New TiVO Coming?

hybucket · 07-13-2007, 02:10 PM

Swanni at TV Predictions says to expect a HD TiVO, probably within the next three months, for $299. The link is here, if this works...
http://www.tvpredictions.com/askswanni071207.htm

HDTiVo · 07-13-2007, 02:12 PM

He must read gizmodo, the blogs and this forum.

Mike Lang · 07-13-2007, 02:30 PM

I have all the info you guys need, I'm just not allowed to actually tell you any of it.

Kablemodem · 07-13-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lang

I have all the info you guys need, I'm just not allowed to actually tell you any of it.

Just type it and you don't have to tell us anything.

sandenurse · 07-13-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lang

I have all the info you guys need, I'm just not allowed to actually tell you any of it.

OK, we'll be nice. Just tell us WHEN we will KNOW the specifics. Some of us have to talk with Santa.

Mike Lang · 07-13-2007, 03:54 PM

It'll be old news by the time Santa rolls around.

ncbagwell · 07-13-2007, 04:47 PM

Mike - hearing anything on MRV/TTG/TTCB for the Series 3?

ADG · 07-13-2007, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lang

I have all the info you guys need, I'm just not allowed to actually tell you any of it.

Other than ego, why would you even bother to post something like that? If you have nothing to say, why not do just that?

Kablemodem · 07-13-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ADG

Other than ego, why would you even bother to post something like that? If you have nothing to say, why not do just that?

I think he said a lot.

Mike Lang · 07-13-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ADG

Other than ego, why would you even bother to post something like that? If you have nothing to say, why not do just that?

Just to see who would whine first.

bidger · 07-13-2007, 05:27 PM

So, you recant?

jlib · 07-13-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Lang

I have all the info you guys need, I'm just not allowed to actually tell you any of it.

That's OK, just create a new account with a new alias and blab to your heart's content.

steve614 · 07-13-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ncbagwell

Mike - hearing anything on MRV/TTG/TTCB for the Series 3?

So far, bad news...

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Originally Posted by ADG

If you have nothing to say, why not do just that?

wolflord11 · 07-13-2007, 08:53 PM

Maybe they will be offering a Series 3 for $299.99

BUT: Instead of paying $12.99 a Month for a 3 Year Commitment, they will charge $32.99 a Month.

As for MRV/TTG/TTCB, we have already been told its coming some time be it in 2008, 2009 or somewhere around there

bidger · 07-13-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wolflord11

Maybe they will be offering a Series 3 for $299.99

BUT: Instead of paying $12.99 a Month for a 3 Year Commitment, they will charge $32.99 a Month.

Let me be the first to say, f*$% that.

How about this, drop all the hoopla crap and just let me record live TV in HD (include ATSC because I'm not going back to cable) to view when I want. No TTG/MRV/TiVoCast/Live365/etc., sh*t I really had no use for when I had a standalone, and let me do it for $79.95 per year or less. Maybe then I'll be interested.

davezatz · 07-13-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTiVo

He must read gizmodo, the blogs and this forum.

Yup.

HDTiVo · 07-13-2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by davezatz

Yup.

Where's my beer????????

GoHokies! · 07-14-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jlib

That's OK, just create a new account with a new alias and blab to your heart's content.

Because a moderator breaking the rules (one login per person) would be right up there with hinting at (what one would think is, or at least should be if this is true) NDA protected information.

jrm01 · 07-14-2007, 02:11 PM

A major CE retailer was just notified that the new Tivo-lite will be in the store the week of August 5-12. It is currently named "Fusion", but will likely just be called Tivo HD. The specs on it are:

price: $299
source: Digital cable, digital antenna
NO THX certification
Dual tuner
Storage: 20 hrs HD, 180 hrs. SD
No front panel display
Standard remote

Support for SP, WL, KidZone, Online scheduling, Digital music player, Digital photo viewer, Home Movie sharing, Amazon Unbox, Univ Swivel Search

Both the S3 and Lite will have TTG and MRV PRIOR TO THE END OF 2007.

Based on this it seems the cost savings are:

1/2 the storage
No THX
Digital-only tuners
No front panel display
Standard remote (I assume this means the peanut)

Arcady · 07-14-2007, 02:20 PM

So I won't be able to tune any of the analog cable channels? (Most of my SD cable channels are non-digital.) If I can't record the Sci Fi Channel or other basic programming, it's fairly worthless to me.

I don't care about THX or the silly display on the front. And I can install a larger hard drive any time I like, so they could sell it with a 10gb drive for all I care.

MickeS · 07-14-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jrm01

Based on this it seems the cost savings are:

1/2 the storage
No THX
Digital-only tuners
No front panel display
Standard remote (I assume this means the peanut)

I'm sorry, but... WTF? No analog tuner? That doesn't make any sense. It can't be right.

cgould · 07-14-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jrm01

A major CE retailer was just notified that the new Tivo-lite will be in the store the week of August 5-12. It is currently named "Fusion", but will likely just be called Tivo HD. The specs on it are:

price: $299
source: Digital cable, digital antenna
NO THX certification
Dual tuner
Storage: 20 hrs HD, 180 hrs. SD
No front panel display
Standard remote

Support for SP, WL, KidZone, Online scheduling, Digital music player, Digital photo viewer, Home Movie sharing, Amazon Unbox, Univ Swivel Search

Both the S3 and Lite will have TTG and MRV PRIOR TO THE END OF 2007.

Based on this it seems the cost savings are:

1/2 the storage
No THX
Digital-only tuners
No front panel display
Standard remote (I assume this means the peanut)

What's the benefit if the HDD is the same size as Motorola 6412 Comcast DVR, when by then the Moto box will run Tivo software also? (and can record analog cable channels, and handle SDV/PPV/VOD)?
OK, it does the network stuff, but... this seems to be kind of cross-marketing...?

90% of the benefit of S3 over the Moto box is the bigger HDD and stable interface. Kind of hard to justify $300 price over a free Comcast DVR...
I'm all for cheaper & more Tivo boxes, just seems a bit strange planning...

but the TTG/MRV news if true is very welcome indeed (and that WOULD make a big difference to getting a real Tivo Lite box vs Comcast box.)

jrm01 · 07-14-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeS

I'm sorry, but... WTF? No analog tuner? That doesn't make any sense. It can't be right.

I agree. That is the way it was presented, but I'm hoping that it was done in error. I know it would save money (not much), but it's hard to believe they would cut this.

DTG · 07-14-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jrm01

Based on this it seems the cost savings are:

1/2 the storage
No THX
Digital-only tuners
No front panel display
Standard remote (I assume this means the peanut)I'm sorry, but... .

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Originally Posted by MickeS

WTF? No analog tuner? That doesn't make any sense. It can't be right.

I currently have Comcrap Extended Basic, and get every channel in digital except one very obscure PBS channel in analog. This did not increase my payment of about $40 per month, but is only available through a Cable card. And the quality is better than analog.

Since Comcrap wants to delete the analog channels, and probably will by 2010, this decision would eliminate one of 100 channels.

jmpage2 · 07-14-2007, 08:12 PM

Will it have an eSATA port on it for external storage expansion? The version on Gizmodo gave some indication that this "S3 Lite" might have Cable Card 2.0 support also.

HDTiVo · 07-14-2007, 09:14 PM

Nice to see TiVo will be shipping the DVR I said 17 months ago they should make at the price I said 12 months ago they should charge.

More Signs of Lite

Kablemodem · 07-14-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HDTiVo

Nice to see TiVo will be shipping the DVR I said 17 months ago they should make at the price I said 12 months ago they should charge.

More Signs of Lite

I wouldn't give that blog much credibility since the author labels the S3 a fiasco, which couldn't be further from the truth.

jmpage2 · 07-15-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kablemodem

I wouldn't give that blog much credibility since the author labels the S3 a fiasco, which couldn't be further from the truth.

From a financial perspective it probably is a disaster. Weak sales of the S3 certainly haven't helped Tivo.

Justin Thyme · 07-15-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeS

I'm sorry, but... WTF? No analog tuner? That doesn't make any sense. It can't be right.

I agree- As many of us here know- a very large percentage of channels in the "Digital" tier are actually delivered in Analog. About 85% of the channels I record are analog.

So I think someone's imagination has gone off the deep end. They are guessing that analog is not necessary after the OTA shutoff. Not so- it is nearly 50% of the cable sub market. Total Analog.

If you want to watch analog on a big screen, the best idea is to either get an Algolith flea upscaler for $995 or get an S3, because the cable boxes just don't do the job.

jfh3 · 07-15-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hybucket

Swanni at TV Predictions says to expect a HD TiVO, probably within the next three months, for $299.

I'm amazed that anyone still bothers to read "news" from Swanni, one of the most clueless and pompous industry wannabe's out there.

Surprised that the hard drive is going to be smaller than 250GB - you would think Tivo would want larger capacity than the standard MSO DVR as a selling point, assuming they ever do a "Tivo to cable" comparasion chart.