Heroes "Homecoming" OAD 11/20/06 - *spoilers* - Page 7

balboa dave · 11-22-2006, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by choccy

30 skip rules - press it fast enough and you don't see anything (6 times = 3 minutes of commercials completely wiped out). You also can't use FF with your eyes closed, but you always know exactly where you are with 30 second skip.

skip = skip, jump over, avoid
ff = watch the same commercials, only faster

There's so many things wrong with your statement. I watch TV with my eyes open, you? Not all commercials and station breaks are the same length, nor can you know their length if you watch enough varied TV. You don't "watch" a commercial while FF, but you might figure out what it's about. And maybe 1 out of 20 commercials are worth seeing, whether they're just well made, or are previews for shows or movies you might otherwise miss. But don't let me spoil your rather narrow conclusion because you prefer to ignore the bigger picture.

smak · 11-22-2006, 03:52 AM

Yah, what Dave said, unless your 30 second skipping is of legend.....ary proportions, you have to actually see a tiny sliver of each commercial.

I think people like Heroes so much, that if they see that sliver, they go back and watch the commercial.

I probably could never tell you what a House or Ugly Betty commercial says.

-smak-

Zevida · 11-22-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by atrac

I'm surprised to see a debate on if Zach is gay or not. I felt like it was pretty straight forward that he is gay. I am interested to see opinions to the contrary though...I didn't think of it any other way until reading this thread.

I never for a second thought he was gay until this episode. As someone else mentioned, he seemed a lot like Xandar from Buffy. A bit of a nerd, a bit of an outcast, hanging around the odd-ball pretty girl whose got something weird going on and he's got a crush on her.

eddyj · 11-22-2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zevida

I never for a second thought he was gay until this episode. As someone else mentioned, he seemed a lot like Xandar from Buffy. A bit of a nerd, a bit of an outcast, hanging around the odd-ball pretty girl whose got something weird going on and he's got a crush on her.

This was my thought too. But then again, my gaydar is non-existent.

wprager · 11-22-2006, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dswallow

So I pretty much fully discount anybody saying that this hype was purely marketing and could've been easily avoided. And frankly I don't think anybody aware of it at all truly was sure it was only false hype until after they saw the episode.

I've got this filter that sits between my senses (eyes, ears, etc.) and my memory bank; I get to decide what's true, what's hype and so on. Hiro came back from the future -- far enough in the future to not have an accent, and to say that Peter looked different without the scar -- in order to tell Peter that they had to save the cheerleader in order to save the world. If they (the heroes) could not figure out that they needed to save the cheerleader until that far into the future, then doesn't it follow that the events leading up to the end of the world would not take place until some time later, as well?

Anyhow, that was my take on it, so I did not at all expect the end of the world or even the explosion in NYC to take place this week. And if you recall, I was the one who originally thought that the NYC explosion from Hiro's future travel (November 8?) would be aired around the same time frame in real-life.

Did some people (not just Doug) really expect the explosion (or, actually, prevention of it) to take place this past Monday?

emandbri · 11-22-2006, 07:23 AM

Add me to the list who didn't know Zach was gay. Even after this episode I didn't think he was, I thought the bitchy cheerleader wanted to dis him and couldn't think of anything better.

Emily

dianebrat · 11-22-2006, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by emandbri

Add me to the list who didn't know Zach was gay. Even after this episode I didn't think he was, I thought the bitchy cheerleader wanted to dis him and couldn't think of anything better.

Emily

I didn't hear him actually say the words, either Monday or previously... and while in typical Heroes fashion, one could certainly infer a lot, but that's not accurate.

To paraphrase (since I'm at work) he says " I don't care what anyone thinks, let them make whatever assumptions they want"

That's not "I'm gay and I don't care" that's "I don't care what they think"

And in that scenario, he may be letting folks think what they want because he truly doesn't care, and that's pretty damn cool in my eyes.

Diane

unicorngoddess · 11-22-2006, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wprager

Did some people (not just Doug) really expect the explosion (or, actually, prevention of it) to take place this past Monday?

No. But I, for one, did expect more "Heroes" to show up for the save the cheerleader part. I was so sure that Hiro would have found his way back in time, at about 8:11ish, and someone would be on the verge of death and he would make that little fart-face and freeze time to save the day...with all the references in that episode about not having enough time, I was almost sure that Hiro would have come into play somehwere. Then I expected some kind of bigger battle with Sylar. He was suppose to be this all powerful big bad and he takes off running while Peter was knocked unconcious.

But, with all that said, I still wasn't disappointed. I was totally shocked that we even got to see Sylar captured...thought he'd be running wild all season.

katbug · 11-22-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by emandbri

Add me to the list who didn't know Zach was gay. Even after this episode I didn't think he was, I thought the bitchy cheerleader wanted to dis him and couldn't think of anything better.

Emily

+1. I too just figured that he was a little shy around Claire.

I wasn't at all disappointed in the episode...I didn't expect everything to happen in this episode, but knew it would be pivotal for the future episodes.

yep, the hype was out-of-control and I FFx3 through commercials, but couldn't avoid it in the magazines I read or in the threads where so many have "Save the cheerleader, save the world" in their signatures.

The phrase bugged me from the minute it became a part of the show, seeming so simplistic that I figured people would think the show was stupid by hearing it (people who weren't watching yet). Turns out I was right. I asked a friend if she had seen the show and she said "Save the cheerleader, save the world? Sounds like a dumb show to me." Of course I set her straight, but it validated my point about the phrase.

milo99 · 11-22-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dswallow

Now I wish it was Peter who was getting this treatment though. But then I've got a thing for Milo...

hmm.. am i missing something here?

Figaro · 11-22-2006, 09:48 AM

No one has theorized that Hiro has already saved Charlie? Just because everyone thinks she is dead doesn't mean that she is dead. Perhaps he saves her by convincing her to fake her own death so Sylar doesn't think she is alive anymore? Then she lives on to become the Heroes "Oracle" with all that them there book learning she does.

Shakhari · 11-22-2006, 11:24 AM

So Parkman and the radiation guy both have starter tattoos after being taken, but Jessica has a complete one.

Micah said that something had happened to Niki six months ago.

Maybe the reason that Nathan was the only one taken in Las Vegas a few episodes back is that Niki had already been taken six months before.

MickeS · 11-22-2006, 11:55 AM

The only thing that disappointed me was the actual "fight" with Sylar. I was hoping there would be something more, at least Peter using Sylar's own powers against him or something. Not just them falling down.

PJO1966 · 11-22-2006, 12:03 PM

I think Sylar's power is to remove all light from his vicinity so that he's constantly in shadows.

milo99 · 11-22-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeS

The only thing that disappointed me was the actual "fight" with Sylar. I was hoping there would be something more, at least Peter using Sylar's own powers against him or something. Not just them falling down.

yea, i didn't quite get that. for someone who seems so powerful, that was a pretty crappy fight. i hope they explain his powers more in the future, because right now, that just makes no sense to me. What, he can only cut open a scalp if the person is not really fighting it? and he's just bulletproof but can't actually fight? but CAN use telekinesis?

goblue97 · 11-22-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by choccy

Oh, and so I can get it out of my system early this week, here is how you correctly spell the names of some of the characters on Heroes

Claire Bennett (Cheerleader)
Mr. Bennett (Claire's father)
Zach (Claire's male friend)
Sandra Bennet (Claire's mom)
Eden McCain (Pixie girl)

Why does Sandra Bennet spel her name diferently than Claire and Mr. Bennett do?

WinBear · 11-22-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by goblue97

Why does Sandra Bennet spel her name diferently than Claire and Mr. Bennett do?

Claire and HRG both spell Bennet with one t.

busyba · 11-22-2006, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zevida

I never for a second thought he was gay until this episode. As someone else mentioned, he seemed a lot like Xandar from Buffy. A bit of a nerd, a bit of an outcast, hanging around the odd-ball pretty girl whose got something weird going on and he's got a crush on her.

Xander wasn't gay?!?!?

Fraser+Dief · 11-22-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by choccy

All the gore? are we watching the same show?

There has been a minimal amount of gore (and I wouldn't even call that gore!) and nothing unjustified. We didn't even see memory girl's head topped.

Yeah, all the gore. Man, you must be desensitized if you're not seeing it.

We've seen practically endless twisted limbs, broken bones, heads cut open, brains missing, bodies forked to the wall, mangled fingers in garbage disposals, open chest cavities during autopsies, blood spilling everywhere during brain removal, etc. And I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, that's just off the top of my head.

My wife *still* has trouble sleeping over that damn autopsy scene.

dimented · 11-22-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraser+Dief

Yeah, all the gore. Man, you must be desensitized if you're not seeing it.

We've seen practically endless twisted limbs, broken bones, heads cut open, brains missing, bodies forked to the wall, mangled fingers in garbage disposals, open chest cavities during autopsies, blood spilling everywhere during brain removal, etc. And I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, that's just off the top of my head.

My wife *still* has trouble sleeping over that damn autopsy scene.

No worse than any of the CSI's though. So, yea, I guess I am getting desensitized.

stiffi · 11-22-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeS

The only thing that disappointed me was the actual "fight" with Sylar. I was hoping there would be something more, at least Peter using Sylar's own powers against him or something. Not just them falling down.

This was my biggest problem too. Aside from it being "just" a fall, it seemed to be a short fall. Those steps couldn't have been more than 15 feet off the ground. While we're on the subject, the fact that the fall was enough to break both of Peter's legs, 1 so it was turned around backwards, seemed a little much too.

madscientist · 11-22-2006, 01:09 PM

Oy. Canadians. So cute!

rlc1 · 11-22-2006, 01:15 PM

I really wish there were some more heroics on this show.

Yes, Peter saved the cheerleader, but he didn't use any kind of "Hero" powers to do it, he just pushed the guy over a wall. His powers helped only to save himself from getting mortally injured.

Other than that, and Claire healing herself, the only other hero-like power we saw used in this episode was the boy that showed Mohinder those visions.

We need to start seeing more action from the main-character heroes.

Supfreak26 · 11-22-2006, 01:15 PM

I thought it was a very good episode. I'm glad Hiro didn't make it back just in the nick of time like most movies and TV shows would have happen.

I'm not disapointed in the "fight" either. I thought it was pretty realistic considering that Peter and Claire were pretty much in panic mode. Maybe they get smoother down the road as they learn how to use their powers but right now they are still pretty clueless.

Interesting that Sylar was caught so easily. Can't wait to see what they can learn about him. BTW, we slo-moed the scene where he was caught and for a second, his face is lit up and he looked very much like Nathan. Don't think it's him but I found that a little wierd.

I'm pretty sure Zach is gay and if that's true, what a freakin' waste that is. He's got a shot at super-hot Claire and he's not interested. Many a "freak" would kill to be in his shoes. What a sad sad shame.

So I guess the "Save the Cheerleader..." slogan is dead now?

DevdogAZ · 11-22-2006, 01:17 PM

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So I guess the "Save the Cheerleader..." slogan is dead now?

One can only hope.

rlc1 · 11-22-2006, 01:18 PM

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He's got a shot at super-hot Claire and he's not interested. Many a "freak" would kill to be in his shoes. What a sad sad shame.

Isn't it a little creepy to be calling a high-school girl "super-hot"?

Yeah, she's good-looking, but come on, she's so young....

alpacaboy · 11-22-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fraser+Dief

Yeah, all the gore. ... blood spilling everywhere during brain removal, etc. And I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, that's just off the top of my head.

hee hee. top of your head... hee hee.

busyba · 11-22-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rlc1

Isn't it a little creepy to be calling a high-school girl "super-hot"?

Yeah, she's good-looking, but come on, she's so young....

She's 17. In most states it's perfectly legal to think of her as super hot.

Actually, in every state it's legal to think it... for now.

busyba · 11-22-2006, 01:28 PM

Anyway, the creepy part about thinking she's hot isn't that she's young, it's that she's fat.

johnperkins21 · 11-22-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by busyba

Anyway, the creepy part about thinking she's hot isn't that she's young, it's that she's fat.

Huh? Fat, no. Super-hot, yes. And definitely not illegal to think that way. Don't any of you remember the countdown clock for when Natalie Portman would hit 18? Nothing wrong with checking out the merchandise before you're able to buy it.