No Multi-Room View with Series 3?

mathewbeall · 09-12-2006, 07:22 AM

Can someone confirm this? If this is the case, then it is a deal breaker for me. I have 3 Tivo's today (S2) and use the heck out of the multi-room view. I was all ready to upgrade the 3 of them ASAP to the series 3, especially since they have lifetime, and I can transition the service.

I hope that MRV is included out of the chute, otherwise, I will have to hold off on my purchase...

Thanks,

Matt

rainwater · 09-12-2006, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mathewbeall

I hope that MRV is included out of the chute, otherwise, I will have to hold off on my purchase...

Thanks,

Matt

Pretty much every review says its disabled.

megazone · 09-12-2006, 07:28 AM

Confirming that there is no MRV - for the nth time. (I foresee a lot of duplicate threads - hey Dan203, how about stickying the FAQ and Photos threads? ;-) )

aaronwt · 09-12-2006, 07:31 AM

There is no MRV initially, but is it's only disabled right now? Meaning they will implement it at a future date?

megazone · 09-12-2006, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aaronwt

There is no MRV initially, but is it's only disabled right now? Meaning they will implement it at a future date?

They want to, and probably will, but they're evaluating what is permitted under the Cable Labs restrictions.

classicX · 09-12-2006, 07:54 AM

Consider that for the price of Two S3s ($1600), you can buy OR build a Media Center PC (and you can wait for Vista in January or February, which will allow cablecards!!), AND an Xbox360 (as an extender) - and have NO MONTHLY FEES.

A better guide system and more support, upgradeability, and features? It's a no brainer.

And unlike a closed Tivo box, if there's something you don't like about a particular feature, or if it doesn't do something you would like it to, chances are someone will write an app for it, or you can write one yourself.

At this price, it looks like that's the road I'm going to be taking.

classicX · 09-12-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by megazone

They want to, and probably will, but they're evaluating what is permitted under the Cable Labs restrictions.

Unfortunately, $1600* is a lot of money for a "probably."

I find it underhanded that Tivo wouldn't have this plainly on their site, or even at all, as I can't find any info about it. The TivoToGo and the Multi-Room Viewing pages don't even have asterisks saying that the features are not available with a Series3. Did purposefully leave it out or are they just slow on the uptake?

*$1600 for two S3, which would ostensibly be needed for MRV.

TechDreamer · 09-12-2006, 08:08 AM

There are going to be a lot of threads about what the Series 3 does not have, so we better get used to it.

Adam1115 · 09-12-2006, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TechDreamer

There are going to be a lot of threads about what the Series 3 does not have, so we better get used to it.

I'm an IT consultant. I always tell my clients that they should go into technology purchases EXPECTING things to NOT do things they want. NOTHING works right, 100%...

Then you'll be pleasantly surprised instead of constantly disappointed!

As far as the T3, what a technical marvel. TiVo is going to have the first successful STANDALONE HD DVR. WOW, it will surely blow away their competitors, without MRV and TiVo2go, the HR20, vip622 and cableco dvr's have far less features.

Unfortunately for us HR10 owners, once we get 6.3 it's going to be tough to justify the expense, as they will be pretty close in features.

hiddentrout · 09-12-2006, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam1115

I'm an IT consultant. I always tell my clients that they should go into technology purchases EXPECTING things to NOT do things they want.

I guess that works in IT consulting, but it's not the way to market products to consumers.

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Originally Posted by Adam1115

As far as the T3, what a technical marvel. TiVo is going to have the first successful STANDALONE HD DVR. WOW, it will surely blow away their competitors, without MRV and TiVo2go, the HR20, vip622 and cableco dvr's have far less features.

What technically marvelous features do you believe are so compelling..?

You still need content.

If I will consume the majority of my content via cable, I'm going to stick with the 6412, which provides similiar (enough) functionality, via my cableco which, at $10 month lease, would take ~7 years to break even against should I opt for the S3.

If I will consume the majority of my content via OTA, I'd purchase the H10-250, with a minimal DTV sub, for 1/3 the price of the S3.

I'm totally missing the "compelling" portion of this rollout (unless, of course, price is *no matter*)...

Crrink · 09-12-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hiddentrout

I guess that works in IT consulting, but it's not the way to market products to consumers.

What technically marvelous features do you believe are so compelling..?

You still need content.

If I will consume the majority of my content via cable, I'm going to stick with the 6412, which provides similiar (enough) functionality, via my cableco which, at $10 month lease, would take ~7 years to break even against should I opt for the S3.

If I will consume the majority of my content via OTA, I'd purchase the H10-250, with a minimal DTV sub, for 1/3 the price of the S3.

I'm totally missing the "compelling" portion of this rollout (unless, of course, price is *no matter*)...

Pretty much sums up my feelings exactly.
What a bummer, I had already prepped my wife for the potential $1k A/V splurge!

cheer · 09-12-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam1115

I'm an IT consultant. I always tell my clients that they should go into technology purchases EXPECTING things to NOT do things they want. NOTHING works right, 100%...

OUCH! Hope you don't charge too much. I'm not trying to be insulting, but IMO that's terrible advice.

Adam1115 · 09-12-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cheer

OUCH! Hope you don't charge too much. I'm not trying to be insulting, but IMO that's terrible advice.

YOU deal with a completely non-technical user who buys a Dell Computer, a BlackBerry, a Small Business Server who wants admin rights to their own PC, surfs that net blindly clicks yes or ok on everything that pops up without reading it, expects everything to integrate SEAMLESSLY (by itself, with no user interaction or understanding how the technology works), calls me to complain when it doesn't, then complain about how much time it takes ME to make their stuff work together, wondering why it just doesn't work when they turned it on...

THEN explain to me why my my advise is bad..

The point is that, in general, people have unrealistic expectations of technology, and don't feel that they need to spend the time to learn how things work prior to using them..

cheer · 09-12-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam1115

YOU deal with a completely non-technical user who buys a Dell Computer, a BlackBerry, a Small Business Server who wants admin rights to their own PC, surfs that net blindly clicks yes or ok on everything that pops up without reading it, expects everything to integrate SEAMLESSLY (by itself, with no user interaction or understanding how the technology works), calls me to complain when it doesn't, then complain about how much time it takes ME to make their stuff work together, wondering why it just doesn't work when they turned it on...

THEN explain to me why my my advise is bad..

I do. All day long. But there is a HUGE difference between setting realistic expectations and telling people that things won't work as advertised.

Fofer · 09-13-2006, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam1115

YOU deal with a completely non-technical user who buys a Dell Computer, a BlackBerry, a Small Business Server who wants admin rights to their own PC, surfs that net blindly clicks yes or ok on everything that pops up without reading it, expects everything to integrate SEAMLESSLY (by itself, with no user interaction or understanding how the technology works), calls me to complain when it doesn't, then complain about how much time it takes ME to make their stuff work together, wondering why it just doesn't work when they turned it on...

THEN explain to me why my my advise is bad..

The point is that, in general, people have unrealistic expectations of technology, and don't feel that they need to spend the time to learn how things work prior to using them..

I agree with this 100%. I'm an IT consultant as well, and much of the job comes down to, quite simply, managing the clients' expectations. The consumer electronic industry's marketing tells one story, but real life... tells another. And clients need to know, realistically, what they can expect from their technology and what they can't.

NJChris · 09-14-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cheer

I do. All day long. But there is a HUGE difference between setting realistic expectations and telling people that things won't work as advertised.

He didn't say "won't work as advertised". He said don't expect it to work they way they want it to.

But this is silly anyway and going down the wrong road, imho.