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03-26-2007, 03:30 AM
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Sign me up! Looks great!! I want one!!!
Yeah! way to go!! Good job!!!
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03-26-2007, 03:45 AM
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Wow looks awesome! I'm surprised that TiVo hasn't released something like this themselves. It would be a lot more effective if the user could just access it from their server instead of having to install something on their home PC. However as soon as you're ready let me know, I have no problem testing this out. 
Dan
P.S. nice use of the default Windows Vista background 
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03-26-2007, 07:23 AM
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Wow looks awesome! I'm surprised that TiVo hasn't released something like this themselves.
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No doubt they were all busy researching all possible S1 DST solutions...
Good work, Doug.
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03-26-2007, 07:35 AM
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Awesome, just awesome.
Thanks for working on this, we all know that Tivo was going to release something like this but on their Winter 2009 software update release.......... 
Again thanks,
Any timeframe when you'll be posting the DL link?
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03-26-2007, 09:22 AM
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Looks very polished 
There must be a considerable amount of Data to go through but
any chance of a search by title feature?
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03-26-2007, 09:31 AM
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Looks very polished
There must be a considerable amount of Data to go through but
any chance of a search by title feature? |
There were some difficult restrictions in the amount of data that can be received from Amazon ECS such that to retrieve a full set of titles and do the search like I wanted to do (much like the TiVo's search through the program lists) wasn't practical (10 titles max returned per request, no more than one request per second from each IP). I'd decided on another approach that requires I compile the full list regularly and let the HME clients obtain it from my server in a far more compact form all at once. So once I get the current version out I'll be pursuing that approach.
I could offer some keyword style searching now, but it was really just a pain in the way Amazon returns data and how poor the searching capabilities really are for the web interfaces. It was just a bit awkward from a users point of view, too. And I didn't really want to have any more screen scraping than I absolutely have to have, so figured the keyword searching could also wait till I can send a full database of everything to the client. I've expressed my issues with all these sorts of limitations to Amazon's developer group and have had resounding silence by way of reply so far. Go figure.
It wouldn't have been so bad, but there's limited ways I can filter content that's actually available to the TiVo receivers vs. all other Unbox content, and that then restricts what else I can do to search. My planned solution above also lets me handle titles in both rental and purchase forms much more efficiently; right now it's two separate screen scrapes each time you select a title to get more info and I can't pre-filter the list of titles to get rid of both instances since at the point that info is returned, there's nothing relating the two forms to each other or even identifying which is which.
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03-26-2007, 09:34 AM
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While I personally have no inclination to use Unbox at least in the near future I can't help admiring the splendid piece of work you've done here. Nice job!
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03-26-2007, 09:35 AM
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Cool, and since Amazon Associates are eligible to earn 10%, on all Unbox referrals (up to $1.50 per item) you should be able to recoup some funds for your development efforts. Sounds good to me. The UI is just what I have been waiting for... Keep it going.
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03-26-2007, 09:46 AM
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Cool...
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Cool, and since Amazon Associates are eligible to earn 10%, on all Unbox referrals (up to $1.50 per item) you should be able to recoup some funds for your development efforts.
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You mean, he's going to make money on us?   
I think it's a great job - I would like to know why TiVo and Amazon can't get together to figure this out - TiVo must still be working on the DST update!
Let me know when I can start sending you some of my money via referrals.
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03-26-2007, 09:54 AM
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Under TiVo / Comcast, we know that "Find Programs" will also seek out PPV (don't we?).
I wonder if it will also handle Amazon downloads the same way?
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03-26-2007, 10:01 AM
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Yes, I assume he would be using his Associates ID so he could generate referral revenue for each movie or show purchased using the interface. That is what I would do. His hard work should be rewarded somehow. Seems like a nice way to do it.
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03-26-2007, 10:02 AM
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This stuff looks GREAT! I think I remember hearing that TiVo is working on this, just that they will be monetizing purchases that come through their interface. I'm guessing it takes longer to figure out those issues than actual development. In the meantime, it's amazing to see what has been done by Doug already.
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03-26-2007, 10:55 AM
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This looks awesome!
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03-26-2007, 10:57 AM
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Kudos--great piece of work!
Just curious--how is this set up? I'm imagining that you have to give it your Amazon account log-in and that you have to enable One-Click purchasing on Amazon.
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Doug,
This looks great! An amazing piece of work.
A feature I would like to see would be that if Amazon ever support widescreen content to be able to search just for those versions.
Al
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03-26-2007, 11:05 AM
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I second, third, and fourth this! It looks totally cool!
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03-26-2007, 11:58 AM
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Doug,
This is definitely something I would use.
Just curious, did you need to get prior approval to use the Amazon badging?
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Doug,
This is definitely something I would use.
Just curious, did you need to get prior approval to use the Amazon badging?
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Amazon's pretty loose with such things when used in their associate-related pursuits. Though I think there's something I have to include someplace to properly identify everything... gotta go find those agreements and check.
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03-26-2007, 12:14 PM
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I think it's a great job - I would like to know why TiVo and Amazon can't get together to figure this out -
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well they probably are, assuming they have not just dropped the idea of an on TiVo interface. I asked the question about search by title and Doug's detailed response showed that there is clearly work to be done on the UNBOX side with the web interfaces in order to put the kind of features I would think TiVo would want to include such as tying it into the search by title widget.
Doug has made good use of the existing web services but does not seem to quite have the pull to get the UNBOX developers to add more/better functionality 
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Great Work!!!
I like how you put in a "cancel purchase" button.........sort of a "watch out, after this it's one-click....."
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Great Work!!!
I like how you put in a "cancel purchase" button.........sort of a "watch out, after this it's one-click....."
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Yeah, and it's the default when you get to that page... I was thinking, for fun, to have some options... 3 thumbs-up + ENTER, or a PIN code entry.
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It looks pretty cool. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole Idea of video download but if I unbox, this looks like a pretty cool way to do it.
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I would like to get High Definition movies from Amazon Unbox on my Tivo Series 3. Does anybody have any idea when that might happen?
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03-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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This looks great, dswallow. Direct subscription to the HME app via the TiVo box, I'm hoping?
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I would like to get High Definition movies from Amazon Unbox on my Tivo Series 3. Does anybody have any idea when that might happen?
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Nobody here does, but there have been lots of posts/complaints about this in more appropriate threads. All Amazon has said is "they're working on it."
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