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09-06-2006, 03:30 PM
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Myles Standish Proud
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Cincinnati, OH, USA
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Series3 to be $799!
From PVR Blog
If you ask me, this is way too high. Especially since you can't get a lifetime sub any longer.
If you were allowed to transfer a lifetime sub for free, it might be palatable. But a $199 transfer fee from S2 to S3 is ridiculous.
Either charge us an outrageous hardware cost or an outrageous monthly service cost, but not both!
Tivo is pricing itself out of the market...
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Last edited by dolfer : 09-06-2006 at 03:35 PM.
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09-06-2006, 03:31 PM
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If you ask me, you're very late to this party .... 
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09-06-2006, 03:33 PM
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If you ask me, that link doesn't work.
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09-06-2006, 03:33 PM
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Don't Try
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And your link is broken! 
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09-06-2006, 03:36 PM
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holly cr@p!! thanks for the great detective work this will answer many question 
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09-06-2006, 03:38 PM
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Hello? Day Old News? I'm calling on behalf of Dolfer, he'd like to cancel his subscription to your paper. He's going to be taking Behind The Times now. Yeah, thanks a lot. Bubye.
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09-06-2006, 03:38 PM
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Myles Standish Proud
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alright... enough with the sarcasm
i just did a quick scan of the posts and didn't see $799 anywhere. I thought I was breaking the story.
Sorry. I'll do a real search next time before I post.
P.S. I fixed the link!
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09-06-2006, 03:41 PM
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Vegas Boy
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Originally Posted by dolfer
i just did a quick scan of the posts and didn't see $799 anywhere. I thought I was breaking the story.
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You're joking, right? Original $799 thread is still on the front page. It was started a week ago.
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09-06-2006, 03:46 PM
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Don't Try
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The linked story has an interesting comment though... I agree that Tivo really is dropping the ball on this PR campaign, letting all these details leak and not apparently even attempting to break the news themselves. Enough already - let's get an official announcement!!
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09-06-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by etsolow
The linked story has an interesting comment though... I agree that Tivo really is dropping the ball on this PR campaign, letting all these details leak and not apparently even attempting to break the news themselves. Enough already - let's get an official announcement!!
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Unless that is all part of their master plan and the real price will be completely different just to surprise everybody... 
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09-06-2006, 03:54 PM
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Don't Try
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And the promo material that everyone's Tivos have been recording is a decoy too!
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09-06-2006, 04:04 PM
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Drooling over Tivo
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$800 for 25 hours? I don't think so. I'll wait for Weaknees to do better. Maybe I'll have to wait a year for a reasonable price.
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09-06-2006, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ReikiBoy
$800 for 25 hours? I don't think so. I'll wait for Weaknees to do better. Maybe I'll have to wait a year for a reasonable price.
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That is 25 hours of HD i think it is like 2000 of SD ( I could be wrong and am sure someone will correct) + you have the ESATA port
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09-06-2006, 04:16 PM
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bug lover
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Originally Posted by aztivo
That is 25 hours of HD i think it is like 2000 of SD ( I could be wrong and am sure someone will correct) + you have the ESATA port
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300 hours of SD according to TiVo's S3 promotional material.
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09-06-2006, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bierboy
300 hours of SD according to TiVo's S3 promotional material.
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Sorry I had to many 0 I was thinking 200 hours, but 300 is better
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09-06-2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ReikiBoy
$800 for 25 hours? I don't think so. I'll wait for Weaknees to do better. Maybe I'll have to wait a year for a reasonable price.
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For less than $100 you can double that capacity to over 50 hours of HD or 600 hours of SD. Not too shabby and no need to have Weaknees involved. $150-200 and you triple that.
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09-06-2006, 04:32 PM
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I want to believe it's all a smoke screen, but in actuallity my guess is there's about a 15% chance that the $800 rumor is false. Sad but true.
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09-06-2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ReikiBoy
$800 for 25 hours? I don't think so. I'll wait for Weaknees to do better. Maybe I'll have to wait a year for a reasonable price.
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One good thing about the S3 is it has an eSATA port on the back, so you'll be able to double or tripple the storage yourself without even opening the case. All you'll need is an SATA drive and an eSATA enclosure (~$30) and you'll be all set.
Dan
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09-06-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by etsolow
The linked story has an interesting comment though... I agree that Tivo really is dropping the ball on this PR campaign, letting all these details leak and not apparently even attempting to break the news themselves. Enough already - let's get an official announcement!!
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You're kidding, right? Dropping the ball? This is the PR campaign. There has been constant buzz and speculation and leaked tidbits making the blogs and TC for weeks now. TiVo couldn't buy this publicity. Once they issue a press release with the details, it'll hit the wires and the blogs and be over in a day. As it is, we're all worked up in a tizzy, combing through their little video for clues and trying to coax more information out of every source we can find. I expect the next thing we'll get are some more photos and screenshots from an anonymous "beta tester," or one of the bloggers will get access to a unit through a "friend who works at Best Buy," or some other such BS pseudo-leak.
It's fun. Enjoy it.
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09-06-2006, 04:40 PM
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All this talk of xx hours of HD or SD recording time doesn't make much sense. Digital HD varies quite tremendously in size depending on what channel and specific content you are recording on that channel. Digital SD also can vary quite a lot in size according to channel and content. For the SA Tivo's it was pretty clear since the encoding for a particular quality level was constant, but for digital recordings there is no re-encoding and that assumption does not hold. That's why the cable company DVRs cannot tell you accurately how much recording time is left - best you can do is report available space remaining for recordings.
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09-06-2006, 04:48 PM
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What's this about a Series 3? First I've heard of it.
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09-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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I can't explain
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Originally Posted by TiVotion
What's this about a Series 3? First I've heard of it.
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it's the new Dish Network DVR that is not infringing since it can not record off satellite
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09-06-2006, 04:53 PM
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Viva La Tivo!
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Originally Posted by Dan203
One good thing about the S3 is it has an eSATA port on the back, so you'll be able to double or tripple the storage yourself without even opening the case. All you'll need is an SATA drive and an eSATA enclosure (~$30) and you'll be all set.
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Is it possible to add another internal drive to a Series 3 like you can with other Tivo's? Like the kits Weakness sells?
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09-06-2006, 04:54 PM
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Vegas Boy
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Originally Posted by George Cifranci
Is it possible to add another internal drive to a Series 3 like you can with other Tivo's? Like the kits Weakness sells?
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I'm sure we'll find out shortly after people get their hands on one.
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09-06-2006, 04:55 PM
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Is it possible to add another internal drive to a Series 3 like you can with other Tivo's? Like the kits Weakness sells?
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Won't know til we see pictures of the inside, but if it uses an internal SATA drive, the answer is probably no. However, you can use an external eSATA drive array for virtually unlimited capacity.
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09-06-2006, 04:58 PM
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it's the new Dish Network DVR that is not infringing since it can not record off satellite |
Very good! 
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09-06-2006, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TiVotion
What's this about a Series 3? First I've heard of it.
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(You were kidding, right?)
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09-06-2006, 05:01 PM
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Running Fool
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Originally Posted by dolfer
From PVR Blog
If you ask me, this is way too high. Especially since you can't get a lifetime sub any longer.
If you were allowed to transfer a lifetime sub for free, it might be palatable. But a $199 transfer fee from S2 to S3 is ridiculous.
Either charge us an outrageous hardware cost or an outrageous monthly service cost, but not both!
Tivo is pricing itself out of the market...
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YMMV but I'm going to jump on this deal.
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09-06-2006, 05:08 PM
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Viva La Tivo!
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Yup $1000 is expensive when all is said and done. But then again I make decent money, I am single and don't have kids.
Paying $1000 is a bargain in order to be able to dump that piece of crap SA 8300HD DVR from Time Warner.
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09-06-2006, 05:29 PM
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I'm right there with you George. (I'm not technically single, but I'm not married so I don't have to ask before I spend my money) $800 is a lot of money, but I've got it and I'm more then willing to spend it to get something I really want.
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