, 09:34 PM   #8471
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Nice post. I am surprised there have been no comments. Will keep this in mind if I replace 1 of my three 1 TB drives.

You may want to tell us which 2 TB drive you used.

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Yesterday, I upgraded from a 1TB drive in my TivoHD to a 2TB simply because the 1TB drive I originally upgraded to was way too noisy. After using JMFS to do the copy and expand, the TiVo booted and gave me the missing external storage screen. Using all 2TB wasn't really my primary concern, so I let it do it's thing and it finally booted with only 1TB used.

Today, I decided to poke around and see what happened. As has been documented elsewhere, if you previously used MFS Live to expand from the original 160GB to a larger drive, it tends to leave a little extra space at the end of the drive. That extra space ends up being the 16th partition and has a partition type of Apple_Free. When JMFS does its expansion, it adds a 17th partition which is what seems to cause the missing external storage screen.

So, I'm out of luck, right? Not so fast.

NOTE: The rest of this is fairly complicated and assumes you are comfortable editing the partition table in a hex editor. The summary is that I was able to manually modify the partition table to remove the Apple_Free partition and then expand the drive using JMFS.

I have experience working with Apple partition maps (APM) from a prior job. From that experience, I know that APM creates partitions for things that most other partition maps do not including the partition map itself and free space. The Apple_Free that is being added by MFS Live is perfectly normal for APM and is just how APM indicates that some parts of the drive are unallocated.

Why does this cause problems with JMFS? JMFS has its own custom code to read/modify APM which doesn't understand Apple_Free. This is really the core of the problem. It only knows how to add a new partition by using space not currently accounted for in the APM (the common case when the original drive is completely full like an original Tivo drive). I looked at modifying this code but it looked like it would take a lot of work to handle Apple_Free correctly. That and I couldn't figure out how to actually get the .jar I built into a Linux install that I could boot natively (I use a Mac and didn't want to install a Linux distro just for this).

Well, partition tables are just bytes and the format for APM is fairly well documented. I just needed to modify the partition table manually to remove the Apple_Free partititon.

I used JMFS to do a new copy from the 1TB MFS Live-expanded drive to the 2TB drive but did not do an expand. Then, I booted into OS X and read the boot sector and APM into a file so I would have a backup and could modify things more easily:

Code:
# Read the boot sector and APM  from the Tivo drive into a file
dd if=/dev/disk0 of=original-apm bs=512 count=64
I opened original-apm in a hex editor (I used Hex Fiend). The first 512 bytes (1 sector) are the boot sector and bytes 512-32768 (sectors 1-63) are the APM. Each APM partition is 512 bytes (1 sector) long and starts with 0x504D as the first two bytes. Here is the 1st partition from my drive:

Code:
50 4D 00 00 00 00 00 0F 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 3F 41 70 70 6C 65 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 41 70 70 6C 65 5F 70 61 72 74 69 74 69 6F 6E 5F
6D 61 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3F 00 00 00 33 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Bytes 4-8 of each partition is the number of partition entries in the APM in big-endian. Since I have 16 partitions originally, this is 0x00000010. Changing this to 0x0000000F in each partition causes the 16th partition to be removed from the table. This [bold]must[/bold] be done for each partition for it to work. Save the modified file as modified-apm and then write it back to the disk:

Code:
# Write the modified boot sector and APM to the 2TB drive
dd if=modified-apm of=/dev/disk0 bs=512 count=64
Now, boot the JMFS live CD and expand the drive. It will create a new MFS partition that is the 16th partition. Put the drive in the TiVo and verify that you get 288 hours of HD (mine actually claims 287 hours but I'm not bothered by the missing hour).

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It looks like the WDBABT0010HBK-NESN works with TiVos and the WD WDBACS0010HBK-NEVZ is for some Verizon FIOS DVR, but you can always go to the TiVo web site and see if they're specifice about the model number, and if not, click on support, then on live chat, and paste both numbers into the box and try to pin them down to a definitive answer.
Tivo support indicates it will not work. Too bad.
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I think I need a new drive in my THD, it's starting to stutter on live TV streams and recorded shows. Is this a decent drive? HDS721075DLE630

I tried searching the thread for that model but it didn't return anything, and 283 pages is quite a lot to read through.
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I think I need a new drive in my THD, it's starting to stutter on live TV streams and recorded shows. Is this a decent drive? HDS721075DLE630

I tried searching the thread for that model but it didn't return anything, and 283 pages is quite a lot to read through.

You need to get the WD diagnostic software (I assume you're talking about the original 160GB WD drive in that HD) and test the drive you have now to be sure that it and not something else (like maybe an ailing power supply) is the problem.

You can download an .iso image and burn a bootable cd with it on it.


As to your original question:


It's 6Gb/s and (unnecessarily, since it's only 750GB) "advanced format", so it's probably newer than most of the posts in this thread.


Go look at the newegg listing

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145532

and click on the feedback tab. Not all that encouraging.

I'd be more inclined to go with this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...8&Tpk=wd10eads

or this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136490


I think I'll go start a separate thread to see if my suspicion of Hitachi quality these days is justified or not.
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Thanks for the advice. It's not the stock 160 drive, that one went bye-bye long ago. This drive that's currently in there is just something old I had laying around, so I figured I should pull it before it goes totally south so I can get my season passes off of it and my recordings etc with WinMFS.

I'll check the other two links, thanks again.
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Thanks for the advice. It's not the stock 160 drive, that one went bye-bye long ago. This drive that's currently in there is just something old I had laying around, so I figured I should pull it before it goes totally south so I can get my season passes off of it and my recordings etc with WinMFS.

I'll check the other two links, thanks again.
Then pull it and see what brand it is and get that manufacturer's diagnostic software.

While you have the box open, read this post

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...77#post8937777

and then give your power supply a close visual inspection.

Your problem may not be the drive.
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Very interesting information, thank you very much. So let's play a little math game...I don't have a lifetime sub on my machine. Considering I *may* have to replace the HD and/or the power supply...and considering the price of HD's these days (though the ones you suggested are quite reasonable IMO), what point do I stop dumping money into this thing and go pick up a new one?
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Very interesting information, thank you very much. So let's play a little math game...I don't have a lifetime sub on my machine. Considering I *may* have to replace the HD and/or the power supply...and considering the price of HD's these days (though the ones you suggested are quite reasonable IMO), what point do I stop dumping money into this thing and go pick up a new one?
The ones I suggested are double what they were going for a few months ago, before the Thailand flooding, so reasonable is a relative term (although paying double for a hard drive beats having your home, everything you own, and half of your family washed away).

The time to worry about the cost/benefit analysis, to me, is after you nail down what the problem is and before you spend any money fixing it.

So let's find out if your drive is good or bad and let's find out if the power supply is good or bad and then decide our next move.

If it's the power supply, that's about $10 or less in parts and you need to be able to do simple soldering.


If you've had that TiVo for around 3 years, you should go read the $99 lifetime threads.
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The ones I suggested are double what they were going for a few months ago, before the Thailand flooding, so reasonable is a relative term (although paying double for a hard drive beats having your home, everything you own, and half of your family washed away).

The time to worry about the cost/benefit analysis, to me, is after you nail down what the problem is and before you spend any money fixing it.

So let's find out if your drive is good or bad and let's find out if the power supply is good or bad and then decide our next move.

If it's the power supply, that's about $10 or less in parts and you need to be able to do simple soldering.


If you've had that TiVo for around 3 years, you should go read the $99 lifetime threads.
Well now that you put it that way, it's going to take a lot bigger failure to justify the Elite (4 tuners sure would be nice though) at 499 plus subscription. I think I have had the THD going on 5 years soon...so it's seen a lot of usage. I also have a S3 that still works like a champ that I'm paying yearly for as well. Only thing I don't know how to do is solder, but I can probably figure that out or get a buddy to help me out.
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Well now that you put it that way, it's going to take a lot bigger failure to justify the Elite (4 tuners sure would be nice though) at 499 plus subscription. I think I have had the THD going on 5 years soon...so it's seen a lot of usage. I also have a S3 that still works like a champ that I'm paying yearly for as well. Only thing I don't know how to do is solder, but I can probably figure that out or get a buddy to help me out.
You really need to read the posts about $99 lifetime.

You might be able to threaten to cancel the units you have and get it on each.

You may or may not have to get some sort of S4 to get that offer, but the increased resale value of those other two units once lifetimed would probably cover the cost.
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...capacitor go boom. Well...not really, it's bulging...2 of them.

Now for the completely irrational but compulsive UMF....off to get a premier eliete. I mean, it'll save me 3 dollars a month in cable card rental fees after all. HAHA.

And, I will fix the THD and sell it to offset the cost.

Thanks Unitron for the a) great information and b) great conversation points.
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And you do have a point on the increased value...I'll check my options when I get back from the store shortly.
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...capacitor go boom. Well...not really, it's bulging...2 of them.

Now for the completely irrational but compulsive UMF....off to get a premier eliete. I mean, it'll save me 3 dollars a month in cable card rental fees after all. HAHA.

And, I will fix the THD and sell it to offset the cost.

Thanks Unitron for the a) great information and b) great conversation points.
Open up that S3 and look at the power supply in it as well so you only have to mail order caps once.
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...capacitor go boom. Well...not really, it's bulging...2 of them.
This is sadly typical for consumer electronics these days. The capacitor problem goes back to 1996. And yet it continues.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:58 AM   #8485
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Can I replace my Series 3 1TB with a 2TB?

Hey guys, I've been reading this thread for days and I hoping you can clear up a few things before I order my drive.

I have a Series 3 (TCD648250B) with a Western Digital 1TB installed.
The HD is beginning to fail, and I want to swap it out and keep my recordings.

I was going to swap it out and transfer the recordings to a Western Digital WD10EARX. The newer of the WD green series. But, I've see that it can actually take a larger drive.

From what I read, I thought 1TB was the max for internal HD in a S3. But, I've seen Series 3 (TCD648250B) on eBay and weeknees with 2TB HD.

So, can I put in a Western Digital 2TB WD20EARX into my Series 3? If so, would I use jmfs or mfs live? Please help me out as I'm puzzled.

Thanks guys!
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I don't know about putting a 2tb in a S3 but you would use either mfs live or winmfs.
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Hey guys, I've been reading this thread for days and I hoping you can clear up a few things before I order my drive.

I have a Series 3 (TCD648250B) with a Western Digital 1TB installed.
The HD is beginning to fail, and I want to swap it out and keep my recordings.

I was going to swap it out and transfer the recordings to a Western Digital WD10EARX. The newer of the WD green series. But, I've see that it can actually take a larger drive.

From what I read, I thought 1TB was the max for internal HD in a S3. But, I've seen Series 3 (TCD648250B) on eBay and weeknees with 2TB HD.

So, can I put in a Western Digital 2TB WD20EARX into my Series 3? If so, would I use jmfs or mfs live? Please help me out as I'm puzzled.

Thanks guys!


You cannot use a drive bigger than approx 1.1GB + 250GB, the equivalent of the original drive and an approved external.

And neither can I.

Because we don't know how.

Others who do know more than either of us have figured out a way to use drives larger than that.

Since they'd rather use that knowledge to make money selling ready to go drives than share the knowledge with everyone and not make any money at it, chances are we will continue not to know how.


Money being a very nice and handy thing to have, I can't say as I blame them.
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Hey guys, I've been reading this thread for days and I hoping you can clear up a few things before I order my drive.

I have a Series 3 (TCD648250B) with a Western Digital 1TB installed.
The HD is beginning to fail, and I want to swap it out and keep my recordings.

I was going to swap it out and transfer the recordings to a Western Digital WD10EARX. The newer of the WD green series. But, I've see that it can actually take a larger drive.

From what I read, I thought 1TB was the max for internal HD in a S3. But, I've seen Series 3 (TCD648250B) on eBay and weeknees with 2TB HD.

So, can I put in a Western Digital 2TB WD20EARX into my Series 3? If so, would I use jmfs or mfs live? Please help me out as I'm puzzled.

Thanks guys!
Let me add that you may be able to use that 2TB drive in a 648, but not be able to use all 2TB of it.
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You cannot use a drive bigger than approx 1.1GB + 250GB, the equivalent of the original drive and an approved external.

And neither can I.

Because we don't know how.

Others who do know more than either of us have figured out a way to use drives larger than that.

Since they'd rather use that knowledge to make money selling ready to go drives than share the knowledge with everyone and not make any money at it, chances are we will continue not to know how.


Money being a very nice and handy thing to have, I can't say as I blame them.
I agree with you, money is awesome to have. Additional HD space is a very nice and handy to have.

Since I'm short on both, I'm just glad the advice is free!
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I agree with you, money is awesome to have. Additional HD space is a very nice and handy to have.

Since I'm short on both, I'm just glad the advice is free!

Mine is, and it's guaranteed to be worth what you paid for it.
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