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Old 10-16-2007, 10:31 AM   #1
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9.2 has arrived...

I've noticed that the navigational issues seem to have been fixed. I didn't have the other problems that folks were experiencing, so I can't tell you what else is fixed.

There is another thread already going about eSATA being official now...
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:35 AM   #2
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Wha? 2nd Cablecard issue? anyone?
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Old 10-16-2007, 10:44 AM   #3
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Wha? 2nd Cablecard issue? anyone?
I have moto cards and 9.1 didn't trouble them.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:01 AM   #4
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Oooh... 9.2? I wonder what bugs they fixed... and which they added.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:05 AM   #5
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here we go again...
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:06 AM   #6
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I've noticed that the navigational issues seem to have been fixed.
Could you elaborate? There are so many minor, little gotchas in 9.1 that I'm not sure exactly what you refer to as "navigational issues".

Thanks!
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:09 AM   #7
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Could you elaborate? There are so many minor, little gotchas in 9.1 that I'm not sure exactly what you refer to as "navigational issues".

Thanks!
Menu navigation... popping out to the wrong location when navigating and altering the To Do List, Suggestions Folder, etc. All of that seems to be functioning properly now.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:11 AM   #8
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Oooh... 9.2? I wonder what bugs they fixed... and which they added.
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here we go again...
I'll beat one of my favorite dead horses again. Why oh why doesn't TiVo tell us what is in a release? Instead of hundreds of posts from us blind users about what may or may not be different, just tell us. They can always put gazillions of disclaimers on the What's New page so as to prevent liability for those changes.

If they really had a What's New page, and even had a list of bugs discovered as time goes by, wouldn't we be MORE inclined to have patience with them, rather than the rants & raves that always surface?

prolly never happen, but it's still my .02
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:12 AM   #9
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Menu navigation... popping out to the wrong location when navigating and altering the To Do List, Suggestions Folder, etc. All of that seems to be functioning properly now.
Thanks! I was hoping that would be a simple, slipstream bug-fixin' release, and it looks like it is!
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:16 AM   #10
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I'll beat one of my favorite dead horses again. Why oh why doesn't TiVo tell us what is in a release?
I agree with you 100%, but the last time I said this in TCF I got flamed to a crisp for daring to suggest a company should be forthright with its customers.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:19 AM   #11
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I agree with you 100%, but the last time I said this in TCF I got flamed to a crisp for daring to suggest a company should be forthright with its customers.
I've been here a WHILE and I agree with you 100%. TiVo's communication has gotten worse and worse over the years. A little forum post is all it would take "Fixes are coming soon." "Here's what's been fixed in 9.2:" etc etc.

I'm in software development and our customers DEMAND those sorts of things before they upgrade. Even our POTENTIAL customers have demanded to see things like average bug resolution time, etc.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:32 AM   #12
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I've been here a WHILE and I agree with you 100%. TiVo's communication has gotten worse and worse over the years. A little forum post is all it would take "Fixes are coming soon." "Here's what's been fixed in 9.2:" etc etc.

I'm in software development and our customers DEMAND those sorts of things before they upgrade. Even our POTENTIAL customers have demanded to see things like average bug resolution time, etc.
It is quite interesting that when they first launched the TiVo HD that TiVoPony chimed in on the forum and told is that the fix was on the way for both 8.1.7 b and c, but once 9.1 dropped he hasnt bothered to tell anyone anything about impending updates or fixes. I agree they are starting to drop the ball, probably since they are using all manpower to handle the problems and trying to fix them
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:37 AM   #13
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Well, in general marketing people (which TivoPony is) are much happier about touting new feature updates than bugfixes.
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Old 10-16-2007, 11:41 AM   #14
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Why oh why doesn't TiVo tell us what is in a release?
The last time I saw them comment on this, it was some nonsense about competitive disadvantage... even though the info couldn't possibly be of use to any competitors.

Unfortunately, with corporations in general, the default policy on everything seems to be secrecy. Though that's not usually the case with release notes for software... but I guess that Tivo, oddly, doesn't see itself as being in the software business.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:09 PM   #15
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I'll beat one of my favorite dead horses again....

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Old 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM   #16
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Well, in general marketing people (which TivoPony is) are much happier about touting new feature updates than bugfixes.
Which is odd when you think about it, because most users are happier about bug fixes.
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:37 PM   #17
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Which is odd when you think about it, because most users are happier about bug fixes.
Yes, but by that point they already have your money
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:44 PM   #18
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:48 PM   #19
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Is this official?
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:52 PM   #20
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OK, before the thread gets completely hijacked, what's the word on the eSATA support? Is it for any eSATA disk? What's the maximum size? etc. etc. Pony, inquiring minds want to know! I desperately need more storage.

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Old 10-16-2007, 01:10 PM   #21
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I wonder how well the 9.0 version performed.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:12 PM   #22
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watch amazon movies and tv as it downloads and official esata support, thats whats been added.
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:23 PM   #23
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watch amazon movies and tv as it downloads and official esata support, thats whats been added.
riddick21: I assume that you got the update yourself? If so, can you please take the time to answer the questions that Globular mentioned, if you can?

In other words, did it just say "ESATA has now been enabled," or did it give instructions and information about where to get (and what) drives?
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:31 PM   #24
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watch amazon movies and tv as it downloads
That is a big improvement to me!

Now they just need to get the Unbox content in widescreen, and HD...
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:50 PM   #25
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Does anyone know if the "Video Lag On 30 Second Skip and Instant Replay" has been addressed? That would really make my day (and most of my evenings watching TV!).
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Old 10-16-2007, 01:54 PM   #26
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...and is this a typical TiVo test (pre)release, or is it generally available? Is there a priority list? etc.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:01 PM   #27
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30 second skip seems to be snappy again.

The exact wording on the eSATA message is:

"This update includes official TiVo support for expandable storage solutions from TiVo partners. Adding more recording time to your DVR is as simple as plugging in a verified eSATA drive. Please visit www.tivo.com/expand for more information."

The refered to URL is not active yet. I have no idea what "verified eSATA" drive means or what that means for folk already using the backdoor.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:08 PM   #28
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I have gotten the update. My S3 is still happy with my 500G Seagate drive. Reference to this drive now shows under system information.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:13 PM   #29
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30 second skip seems to be snappy again.

That's good. Now where's the sign-up page so we can opt-out of all future TiVo updates?

Sometimes I envy S1 owners.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:13 PM   #30
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cablecard issue fixed
menu bug fixed
esata expansion officially added
30 sec skip fixed

Thank you Tivo! My faith has been restored!
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