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Old 03-26-2007, 04:37 PM   #1
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Comcast HD DVR cost $4.95/month !!

My Comcast bill list the Comcast DVR cost as $9.95/month so when I got my Series 3 working great I was going to use a HD Cable box on another HD TV in my home. I thought that I would save $9.95/month by not having the DVR function, not so, its only a savings of $4.95. That means that if you have a HDTV and A HD Cable Box, to upgrade to a HD DVR the cost increase would be only $4.95/month. That is less than I thought. My location is in the Hartford CT area. I mention this because it tells me that TiVo really needs that lower cost HD-DVR that I have been hearing about.
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Old 03-26-2007, 05:18 PM   #2
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Is that $4.95 for the HD-DVR, or is that $4.95 extra for the DVR vs just a HD cable box? If it's extra, you can't really compare it to the TiVo monthly cost, since you wouldn't need the cable box for the TiVO, and generally the CableCARDs are less expensive than a cable box.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:38 PM   #3
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My cable company charges for the DVR and another fee for DVR service.
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:56 PM   #4
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In many areas these are the charges:

SD STB = $0
HD STB = $5
HD PVR = $11.95 (recently increased from $9.95)
TiVo S3 = $1.50

There is also a "hidden" $6.99 fee. For the "2nd" equipment they will likely charge you digital additional outlet fee of $6.99 on top of the above fees regardless of which option you choose.

So the Comcast PVR is only $6.95 ($4.95 at the old pricing) if you are considering HD STB upgrade to PVR. If you are considering SD STB upgrade to PVR it is $11.95. In many areas, they also force you to get a digital package so if you don't have that, you have to add an additional $11.95 to the Comcast PVR regardless of whether you want the digital package or not.
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:44 PM   #5
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Before I got the Series 3 I was being charged

8.95 HD STB
4.95 PVR service

so 14.00 for HD DVR/box

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In many areas these are the charges:

SD STB = $0
HD STB = $5
HD PVR = $11.95 (recently increased from $9.95)
TiVo S3 = $1.50

There is also a "hidden" $6.99 fee. For the "2nd" equipment they will likely charge you digital additional outlet fee of $6.99 on top of the above fees regardless of which option you choose.

So the Comcast PVR is only $6.95 ($4.95 at the old pricing) if you are considering HD STB upgrade to PVR. If you are considering SD STB upgrade to PVR it is $11.95. In many areas, they also force you to get a digital package so if you don't have that, you have to add an additional $11.95 to the Comcast PVR regardless of whether you want the digital package or not.

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Old 03-27-2007, 03:42 AM   #6
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Since I have limited basic only, a Comcast DVR would cost me additional $61.13 per month.
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:30 AM   #7
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Is that $4.95 for the HD-DVR, or is that $4.95 extra for the DVR vs just a HD cable box? If it's extra, you can't really compare it to the TiVo monthly cost, since you wouldn't need the cable box for the TiVO, and generally the CableCARDs are less expensive than a cable box.
You are correct it is $4.95/month to upgrade from a HD cable box to a HD DVR cable box, its tricky because the cable co charges to receive HD, you would have to pay something if you just got the Cable Cards and wanted to watch HD channels using the cable cards.
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:37 AM   #8
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UNless you only have one HD box like I have for On Demand. Comcast doesn't charge me for that box. To add an HD DVR though they would charge me $11.95 a month. Which I would like. only so i could get a box with an HDMI output, but it's not worth $11.95 since I rarely use it. If it had the TiVo software for that price I would get it and use it for backup recordings.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:05 PM   #9
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Yea, some of these cable operators are trying to trick people with rates that appear lower than they actually are. For instance, my provider advertises $11.95 for an HD DVR, but they negelect to mention an additional $6.95 service fee attached to it. They also advertise their HD package for $9.95, but there's a $2.95 service fee tied to that. It reality, it's over $30 a month for a HD DVR with HD programming. Another thing they do is advertise their digital packages for about $20 per month less. The price is introductory and goes up after a year, but they negelect to make that obvious. Gotta pay attention with these guys or you could get a big surprise in the mail.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:17 PM   #10
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UNless you only have one HD box like I have for On Demand. Comcast doesn't charge me for that box. To add an HD DVR though they would charge me $11.95 a month. Which I would like. only so i could get a box with an HDMI output, but it's not worth $11.95 since I rarely use it. If it had the TiVo software for that price I would get it and use it for backup recordings.
I have the DVR Comcast Cable box (Mot) and I only want a box for On-Demand no DVR, I was suprised that I would only save $4.95/month, or put it another way if I had the HD cable box without a DVR, the DVR function would only cost me $4.95/month more.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:47 PM   #11
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All I know is after getting rid of the cable company box my cable bill went down around 19.00 a month.
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:17 PM   #12
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cablevision in NJ charges almost 6 dollars for the STB part, and an additional 9.99 for DVR service, so its about 16- plus tax a month for a regular or HD DVR. They don't charge extra for HD which is nice I suppose.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:06 PM   #13
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For instance, my provider advertises $11.95 for an HD DVR, but they negelect to mention an additional $6.95 service fee attached to it. They also advertise their HD package for $9.95, but there's a $2.95 service fee tied to that.
I love that kind of marketing. "It costs $11.95... if you also pay $6.95 extra".

A car dealer here many years ago had an ad in the Sunday paper that cracked me up. I wish I would have saved it. All the listed vehicle prices had a disclaimer in small print: the prices were only valid if you also paid $2000 (or some similar rather large amount, dopn't remember exactly) up front. So a $15k car was advertised as $13k... you just had to pay an additional $2k to get it for $13k.

Maybe the manager there had worked for a cable company before?
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:50 PM   #14
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In many areas these are the charges:

SD STB = $0
HD STB = $5
HD PVR = $11.95 (recently increased from $9.95)
TiVo S3 = $1.50

There is also a "hidden" $6.99 fee. For the "2nd" equipment they will likely charge you digital additional outlet fee of $6.99 on top of the above fees regardless of which option you choose.

So the Comcast PVR is only $6.95 ($4.95 at the old pricing) if you are considering HD STB upgrade to PVR. If you are considering SD STB upgrade to PVR it is $11.95. In many areas, they also force you to get a digital package so if you don't have that, you have to add an additional $11.95 to the Comcast PVR regardless of whether you want the digital package or not.
Really? Tivo dropped their monthly service for the S3 down to $1.50 per month?
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:52 PM   #15
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Really? Tivo dropped their monthly service for the S3 down to $1.50 per month?
No, CableCard for the S3.
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:30 PM   #16
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No, CableCard for the S3.
Oh, then I guess that's not really a fair comparison to say it's only $1.50 for the S3 and $11.95 for the "cable co" DVR then. At least IMO.
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:37 PM   #17
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Oh, then I guess that's not really a fair comparison to say it's only $1.50 for the S3 and $11.95 for the "cable co" DVR then. At least IMO.
Nobody was making that comparison, though. All of this is just what Comcast charges for the various options. The standard Comcast charge is $1.50 for cablecards for an S3 if it's the only box being charged for.
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:40 PM   #18
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All this seems a lot more complicated than a few years ago
(&/or I've got a lot older). Back then, I brought home a
TiVo & a Panasonic (or similar) in that order and liked the
2nd a lot better - but got refunds on each to avoid "nothing
but TV". Now I'm just upgrading from Standard Comcast to
Digital Plus & wondering if my next shd be some kind of TiVo
or a Comcast DVR (avoiding HD to keep things simple).
Shd I believe the 11.95 rate for DVR, or is there a "hidden
cost" - & how compare the result with TiVo, etc.
(C'cast brought one a while back & were unable to hook it up - but shd've learned a bit since then.)
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:56 AM   #19
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Oh, then I guess that's not really a fair comparison to say it's only $1.50 for the S3 and $11.95 for the "cable co" DVR then. At least IMO.
It was not meant as a comparison of total ownership costs. It was a list of charges you will see from Comcast. There are some hidden fees with the Comcast DVR if you don't already have a digital package. I assume since you own a TiVo you already know about the explicit fees TiVo charges, the unit itself, and the service, whether that be lifetime, MSD, or monthly.

Assuming your area's rate table matches those #s, it is a completely fair comparison of the charges you will see from Comcast if you have a single device.

SD cable box is $0 (included in package)
HD cable box is $5 ($5 for HD equipment fee upgrade over SD)
Comcast DVR is $11.95 ($11.95 for DVR service fee)
TiVo S3 is $1.50 (First CableCARD included in package, 2nd CableCARD $1.50)

If you need a *2nd* device, what they charge is $6.99 Digital Additional Outlet fee + the charges above (again assuming the rate table for your area matches)

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Old 04-03-2007, 04:32 PM   #20
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Re my 4/2, I shd probly start with some kind of TiVo from
BestBuy, check it out for 29 days (or as long as the free
svc lasts), and then decide if I shd pay Comcast a "Truck
Rolling Fee" to bring one of their units out here.
(Probly better than trying their DVR first, as I wdn't
be out anything at that point.) Or this may be the wrong
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Old 04-04-2007, 07:49 AM   #22
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In S FL, Comcast charges me $9.95 each for 2 SA8300HD boxes - that includes the remote, extra outlet fee and box rental (I assume they consider my CC on the Sony TV the 1st outlet, so the boxes are each "additional outlets"). Then they tack another $4.95 on for DVR service. That's a single charge - I don't know if it's a mistake or not but I'm not complaining. So now that I have a S3 Tivo, they charged me an additional $5.50 for 2 Cable Cards. I haven't got a monthly bill yet so I don't know what the monthly charge will be, but the single CC I have in my Sony TV costs $1.75/ month. I'm ready to pull the plug on the 2 SA boxes, but I'd like to have a digital box (no recording) for the second set. I have no idea what the final cost per month will be, and reading this thread, it looks like it's unpredictable.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:56 PM   #23
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The standard Comcast charge is $1.50 for cablecards for an S3 if it's the only box being charged for.
Is that what you're being charged? I'm just down the road from you and both my CableCARDs are free (though I know Comcast does charge in other areas)...
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Is that what you're being charged? I'm just down the road from you and both my CableCARDs are free (though I know Comcast does charge in other areas)...
Interesting. I saw that the bill went up by $5.50 or so with the March increase, and they said they were starting to charge $1.50 per cablecard in their new price sheet, so I had assumed the increase had included the cablecard fee. But you are right, it doesn't. I'm still listed as $0.00 for cablecards. (I'm also listed as $0.20 for a digital remote, which I don't have, and don't have any need for). Very possibly we're not listed as having TiVos, since we pre-date that line-item in their system.
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Since I have limited basic only, a Comcast DVR would cost me additional $61.13 per month.
EXACTLY....just about the same for me (using Mediacom)...therefore, the S3 "pays for itself" in about one year (granted without cable HD, but, right now I watch "too much" TV).
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Perhaps I'm a little dense, but why buy an S3 if you're not going to have HD?
Why not just get an S2?
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Perhaps I'm a little dense, but why buy an S3 if you're not going to have HD?
Why not just get an S2?
Bierboy gets OTA HD. I get local HD through Comcast limited basic.
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Perhaps I'm a little dense, but why buy an S3 if you're not going to have HD?
Why not just get an S2?
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Since I have limited basic only, a Comcast DVR would cost me additional $61.13 per month.
This is not really a fair statement. You are getting much more than just a Comcast DVR for your $61.13 per month (like an extra 100 channels including perhaps a dozen HD channels you never had access to). You may not want those things, but you are getting more.
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This is not really a fair statement.
Why would I want to pay more than $60/month for channels I don't watch? I might as well throw the money into the trash can. If I want to get ALL of the non-premium HD channels, I just have to pay $12/month more for digital classic, not >$60/month for the Comcast DVR.
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