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01-04-2007, 06:48 PM
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Seagate Gearing up for 300 Terabyte Hard Drive
Just thought you all might enjoy this...
http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/07...%3D1&quicken=2
His comparison of disk space on this baby had me ROTFWL.
Can you imagine sticking four of them in a Power Mac.
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01-04-2007, 07:00 PM
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I am sure people can fill up the drives.
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01-04-2007, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Johncv
His comparison of disk space on this baby had me ROTFWL.
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from the article
"Even if you were using the drive to store high definition content, you could still record television 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, using both HDTV tuners on a series 3 TiVo (NASDAQ: TIVO - News) for over two years before you’d run out of storage capacity."
yes but how many days to scroll the now playing list
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01-04-2007, 08:16 PM
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I'm not sure I could even fill up one of those, but 750GB is a little sparse. I could probably be satisfied with 2-3TB (3-500 hours of HD).
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01-04-2007, 08:27 PM
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Knowing Seagate you would probably need earplugs to hide the noise
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01-04-2007, 09:29 PM
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I think this is another case of a reporter confusing bits and bytes. I had read about this, and it was 300 terrabits, not terrabytes. Still quite impressive, but it would translate to roughly 30TB. I also saw the estimation as 2012, not 2010.
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01-05-2007, 09:23 PM
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But 1TB drives are coming out this year at $399..
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01-05-2007, 10:43 PM
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I don't know why I love this, but I REALLY do. There was a point that I was saying "who needs more than 80 Ggs.." But with HD, and video, It's just so COOL how disk space is RAPIDLY expanding. I almost can't believe that we are putting 750 GIG HARD DISKS in our TiVo's! I mean, who would've thought when TiVo's first came out, we'd be talking 750 hours of SD recording!!!
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01-05-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam1115
I don't know why I love this, but I REALLY do. There was a point that I was saying "who needs more than 80 Ggs.." But with HD, and video, It's just so COOL how disk space is RAPIDLY expanding. I almost can't believe that we are putting 750 GIG HARD DISKS in our TiVo's! I mean, who would've thought when TiVo's first came out, we'd be talking 750 hours of SD recording!!!
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The first HD I ever owned was 10MB (for the Atari ST) -- enormous! I thought -- how will I ever fill this up?
A few years later I bought a 9GB drive for $3600 (for video editing in the Newtek Video Flyer system on the Amiga)). It was almost the size of a shoebox and weighed a ton. I thought it was a great deal!
Ah, technology...
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01-05-2007, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by skanter
A few years later I bought a 9GB drive for $3600 (for video editing in the Newtek Video Flyer system on the Amiga)). It was almost the size of a shoebox and weighed a ton. I thought it was a great deal!
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In the grand scheme of these things called years, where about does this land in the timeline?
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01-06-2007, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Einselen
In the grand scheme of these things called years, where about does this land in the timeline?
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The 10MB HD ws late 80's, the 9GB HD was early 90's. You figure it out -- I have no idea.
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01-06-2007, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by skanter
the 9GB HD was early 90's.
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Are you sure? I had access to some pretty big drives and 1GB was new in 93. The first 9GB I had was in 99.
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01-06-2007, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by btwyx
Are you sure? I had access to some pretty big drives and 1GB was new in 93. The first 9GB I had was in 99.
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Positive. I purchased the Newtek Video Toaster in 1992, the Video Flyer in 1994. For storage, I bought both a 9GB and a 4.5GB Seagate Barracuda (SCSI). The 9GB was $3600, the 4.5GB was $1800. I still have the receipt hanging in my studio!
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01-06-2007, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by skanter
The first HD I ever owned was 10MB (for the Atari ST) -- enormous! I thought -- how will I ever fill this up?
A few years later I bought a 9GB drive for $3600 (for video editing in the Newtek Video Flyer system on the Amiga)). It was almost the size of a shoebox and weighed a ton. I thought it was a great deal!
Ah, technology... 
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Indeed! Make drive space available and people will fill it!
Imagine a RAID 5 array of those babies  WOO! But to keep it forum related, I would love to have a 300TB drive in a TIVO provided it would fit and stay cool.
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01-07-2007, 06:05 PM
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What about DRM??
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Indeed! Make drive space available and people will fill it!
Imagine a RAID 5 array of those babies  WOO! But to keep it forum related, I would love to have a 300TB drive in a TIVO provided it would fit and stay cool.
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What happens to DRM when people can use 300TB drives as storage devices? Will this be the end of "Save until I delete"?
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01-07-2007, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Johncv
What happens to DRM when people can use 300TB drives as storage devices? Will this be the end of "Save until I delete"? 
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Since I added the 320GB eSATA drive to the SA8300HD (480GB total), I have over 45 HD movies on there with no sign of the box wanting to erase anything. Seems it should be filling up, but this storage is amazing! Some movies are long, like Titanic and King Kong.
A few TBs and storage wouldn't be an issue at all.
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01-08-2007, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by skanter
The 10MB HD ws late 80's,
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sounds late for a 10 MB HD. The 5 meg ProFile drive was introduced in Sept 1981, and a 10 meg version came later (though in a quick search I can't find out when).
I still have a 120 meg drive from 1991 at home (haven't powered it up in a while) on my GS, and had an ~80 meg drive a few years earlier than that in a big external case.
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01-08-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mattack
sounds late for a 10 MB HD. The 5 meg ProFile drive was introduced in Sept 1981, and a 10 meg version came later (though in a quick search I can't find out when).
I still have a 120 meg drive from 1991 at home (haven't powered it up in a while) on my GS, and had an ~80 meg drive a few years earlier than that in a big external case.
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I bought the 10MB specifically for thew Atari ST, which was introduced in 1985. I think it's companion 10MB drive was a year or two later, at least that's when I got it.
Apple may have a different timeline...
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01-09-2007, 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by btwyx
Are you sure? I had access to some pretty big drives and 1GB was new in 93.
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My Dad bought a 1GB hard drive in 93. He said he payed almost $1,000 for it.  It went into a PC which also contained a new Pentium 100MHz CPU and 64MB of RAM!!! It was a monster in it's day.
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01-09-2007, 07:12 AM
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I've got an Avid HD array tower with four 9gig HD's if anyone wants it.
someone.....please!
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01-09-2007, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by skanter
Since I added the 320GB eSATA drive to the SA8300HD (480GB total), I have over 45 HD movies on there with no sign of the box wanting to erase anything. Seems it should be filling up, but this storage is amazing! Some movies are long, like Titanic and King Kong.
A few TBs and storage wouldn't be an issue at all.
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I did the same thing with with the SA8300HD Box I have, after I read your post. It's amazing how better the box works with more space. Just hope the TiVo upgrade does not turn off the eSATA drive.
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01-09-2007, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Johncv
I did the same thing with with the SA8300HD Box I have, after I read your post. It's amazing how better the box works with more space. Just hope the TiVo upgrade does not turn off the eSATA drive. 
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No Tivo upgrade with TWC in NYC, I don't think. They are coming out with new software here -- hope it doesn't kill the eSATA.
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01-11-2007, 11:36 AM
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Back in my day, we had to whittle our own ICs out of wood.
...and we liked it. We talked about it all day and night on a CNet BBS (remember when Cnet wasn't a gadget information portal?) that had a whopping 15+ phone lines (thanks to my "Adopt-a-Line" idea).
...and we liked it.
BTW, I thought that was a bit of an unrealistic jump in capacity...
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-Correction- The 300 TB is actually terabits, and not terabytes. Therefore, the new Seagate drive in 2010 will store approximately 37.5 terabytes, and while that's just over 10 times smaller than a real 300 terabyte drive,
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01-12-2007, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Seattle
I am sure perverts and pirates can fill up the drives.
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Corrected.
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01-12-2007, 10:51 AM
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If this is the case, I'd just buy 16 of them to fill this bad boy:
It has a 2Gb fiber host connection, and two host controllers (which mean you could split the storage into two seperate connections).
1 x RAID5 configuration = 15 drives x 300TB = I JUST SOILED MY PANTS (a.k.a. 4500TB, or 4.5PB)
Archive 90,000 HD-DVDs. DONE. YUMMY.
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01-12-2007, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by classicX
If this is the case, I'd just buy 16 of them to fill this bad boy:
It has a 2Gb fiber host connection, and two host controllers (which mean you could split the storage into two seperate connections).
1 x RAID5 configuration = 15 drives x 300TB = I JUST SOILED MY PANTS (a.k.a. 4500TB, or 4.5PB)
Archive 90,000 HD-DVDs. DONE. YUMMY.
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Remember you will need to format all of them.
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01-13-2007, 12:54 PM
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Backups will be a real drag.
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