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Old 03-14-2007, 01:38 PM   #31
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Isn't that what they do when they jump?
FTL really hasn't been explained in too much detail, but it's almost like a transporter type effect. It's called FTL because you get from point A to point B faster than the speed of light--but it's not something where they say "OK, today we're going to travel at 2 * c."

If you really fleshed out the BSG FTL drive tech, it could almost be used in place of a transporter beam in the scenarios above. Load up some nukes in a Raptor, FTL it into the ENT hangar bay, detonate. There's no guarantee that the ENT shields would block FTL technology. Conversely, since FTL tech is known to the BSG universe (the unofficial backstory is that transporter blocking of ENT shields was actually added after the creation of the transporter, to prevent attacks like we are describing--rather than shields inherently blocking transporters), you can assume that BSG ships are armored/protected in such a way to prevent FTL based attacks.

So, if you take transporters out of the mix, since both have them appear to have heavy duty shielding/armoring, I'd probably have to give the edge to the Enterprise, only because of the manueverability and quicker/more powerful attacks. But, if the ENT wound up in the BSG universe, physics would prevent it from having the manueverability that we see on ST, and the ENT would get blown out of the sky.
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Old 03-14-2007, 01:55 PM   #32
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:11 PM   #33
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Galactica would love to have the Enterprise's food replicator technology so they could quit eating algae.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:56 PM   #34
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Yeah, isn't it great how all the problems in Star Trek can be solved with Chroniton, Vertiron, Tachyon, and Polaron beams/pulses?
Patently untrue. Sometimes they had to use inverse tachyon beams.

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Old 03-14-2007, 02:57 PM   #35
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Patently untrue. Sometimes they had to use inverse tachyon beams.

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Fair enough, I stand corrected.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:01 PM   #36
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Yes, the great 69 event. Lots of people looking forward to it.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:40 PM   #37
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Cylon Fleet versus the Borg.

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Old 03-14-2007, 03:41 PM   #38
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Cylons versus Transformers.

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Old 03-14-2007, 03:53 PM   #39
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Anyone who enjoys the particular sort of argument as laid out in the title of this thread should download "Star Wreck in the Pirkinning" and watch it. It's quite amusing.

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Old 03-14-2007, 04:19 PM   #40
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A fleet of Star Destroyers, though, could give them some trouble. Not the locals mind you, I'm talking about the big Corellian kind.

A fleet? Hell, a single Imperial Class Star Destroyer would treat the Enterprise (pick a version, any version) like it's own personal Jello Puddin' Pop. It's 3 times as big, has 10x the firepower, and carries its own squadron of TIE fighters.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:42 PM   #41
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A fleet? Hell, a single Imperial Class Star Destroyer would treat the Enterprise (pick a version, any version) like it's own personal Jello Puddin' Pop. It's 3 times as big, has 10x the firepower, and carries its own squadron of TIE fighters.
For once I disagree with DPR. I still think the Enterprise wins.

Transport a bomb on board. And boom
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:45 PM   #42
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Can you transport onto something armed with shields? I was under the impression that you couldn't.

Plus, if Vader is on board, he can impose a Force bubble around the bomb that would absorb the blast, and then for kicks he can choke out Kirk/Picard/whomever via videoconferencing.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:51 PM   #43
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For once I disagree with DPR. I still think the Enterprise wins.

Transport a bomb on board. And boom
Unless, of course, the Asgard get involved and prevent the transporters from working with bombs. -- Heck, if we are combining universes, why stop with two?
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I must be a geek--funny stuff. Love the extreme fighting matchups. Who's Picard going to go against?
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:54 PM   #46
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Enterprise would win in any incarnation if we were talking about it's specs as they are in paper/technobabble. If we're talking about how they appear on screen it'd be a close fight that the Galactica would probably win. For cryin out loud Enterprise's photon torpedoes use antimatter and have a yeild measured in the isotons, yet the explosion and the damage caused to planetside buildings is less than we can do with a Tomahawk. (yes, I know, variable yield. I'm talking about the "full spread, maximum yield" shots!) I saw a great example of the specs not matching the fx in an episode of Voyager a few days ago. Chakotay: "They've closed to 50,000 kilometers!" FX shot half second later shows a ship that's almost overlapping the shuttle...
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:30 PM   #47
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Old 03-14-2007, 08:41 PM   #48
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What about the Ori? The Wraith are technically about on par with the Earth (and its allies), but the Ori blow the "good guys" out of the water...or, um...space.
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:22 AM   #49
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No one has mentioned the crews. The BSG crew is rather dysfunctional compared with the teutonic efficiency of the Starfleet folks. Just somethin' else to throw out there. I still think it's a non-starter, as any class Enterprise could take the BSG.
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:07 AM   #50
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There was an episode of STTNG I believe where they encountered a primitive (to the federation) race that was armed with nuclear bombs.

One of the crewmen was sitting there in amazement when they saw the armaments of the other ship. I'll paraphrase here.

"they can't even penetrate our navigational shields"

[edit] my mistake, after a search I found that the quote was about lasers, not nukes. And I remember it once coming up in a discussion of Star Trek vs Star Wars. But still, I think their shields could take a nuke.
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:00 AM   #51
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I always find it funny all the talk about the vaunted Enterprise shields. Wasn't it about every other episode the shields were down?
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Old 03-15-2007, 10:46 AM   #52
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They were still more reliable than the holodecks...
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:20 AM   #53
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Can you transport onto something armed with shields? I was under the impression that you couldn't.

Plus, if Vader is on board, he can impose a Force bubble around the bomb that would absorb the blast, and then for kicks he can choke out Kirk/Picard/whomever via videoconferencing.
If Vader is around, your right

But if not, Enterprise win. heh
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:44 AM   #54
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The way Kirk bedded anything with a single X chromosome, he probably picked up a case of midichlorians along the way!
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:32 PM   #55
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What about the Ori?
I think it would take somebody like the Q to defeat the Ori (especially if they were actually fighting themselves, and not just using their worshippers as proxies as they do in the show).
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:37 PM   #56
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I think it would take somebody like the Q to defeat the Ori
I certainly hope not, or else the Earth is in deep trouble...
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I certainly hope not, or else the Earth is in deep trouble...
Don't get me wrong, I'm confident that SG-1 will defeat them; but probably only by using Ascended technology themselves (Merlin's amulet).

P.S. Or, of course, the "good" Ascended could finally step in. Or Daniel could give them a philosophical beat-down... whatever.

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Old 03-15-2007, 10:55 PM   #58
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I always find it funny all the talk about the vaunted Enterprise shields. Wasn't it about every other episode the shields were down?
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:25 AM   #59
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This thread reads like an actual conversation between Henchmen numbers 21 and 24! Except no one has been accused of being a 'poser' yet!
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Old 03-16-2007, 05:41 AM   #60
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Also, Data would theorize that modifying the main deflector to emit a <technobabble> pulse would disable the Galactica.
Nah, that's Geordi's role.

If we're talking Enterprise D or E vs. TNS Galactica, I think the Enterprise would easily destroy Galactica.

The vipers wouldn't be able to do squat, I don't think the projectile weapons could penetrate the shields and phasers could take out incoming nukes. Some well placed phaser shots and torpedoes should be enough to take out Galactica.
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