Powering down S3??

[MrTangent]

I will probably feel very stupid and already do to an extent since I consider myself extremely technically inclined... with that said, I'm exasperated in trying to power down my Series 3 TiVo. I know there's a stand-by mode, but I need to safely power it down while I unplug it and I cannot get the TiVo remote, or front panel to do so.

Is there a way to shut it down completely?

I couldn't find an answer in the manual, by searching google, reading FAQ's. Argh. I hate to just yank the power cable but if I'm forced to...

Thanks in advance for this obviously easy question.

[MickeS]

No way to power it down manually other than by pulling the cord.

The file system is designed to allow powering down that way, so don't worry.
If you want to, I guess you can go into the "restart" menu and pull the cord just as it turns itself off during the restart. But it's not necessary.

[MrTangent]

Originally Posted by MickeS

No way to power it down manually other than by pulling the cord.

The file system is designed to allow powering down that way, so don't worry.
If you want to, I guess you can go into the "restart" menu and pull the cord just as it turns itself off during the restart. But it's not necessary.

Thanks for the reply/answer. I can't believe TiVo didn't put a regular ole power button on the remote (besides the one for the TV) and on the front panel??

I understand their reasoning... if people power them down they won't be able to record their shows and/or might not turn it back on. They want the user to actively use the TiVo but not having a power down feature really confuses people (i.e. me). And then not mentioning it in the manual at all... I really hope their file system is journaled, given that people will be pulling plugs to move the unit. This is really a major (imo) oversight on an otherwise stellar platform.

[Mike Lang]

Originally Posted by MrTangent

Thanks for the reply/answer. I can't believe TiVo didn't put a regular ole power button on the remote (besides the one for the TV) and on the front panel??

I understand their reasoning... if people power them down they won't be able to record their shows and/or might not turn it back on. They want the user to actively use the TiVo but not having a power down feature really confuses people (i.e. me). And then not mentioning it in the manual at all... I really hope their file system is journaled, given that people will be pulling plugs to move the unit. This is really a major (imo) oversight on an otherwise stellar platform.

The system has been working well for every TiVo since 1999.

[MickeS]

Originally Posted by MrTangent

I really hope their file system is journaled, given that people will be pulling plugs to move the unit. This is really a major (imo) oversight on an otherwise stellar platform.

It works fine. Not an oversight.

[mike_camden]

Originally Posted by MrTangent

Thanks for the reply/answer. I can't believe TiVo didn't put a regular ole power button on the remote (besides the one for the TV) and on the front panel??

I understand their reasoning... if people power them down they won't be able to record their shows and/or might not turn it back on. They want the user to actively use the TiVo but not having a power down feature really confuses people (i.e. me). And then not mentioning it in the manual at all... I really hope their file system is journaled, given that people will be pulling plugs to move the unit. This is really a major (imo) oversight on an otherwise stellar platform.

I'm a computer techie type also, and I had a hard time with this when I bought my first Tivo five years ago. I finally pushed the "I believe button" and have never experienced any data corruption on the two DirecTivos, a DirecTivo HD, or our current Series 2 DT. It still gives me pause when I go to move the equipment in my wife's study, which is where the Series 2 is, but Tivo engineered their file system well (unlike the Moto DCT-6412 that seems prone to data corruption, but that's a whole different story).

[cramer]

Hah. No, it has no "power off". No reset button, no power button, and no power switch. The "restart" option is functionally identical to pulling the power cord; no files are closed, no processes shutdown, *poof* it reboots.

The OS partition is normally mounted read-only -- the spare partition is read-write only long enough to extract new software. MFS ("media filesystem") is transactional and fairly resilient -- well, it's more "serialized log" than transactional, but whatever. The onboard tools are pretty good at fixing even the most horriblly screwed up filesystem. (hardware failures and coding faults.)

Pulling the power won't hurt it. There's no true powered off state because it's always doing something. Just because the outputs are off doesn't mean it stops recording.

("/var" is RW. But the startup code will rebuild it if it's non-trivially damaged.)