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09-21-2006, 10:28 PM
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Grey's Anatomy - OAD (Season Premiere 9/21/2006) "Time Has Come Today" *Spoilers*
Simply golden.
Still has what I love about the show.
Wonder how they'll work Izzy back in. Definitly plenty of things still going on.
But um plague? Just out of the blue, oh hi here's some plague? Course, that's normal on GA.
Watched this (live) over CSI.
Discuss.
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09-21-2006, 10:38 PM
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The "horrible virus/plague" thing was way too hokey.
Other than that, it was okay, and I like how they filled in some of the backstory.
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09-21-2006, 10:46 PM
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My power went out before the end of the show. What happened after Derek and George walked in and Callie hugged George, saying she had been so worried?
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09-21-2006, 11:23 PM
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Excellent excellent episode - what a way to start the season. Interesting balance between the 4 interns sticking together over the Denny LVAD thing and the 4 student girls sticking together about the baby.
Poor Dr. Bailey.... of course, this will probably be her Emmy nomination episode. The scene with the guy from The Practice was great. I'm not sure the backstory was necessary, but it did provide perspective (Yang and Burke especially). I guess it does prove, however, that George doesn't learn from mistakes - his or McDreamy's.
Can't wait for next week.
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09-21-2006, 11:38 PM
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I duno why but I find myself attracted to callie.
good episode. hoping the plague thing pans out to more than just a gimmick to get derrek and omalley hanging.
we had storms here. luckily they only broke in during commericals. and they said its reairing tomorrow night just in case.
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09-21-2006, 11:47 PM
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My power went out before the end of the show. What happened after Derek and George walked in and Callie hugged George, saying she had been so worried?
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Callie told him she loved him very, very much. Derek looked disappointed McPuppyDog eyes at George for not repeating it.
Derek walks into the kitchen, where Meredith is cleaning dishes. She asks him "What does this mean", and Derek gives her a standard GA angst speech; she has a choice to make, he doesn't want to rush her, he's in love with her (twinkly teeth smile inserted here) ... he re-emphasizes that she needs to take her time to decide, because when he had a decision to make, he chose wrong. Good night, walk out, Meredith looks ... Meredithy.
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09-22-2006, 12:49 AM
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Isn't Bubonic Plague treatable with antibiotics? Why all the scary quarantine stuff?
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09-22-2006, 01:12 AM
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Isn't Bubonic Plague treatable with antibiotics? Why all the scary quarantine stuff?
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Wondered the same thing... Do people still get the plague? Can't it be treated? Were all those people in the ER plague victims? Was it ever actually decided that it was the plague? It seemed awfully quick for the suit to walk in at the end and say thanks but the outbreak has been contained...
I liked the ep overall, but the whole plague thing seemed contrived and really unnecessary.
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09-22-2006, 02:29 AM
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I'm so happy that my show is back!!! WOOHOOO!!! I only wish I could watch a marathon of new episodes. I started crying again tonight for Izzy and remembered that I'd done the same at the end of last season. She really turned in a top-notch performance with this storyline.
A little disappointed to see 2 guys waiting in the wings for Meredith. She needs some alone time (and not "knitting"). I don't want Chris O'Donell to leave anytime soon, so hope she waits a while or picks him...which would lead to his being hurt, so maybe not. I don't know, I just know that I love, love, love this show and am so glad that they reran that bomb episode on an odd night that I was already watching that station so I could become addicted.
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09-22-2006, 04:09 AM
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Honestly, I was disappointed. It dragged in places and was way too overdramatic (even for Gray's). There wasn't as much snappy dialogue, or humor, and instead there was extra melodramatic music and long pauses.
I thought the Bailey-plague guy scenes were especially bad. Her whole part was really out of character -- usually she's so tough and take-control, but instead of whipping the guy into shape she got all weepy and religious. Just really didn't work for me. And why on earth didn't George and Shepherd treat the patient with plague? They already had been exposed. Instead of helping the guy, they are just sitting around bored quarantined in the next room over while Bailey is whining that nobody can help him b/c of the quarantine? Plus, as someone posted, the plague is really treatable with antiboitics so the whole thing made very little sense.
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09-22-2006, 05:43 AM
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I'm not sure if I could have easily got into this episode if I hadn't watched the recap episode that was shown first. It was pretty well done since it focused on the emotional arcs a little more than the story arcs.
So I'm saying this season premiere was as good as the series premiere, especially the way they interwove the drama of last season's finale', or at least it's aftermath, with the continuation of the character's back stories. Great episode, and it looks like it will be able to avoid a sophomore slump.
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Isn't Bubonic Plague treatable with antibiotics? Why all the scary quarantine stuff?
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Yes, it's treatable, but if it's in someone's lungs, it's extremely contagious. Quarantine is the correct protocol. It only takes a minute on-line to learn that.
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Honestly, I was disappointed. It dragged in places and was way too overdramatic (even for Gray's). There wasn't as much snappy dialogue, or humor, and instead there was extra melodramatic music and long pauses.
I thought the Bailey-plague guy scenes were especially bad. Her whole part was really out of character -- usually she's so tough and take-control, but instead of whipping the guy into shape she got all weepy and religious. Just really didn't work for me. And why on earth didn't George and Shepherd treat the patient with plague? They already had been exposed. Instead of helping the guy, they are just sitting around bored quarantined in the next room over while Bailey is whining that nobody can help him b/c of the quarantine? Plus, as someone posted, the plague is really treatable with antiboitics so the whole thing made very little sense.
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You might remember Bailey just had a baby and almost lost her husband. And last season's finale episode was entitled "Losing my Religion." Everything felt as it should to me.
There was nothing unrealistic about how the quarantine was handled. Just because someone was exposed briefly doesn't mean they should be exposed more.
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09-22-2006, 07:13 AM
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Two things I didn't get....the guy in the white suit outside the plague guy's room - was he just a guard or part of medical staff...shouldn't he have been able to go in and help calm plague guy? And, when you give birth there is a fair amount of bleeding afterwards - shouldn't one of these four girls been having a heavier than normal period? I wouldn't have thought a vaginal exam would have been necessary......
And I was waiting for McDreamy to start the "pick me...pick me...pick me" speech....
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09-22-2006, 07:54 AM
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hmmm, how come I had a clip show last night?
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09-22-2006, 08:17 AM
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There were two episodes of Gray's. The first (8-9 pm EDT) was a recap. The second (9-10 pm EDT) was the season premiere.
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09-22-2006, 08:45 AM
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It was good, but I hated the Denny story line and personally I think it ranks up there as one of the most stupid story arcs ever on TV, so this episode being a continuation of that was bound to not be one of my favorites. I mean, Izzy asking Yang how she would feel if she never saw Burke again? They have an actual relationship! Izzy and Denny probably spent 5 hours togehter before she tried to kill him. If that is how she acts she is crazy and needs to be committed.
I am not sure how they will get her into teh story line, maybe as an orderly as that is probably the only job she can ever get in medicine now.
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09-22-2006, 08:46 AM
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Weird, I don't know how I missed that, I thought for sure that the episode I recorded was the one when CSI was on. I thougtht the new show was coming on tonight instead.
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09-22-2006, 08:52 AM
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The "horrible virus/plague" thing was way too hokey.
Other than that, it was okay, and I like how they filled in some of the backstory.
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I agree that having the breakout was a somewhat contrived plot device.
However, when medical people say "The" plague, they are almost certainly talking about Bubonic Plague, the detection of which still triggers a quarantine. (See balboa dave's post above.)
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09-22-2006, 09:20 AM
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I had to fight my tivo to watch this. It recorded the clip show, but not the new episode. Then I told it to record it when I discovered this about 10 minutes in, and about 40 minutes in it stopped recording! Thankfully I had caught up by then and just watched it live.
The plauge seemed a bit contrived. And they really were bringing out the "dark and twisty" in everyone in the last episode. It was good, but not a great episode. But I tend to think that season premiere's tend not to be as great since they have to spend some time working on catching everyone up on what happened.
And Callie (aka The lady of the lake) is crazy! She admitted it! I just have this whole psycho-stalkery feel about her character. If George breaks up with her (which seems inevitable), I expect we'll see that.
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09-22-2006, 09:26 AM
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And Callie (aka The lady of the lake) is crazy! She admitted it! I just have this whole psycho-stalkery feel about her character. If George breaks up with her (which seems inevitable), I expect we'll see that.
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She may be crazy, but I still like her. At times she seems to be the most believable character on the show (at least to me.)
I loved Christina crying at the end when she went to visit Burke. Maybe she does have a shred of humanity.
I did like McDreamy's speech to Meredith about making right/wrong choices and that he admits he made the wrong choice. However, I am not interested in another season long saga of will she end up with him or won't she.
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09-22-2006, 09:28 AM
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It was an ok episode, also thought the Plague was a bit much.
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09-22-2006, 09:41 AM
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Callie told him she loved him very, very much. Derek looked disappointed McPuppyDog eyes at George for not repeating it.
Derek walks into the kitchen, where Meredith is cleaning dishes. She asks him "What does this mean", and Derek gives her a standard GA angst speech; she has a choice to make, he doesn't want to rush her, he's in love with her (twinkly teeth smile inserted here) ... he re-emphasizes that she needs to take her time to decide, because when he had a decision to make, he chose wrong. Good night, walk out, Meredith looks ... Meredithy.
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I also think that at the very end, the head guy's wife wants to know whether he is going to retire, and he says that he needs time to think it over, since she just brought it up today.
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09-22-2006, 09:59 AM
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It was a rather weak episode for all of the reasons mentioned above. The crap with Dr. Bailey getting all weird was just stupid. She's the ONE character on the show that keeps it together.
There was just too much thrown into this episide. I kept waiting for the kitchen sink to be thrown into the frame.
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09-22-2006, 10:22 AM
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The whole "locking a patient in a room without any medical attention' was STUPID, it just made no sense whatsoever. If they're going to quarantine someone, they'll send doctors in wearing the bunny suits to care for the guy, and they'll have a decontamination area coming out of the quarantine zone. They won't just lock a guy in a room and watch him until he dies.
If there's one thing I liked about the episode, it was the flashbacks to scenes before the series began. The mixer was mentioned in the first episode (George mentioned remembering what Merideth was wearing at the mixer) but I don't think we've seen it yet. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm not a active viewer of the show.
I think what annoyed me most was that 90-95% of the scenes shown in the promos for this episode weren't even from this episode at all, and in fact ruined one of the plot elements. (Addison ending up with Merideth's missing underwear - I think there was supposed to be some 'mystery' there, like "is she going to be mature about it, what is she going to do with them, will she return them, etc" but the promos pretty much revealed what's happening there.) I hate when the promo people think they have to embellish an episode by showing scenes from other episodes - it's bait and switch, if you ask me.
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09-22-2006, 10:49 AM
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Question: Why wasn't Derreck at the mixer? (Not storyline "why" 'cuz that's obvious, but why wouldn't he have been there to meet everyone too?) I guess he could have been too busy working...or maybe he hadn't quite finished his move to Seattle yet?
I thought that the flu/plague thing made sense for quarantine. They didn't start it right away, but were talking about how bad it was and how many people were really sick. What surprised me was that only the guy and the 2 docs seemed to be in quarantine...what about all those other patients? Where were they?
I also think we'll see a return to the old Miranda, but after what she just went through, I believed her character in this one.
My hubby hated the "flashbacks", but I kinda liked them 'cuz they were all scenes that we hadn't seen before (with maybe the exception of one of them, but I can't remember which one it was...I think it was Meredith's, in the bar with Dereck). Very strange to see Addison that way (in her flashback).
I loved the Denny storyline. ;0)
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09-22-2006, 10:52 AM
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I thought the Bailey-plague guy scenes were especially bad. Her whole part was really out of character -- usually she's so tough and take-control, but instead of whipping the guy into shape she got all weepy and religious. Just really didn't work for me.
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I agree. It seemed so out of character for her. I wonder if they had to edit some of her scenes out, because I didn't get the reason she would be behaving like that.
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09-22-2006, 10:57 AM
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I think what annoyed me most was that 90-95% of the scenes shown in the promos for this episode weren't even from this episode at all, and in fact ruined one of the plot elements. (Addison ending up with Merideth's missing underwear - I think there was supposed to be some 'mystery' there, like "is she going to be mature about it, what is she going to do with them, will she return them, etc" but the promos pretty much revealed what's happening there.) I hate when the promo people think they have to embellish an episode by showing scenes from other episodes - it's bait and switch, if you ask me.
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We jumped over to ABC during the middle of the music video/promo. Dunno but it had a lot of spoilers in there imho.
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Question: Why wasn't Derreck at the mixer? (Not storyline "why" 'cuz that's obvious, but why wouldn't he have been there to meet everyone too?) I guess he could have been too busy working...or maybe he hadn't quite finished his move to Seattle yet?
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No idea really. Maybe he hadn't officially started at Seattle Grace yet and hadn't gotten the e-mail about the mixer? 
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09-22-2006, 10:58 AM
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My favorite quote of the show was from Yang to Meredith about doing the McNasty with McDreamy at the prom...."was McDreamy acting all McGuilty..." or something like that.
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09-22-2006, 11:07 AM
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No idea really. Maybe he hadn't officially started at Seattle Grace yet and hadn't gotten the e-mail about the mixer? 
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Doesn't he say to Meredith in the bar that he's starting tomorrow also?
And what a horndog Burke is ... Christina was on the "pay no mind" list while he's drooling over the other hottie, but he was certainly the aggressor when their relationship started later on.
(And yes, Rich is correct that I forgot the scene between the Chief and his wife. She's awesome, by the way  )
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09-22-2006, 11:16 AM
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It was a rather weak episode for all of the reasons mentioned above. The crap with Dr. Bailey getting all weird was just stupid. She's the ONE character on the show that keeps it together.
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I thought her scene with Omar was the one weak part of an otherwise strong episode. It was too long and awkward and deliberately maudlin. That said, I think Bailey's "getting all weird" was entirely believable. She has shown on several occasions that her "nazi" image is both who she is and a total facade. She wasn't breaking down here because of Omar, she was doing it because of Denny, whose death she feels was preventable and should have been prevented by her. She feels like she failed him and, in a way, failed Izzy as well.
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I thought the Bailey-plague guy scenes were especially bad. Her whole part was really out of character -- usually she's so tough and take-control, but instead of whipping the guy into shape she got all weepy and religious. Just really didn't work for me.
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"Whipping the guy into shape"? Omar's potentially got the plague; he's locked in a hospital room; and most importantly, his wife just died and died alone, he feels responsible, and he can't even get to her. And Bailey was supposed to, what, yell at him?
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09-22-2006, 11:24 AM
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I mean, Izzy asking Yang how she would feel if she never saw Burke again? They have an actual relationship! Izzy and Denny probably spent 5 hours togehter before she tried to kill him. If that is how she acts she is crazy and needs to be committed.
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I'm not a big fan of the Denny storyline either, but they spent way more time than 5 hours together. They made mention for a couple episodes how Izzie was spending all of her working time up with him, and even staying with him after her shift was over on some days. Now, obviously it's not like they were together for months and months, but it was more than just a few hours.
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