Series1 DirecTiVo Software Update (3.5.0) Migration Thread - Page 5

dbrem26 · 05-17-2006, 07:53 PM

Since I can't do without the TV and I can't even access the tivo screens without the unit locking up, my SAT-T60 instantcaked 160gb unit has been running (and recording) since the update. Live TV isn't a problem, but if I hit menu or the tivo button, I get the initial tivo screen overlaid on the live tv image and it locks up (can't make the tivo screen advance or disappear and can't shut it off. I have to unplug the unit and power up again. As such, I am assuming, based on the last post, that the kernel update won't save the old existing data and I'll have to start from scratch. I'm OK with that at this stage. I'm even willing to spend the $20 and make it easy on myself by buying a new instantcake ISO. My question is...
Does the current version of the instantcake software have the updated/experimental kernel or are we still waiting for that?

Thanks.

schampio · 05-17-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tivoupgrade

OK, for those who have been following... we've already integrated Todd's new kernel into our LBA48 boot CD and released that.

I had some problems getting S1 DTivo's to mount any partitions with your previous LBA48 v4.0 and v4.0.1 releases and had to rely on the Silicon Dust network driver disk to be able to mount them (and juggling all the LBA48 files onto the PC's local hard disk). Yes, they were large disks over the 137gb boundary but the existing partitions had been allocated under it. The mfsdump/restore pipe I used to move all my shows had no problems getting at the new and old partitions but hand mounts to twiddle a script just wouldn't work. I had NO problems mounting any of my S2 HDVR2's partitions I hacked with the LBA48 v4.0 and v4.01 boot disk. I'm hopeful that the new v4.0.4 I just bought will work on both S1 and S2 platforms. Am I missing a special boot option or mount option on the S1 LBA48 boot disk commands? I've just been using the default no parameter boot.
Finally, the full show copy mfsdump/restore runs about 30 hours and I'd seen some references in another thread somewhere about enabling DMA transfers to bring that number way down. Does your LBA48 4.0.4 disk support that (and what was the magic to enable DMA transfer with your disk)?
Thanks

Blackfoot · 05-18-2006, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schampio

I had some problems getting S1 DTivo's to mount any partitions with your previous LBA48 v4.0 and v4.0.1 releases and had to rely on the Silicon Dust network driver disk to be able to mount them (and juggling all the LBA48 files onto the PC's local hard disk). Yes, they were large disks over the 137gb boundary but the existing partitions had been allocated under it. The mfsdump/restore pipe I used to move all my shows had no problems getting at the new and old partitions but hand mounts to twiddle a script just wouldn't work. I had NO problems mounting any of my S2 HDVR2's partitions I hacked with the LBA48 v4.0 and v4.01 boot disk. I'm hopeful that the new v4.0.4 I just bought will work on both S1 and S2 platforms. Am I missing a special boot option or mount option on the S1 LBA48 boot disk commands? I've just been using the default no parameter boot.
Finally, the full show copy mfsdump/restore runs about 30 hours and I'd seen some references in another thread somewhere about enabling DMA transfers to bring that number way down. Does your LBA48 4.0.4 disk support that (and what was the magic to enable DMA transfer with your disk)?
Thanks

I could be wrong here, but I believe for your S1 unit you need type swap and press enter at the boot prompt.

finer · 05-18-2006, 06:56 PM

I am the newest of newbies. I had PTV ugrade add PTV upgrade to my Sony SAT60 series one an recently I guess because of the new software i can no longer access the tivo via my pc/home network what should I do?

tivoupgrade · 05-18-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackfoot

I could be wrong here, but I believe for your S1 unit you need type swap and press enter at the boot prompt.

That is correct; actually, I'm not sure if you can mount the Series1 partitions at all with the free LBA48 CD, hence the recommendation to use an older free mfstools CD (such as the tiger ISO) in 'swap' or a UBCD in Series1 mode. Also, the Silicon Dust driver CD will work fine, as well.

tivoupgrade · 05-18-2006, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schampio

I had some problems getting S1 DTivo's to mount any partitions with your previous LBA48 v4.0 and v4.0.1 releases and had to rely on the Silicon Dust network driver disk to be able to mount them (and juggling all the LBA48 files onto the PC's local hard disk). Yes, they were large disks over the 137gb boundary but the existing partitions had been allocated under it. The mfsdump/restore pipe I used to move all my shows had no problems getting at the new and old partitions but hand mounts to twiddle a script just wouldn't work. I had NO problems mounting any of my S2 HDVR2's partitions I hacked with the LBA48 v4.0 and v4.01 boot disk. I'm hopeful that the new v4.0.4 I just bought will work on both S1 and S2 platforms. Am I missing a special boot option or mount option on the S1 LBA48 boot disk commands? I've just been using the default no parameter boot.
Finally, the full show copy mfsdump/restore runs about 30 hours and I'd seen some references in another thread somewhere about enabling DMA transfers to bring that number way down. Does your LBA48 4.0.4 disk support that (and what was the magic to enable DMA transfer with your disk)?
Thanks

I wish I could answer your question; I build those kernels for the LBA48 CD a LONG time ago and remember struggling with issues such as DMA and SWAP and ended up in a less than perfect situation. Its been a LONG time since we've revisited the Series1 units and it was never our intention for the LBA48 CD's to be used for anything other than doing mfsrestores (as opposed to mounting Series1 partitions for software installations); this was the impetus behind creating the Universal Boot CD (or just going the free route and doing a CD swap whenever necessary...)

tivoupgrade · 05-18-2006, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finer

I am the newest of newbies. I had PTV ugrade add PTV upgrade to my Sony SAT60 series one an recently I guess because of the new software i can no longer access the tivo via my pc/home network what should I do?

You can always have us take care of it for you. But if you are going the DIY route, please go back to the first post of this thread and follow the recommendations there.

tivoupgrade · 05-18-2006, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbrem26

Since I can't do without the TV and I can't even access the tivo screens without the unit locking up, my SAT-T60 instantcaked 160gb unit has been running (and recording) since the update. Live TV isn't a problem, but if I hit menu or the tivo button, I get the initial tivo screen overlaid on the live tv image and it locks up (can't make the tivo screen advance or disappear and can't shut it off. I have to unplug the unit and power up again. As such, I am assuming, based on the last post, that the kernel update won't save the old existing data and I'll have to start from scratch. I'm OK with that at this stage. I'm even willing to spend the $20 and make it easy on myself by buying a new instantcake ISO. My question is...
Does the current version of the instantcake software have the updated/experimental kernel or are we still waiting for that?

Thanks.

Since your unit has been in operation for some time since the upgrade, you may very well be right. However, there is no harm in grabbing the free LBA48 CD and attempting to use copykern to update your kernel. If your unit still boots up afterwards you'll be able to verify very quickly whether all is well. Do that first, and save yourself $20.

Yes, the new InstantCake has been updated with 3.5. We have decided NOT to prevent upgrades to the software which means if there are any more updates, you'll face this issue again (unless DirecTV, in their infinite wisdom, use a more current kernel).

If you choose to go the networking route, we are now including some extra scripts to give you a chance to suppress the installation of updates; it requires manual intervention, and a telnet prompt. That is a bit off-topic for this thread, however...

adamcap · 05-18-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkbug

I haven't seen this question answered yet on all the forums I read, so here goes - Can you still use the kernel module that unscrambles the recordings and live TV so you can use TyTools to pull the shows off to DVD like I've done for the last 2 years? I'll be real depressed if the answer is no since my Tivo updated before I had a chance to stop it. I had no idea it was coming, and now my shows for the last week are scrambled, so I have to watch them on the TV with my Tivo vs the TV I normally watch them on DVD from

Should this tivoapp patch work with the new 3.5 software and TyTool10r4 to allow shows to be recorded unscrambled? I haven’t been able to get it to work? I have a Sat T60 with an 80gb drive

mount -o remount,rw /
cp /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.orig
cd /tvbin
mv tivoapp tivoapp.tmp
cp tivoapp.tmp tivoapp
chmod 755 tivoapp
echo -ne "\x48\x00\x00\x38" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=4678532
reboot

Someone mentioned a “new” tivoapp patch but I haven’t been able to find it…? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

AC

Blackfoot · 05-20-2006, 03:54 PM

Your offset code is wrong. (seek=xxxxxxx) The 3.1.0c2 codes will not work on 3.5. I don't know if it will hurt when you put them in or not. I did a few weeks back and it did nothing. You can find the new values over on the "other" forums. DDB. Plus this forum should not be used to discuss this topic.

This will help. http://www.<*D*D*B*>.com/forum/showpost.php?p=256645&postcount=109

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamcap

Should this tivoapp patch work with the new 3.5 software and TyTool10r4 to allow shows to be recorded unscrambled? I haven’t been able to get it to work? I have a Sat T60 with an 80gb drive

mount -o remount,rw /
cp /tvbin/tivoapp /tvbin/tivoapp.orig
cd /tvbin
mv tivoapp tivoapp.tmp
cp tivoapp.tmp tivoapp
chmod 755 tivoapp
echo -ne "\x48\x00\x00\x38" | dd conv=notrunc of=tivoapp bs=1 seek=4678532
reboot

Someone mentioned a “new” tivoapp patch but I haven’t been able to find it…? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks,

AC

Blackfoot · 05-20-2006, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tivoupgrade

That is correct; actually, I'm not sure if you can mount the Series1 partitions at all with the free LBA48 CD, hence the recommendation to use an older free mfstools CD (such as the tiger ISO) in 'swap' or a UBCD in Series1 mode. Also, the Silicon Dust driver CD will work fine, as well.

Is there a way to verify if the new kernel was applied or not? I ran copykern at the prompt and went through all the questions. When it got to the point to upgrade the kernel, it said that the /cdrom/s1_.../etc directory/folder was not found or does not exist. It also gave an error when the kernel was trying to be put in. I don't remember exactly, but it had a hex code referenced with it. Needless to say I do not think it worked.

If I were to boot off of the Silicon dust CD, would I just swap out the CD and then run copykern? Sorry for what would seem to be a stupid question, but in the past, I haven't been able to just swap out CD's. The drive would not eject the CD.

john_o · 05-20-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackfoot

Is there a way to verify if the new kernel was applied or not? I ran copykern at the prompt and went through all the questions. When it got to the point to upgrade the kernel, it said that the /cdrom/s1_.../etc directory/folder was not found or does not exist. It also gave an error when the kernel was trying to be put in. I don't remember exactly, but it had a hex code referenced with it. Needless to say I do not think it worked.

I had the same problem -- you have to type mountcd first. Not that there is any error checking in copykern... It blindly goes ahead and claims success even if it has nothing to read from or write to.

Is there a similar trick to get the TiVo HD partitions to mount? I thought the drive was at hdc, but since I am still having replay-reboot issues, I suspect the copykern didn't actually copy the kernel over... (I get a bunch of "need to specify file type" issues when I try mounting the partitions as I do when I boot off of Steve Jenkin's floppy.)

Since I have network once again, can I just slide the 3.1.0+ kernel over via FTP? Where does it live?

cosmictrucker · 05-20-2006, 06:22 PM

After receiving the update a few weeks ago and having issues with it on a 250gig HD, I reinstalled my old version of InstantCake on a fresh 250gig drive and removed the phone line to prevent further updates. I've now learned that the updates are downloaded via the Sat, and my unit was updated even tho the unit was disconnected from the phone line and never connected via Lan Network.

My Sony now refuses to boot and only displays a message stated "unable to boot kernel", or something to that effect.

Is it true the new InstantCake version deals with this new DTV update issue and it's safe to purchase and install on HD > 120gig???

cosmictrucker · 05-22-2006, 11:45 AM

Here is an update:

I pulled an old 120 gig drive off the self and installed my old/current version of InstantCake on it. All went well with the install. Within 24 hrs, the unit had updated it's self to the new software version 3.5! So far, so good. I see some improvement in the speed of the menu displays, but other than that, nothing really noticeable.

My Sony T60 is still calling out to some mothership on two different "800" numbers as well as the local number I selected. All calls appear to complete OK. 800-531-5602 and 866-709-2073. Does anyone know why my unit is making these 800 calls?

Thanks for the help

tivoupgrade · 05-23-2006, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmictrucker

After receiving the update a few weeks ago and having issues with it on a 250gig HD, I reinstalled my old version of InstantCake on a fresh 250gig drive and removed the phone line to prevent further updates. I've now learned that the updates are downloaded via the Sat, and my unit was updated even tho the unit was disconnected from the phone line and never connected via Lan Network.

My Sony now refuses to boot and only displays a message stated "unable to boot kernel", or something to that effect.

Is it true the new InstantCake version deals with this new DTV update issue and it's safe to purchase and install on HD > 120gig???

Yes, InstantCake has been updated with the "3.1.0+" kernel provided by Todd Miller (and CopyKern has been updated, as well); so its safe to install on > 137GB drives...

Francesco · 05-23-2006, 04:46 PM

Any possibility those of us who purchased UBCD 11b within the last few months will get an courtesy upgrade to UBCD 11c?

imagegeek2 · 05-24-2006, 08:37 AM

Hi,

Newbee here -

What is UBCD and does its version 11c survive an update from this nasty download?

I was running an instantcaked SatT60 with a Cachecard + network interface... And am now hosed.

Thanks,
Dan

tivoupgrade · 05-24-2006, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Francesco

Any possibility those of us who purchased UBCD 11b within the last few months will get an courtesy upgrade to UBCD 11c?

No, but the only differences are available for free in the updated LBA48 CD!

tivoupgrade · 05-24-2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagegeek2

Hi,

Newbee here -

What is UBCD and does its version 11c survive an update from this nasty download?

I was running an instantcaked SatT60 with a Cachecard + network interface... And am now hosed.

Thanks,
Dan

The UBCD is not really a "newbie" tool, but it does contain everything you need to do a full DIY upgrade of your TiVo, as long as your are following any of the popular guides.

As for your current configuration and the results of the 3.5 upgrade - head up to the first post of this thread for information and links to tools which can be used to remedy the situation.

No reason why you can't reuse your existing InstantCake CD, allow your unit to upgrade and then reinstall the network drivers and LBA48 kernel using the free CD's referenced in this thread.

imagegeek2 · 05-24-2006, 11:10 PM

Cool. Thanks!

I'm not really a newbee user - I've been using/programming Linux since '93. And Sun/HP *nixes since '85. Dec VAX/VMS/, PDP11/RSX etc before that so I do grok the kernel thingy.

maerativo · 06-01-2006, 11:21 AM

I hacked/upgraded my Sony SAT-T60 a year ago with a Seagate 300 GB drive using InstantCake. I came back from vacation to find my DVR acting out strange behavior.

I hit the underground to find out that a new software upgrade had happened while I was away.

One morning about a week ago I awoke to the DVR in a power-up loop that included a third screen in GREEN that stated "A serious error had occured" Do not unplug or turn off the unit for 3 hours. The DVR never recovered. I pulled the 300 GB HDD out and re-installed my copy of InstantCake from a year ago. Re-installed the HDD into the DVR and power it up. The DVR booted and had all my channels, of course I lost all my recordings. During the first night the DVR downloaded the new v3.5 software from DTV and installed it. I checked the DVR and the System Information showed that the v3.5 software was indeed active and that I had 284 hours of recording available.

Is this possible? Does the 3.5 version recognize the larger drive?

I've had no problems with the DVR, of couse I don't have a lot of hours of recording yet!
Will I have to pull the HDD and upgrade the kernel with the new LBA48 support from InstantCake?

tivoupgrade · 06-01-2006, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerativo

I hacked/upgraded my Sony SAT-T60 a year ago with a Seagate 300 GB drive using InstantCake. I came back from vacation to find my DVR acting out strange behavior.

I hit the underground to find out that a new software upgrade had happened while I was away.

One morning about a week ago I awoke to the DVR in a power-up loop that included a third screen in GREEN that stated "A serious error had occured" Do not unplug or turn off the unit for 3 hours. The DVR never recovered. I pulled the 300 GB HDD out and re-installed my copy of InstantCake from a year ago. Re-installed the HDD into the DVR and power it up. The DVR booted and had all my channels, of course I lost all my recordings. During the first night the DVR downloaded the new v3.5 software from DTV and installed it. I checked the DVR and the System Information showed that the v3.5 software was indeed active and that I had 284 hours of recording available.

Is this possible? Does the 3.5 version recognize the larger drive?

I've had no problems with the DVR, of couse I don't have a lot of hours of recording yet!
Will I have to pull the HDD and upgrade the kernel with the new LBA48 support from InstantCake?

Take a look at the first post in this thread. You may be able to just pull your drive, and update the kernel, do a killinitrd and go about your business. It may also appear to work fine, but require a "clear and delete everything" if some of the programming got corrupt. Alternatively, you could reinstall InstantCake, let your unit reupdate to 3.5, then attempt the aforementioned process right away. And lastly, if that doesn't work, or if its too much of a pain, you could use the updated version of InstantCake as a last resort.

maerativo · 06-02-2006, 12:46 AM

Well as luck would have it, I started having problems with my SAT-60. I was watching a recorded show when all of a sudden it rebooted, going through the power up routine. So I'm not going to mess around with this pain in the you-know-what. Time to go to the next upgrade from PTV. You can spend gobs of hours playing with this, its just not worth the time versus the money to correct the problem!

turbodog · 06-02-2006, 12:56 AM

My DTiVo has successfully upgraded to v3.5, but I'm no longer able to access the box via Airnet. I reset the Airnet settings to what they should be (using the instructions at steveconrad-co-uk-tivo-airnet.html), but I can't ping the TiVo.

Prior to the v3.5 update it worked fine. I also tried DHCP and different IP addresses, but neither of those worked. Also, the wifi card worked A-OK in a laptop on my wireless net.

At this point I've tried everything I could think of. Any suggestions on what to try next?

maerativo · 06-02-2006, 06:41 PM

Question? When upgrading the kernel with the PTV UBCD-11 which kernel is the right one to install on a SAT-60? It lists options of a 3.1.0 and a 3.1.0+ what is the difference between the two kernels?

danmcd · 06-02-2006, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maerativo

Question? When upgrading the kernel with the PTV UBCD-11 which kernel is the right one to install on a SAT-60? It lists options of a 3.1.0 and a 3.1.0+ what is the difference between the two kernels?

Assuming you've been bitten by the 3.5.0 software upgrade, put 3.1.0+ on. It's 3.1.0 + enough hacks to make it work with the rest of the 3.5.0 upgrade that isn't kernel per se.

I saw in another thread that TiVo finally published the relevant 3.5.0 kernel sources per the GPL. I wonder if we need to zap our boxes again?

maerativo · 06-02-2006, 08:19 PM

I'm in the process of completely re-formating my Seagate 300 GB HDD from the first encounter with V3.5 upgrade. I started having problems with newly recorded programs yesterday. I tried installing the new kernel 3.1.0+ on the upgraded software but the DVR crashed. I rebooted it and it started hanging up on TiVo button activation, just sitting there doing nothing. Soooo, I'm starting over. Question: Do I have to use the "killinitrd" command when installing the PTV UBCD-11 upgrade on a SAT-60 with no networking?

maerativo · 06-05-2006, 02:58 PM

I've finally succeeded in getting my SAT-60 up and running with v3.5 and a 300GB HDD. I had to start completely over with an old copy of PTV upgrade for v3.1.0 and wait for my SAT-60 to download and install the v3.5 software. Pulled the HDD before it had recorded anything new (I lost all my old recordings when I reformatted my HDD) and installed the new kernel 3.1.0+ using PTV's downloaded ISO ($19.95) and reinstalled the HDD into my SAT-60 two days ago. It's working perfectly and recording/playing back like its old self. Thanks for all the help and advice. It's much appreciated!

master cylinder · 06-09-2006, 10:28 PM

Ok, got bit by the 3.5 on the sat t-60 with 160gb drive

.

I thought I would start with a clean system so I bought the NEW cake, started the Jenkins hacks ( yeah, I like instructions - I can read, and follow directions, sometimes ), got as far as installing telnet and then powering up the box when I got the Green Screen Of DEATH!!!!

OMG !!!

What is going on? The receiver is going to heal itself ? Cmon I've been in the IT industry for 20 years and have never found one of these self repair things to EVER work.

Any clues out there? Yeah, I don't know this linus stuff that well.

Thanks for reading the rant - I feel better now.

master cylinder · 06-10-2006, 12:06 AM

update 2 hours later:

It finally came back to life, " IT'S ALIVE!! ITS ALIVE!! but wait........

Now the doggone thing is rebooting every 30 minutes !

Damn, I hate being right all the time.