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04-06-2006, 03:13 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tulsa, OK
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DTivo convertable to Tivo?
I am being forced to return to Cable. my new landlord won't allow me to install a dish so my DTivo is now a paperweight
i'm guessing that I could reformat the drive and install a different version of the Tivo software. Would it work with a Cable box? What version would anyone suggest? and would I have to subscribe to Tivo directly as well?
I guess i could just get the DVR that Adelphia is offering... but why do that when i can spend hours dinking around with my DTivo?
derek
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04-06-2006, 06:12 AM
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Unique proportions
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Portland, OR
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Sorry, it can't be done. The DTiVo boxes lack the necessary hardware to work with any source other than DirecTV. They record the already-encoded MPEG stream beamed from the DTV satellite, so they don't have MPEG encoders, a crucial component of a standalone TiVo.
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As usual, I agree with Robin on almost everything.
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04-06-2006, 07:07 AM
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Now with added dalf
Join Date: Jun 2001
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If I had a dollar for every time..........
As David said, no. It's a D* receiver, not a TiVo. It just happens to have TiVo software driving the DVR.
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04-06-2006, 07:18 AM
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Location: New Jersey
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You might want to review the FCC regulations regarding your right to put up a dish. Your landlord might not have a say in the matter, depending on the structure.
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04-06-2006, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by dtremain
You might want to review the FCC regulations regarding your right to put up a dish. Your landlord might not have a say in the matter, depending on the structure.
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Try here, click on links at bottom of that page for more detailed info... or use Google search for otard and fcc. Also... do you have a correct-facing direction for a dish?
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04-06-2006, 12:07 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: South Florida
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Originally Posted by goony
Try here, click on links at bottom of that page for more detailed info... or use Google search for otard and fcc. Also... do you have a correct-facing direction for a dish?
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 What they said
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04-06-2006, 12:19 PM
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Just hangin'
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Binghamton, NY
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To put it another way.
YOUR LANDLORD CANNOT PREVENT YOU FROM INSTALLING A DISH.
See linked FCC documents. Print it and give to landlord. 
You do have to do it within certain guidelines.
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Jim
Sorry, I had to replace the HR10-250, I now have the HR23-700 and HR24-500!
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04-06-2006, 12:31 PM
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LOAD"*",8,1
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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If I had a dollar for every time someone cites OTARD...
OTARD does NOT guarantee that those in apartments, condominiums, etc. can install a satellite dish.
There is one Q&A that is particularly relevant:
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Q: If I live in a condominium or an apartment building, does this rule apply to me?
A: The rule applies to antenna users who live in a multiple dwelling unit building, such as a condominium or apartment building, if the antenna user has an exclusive use area in which to install the antenna. "Exclusive use" means an area of the property that only you, and persons you permit, may enter and use to the exclusion of other residents. For example, your condominium or apartment may include a balcony, terrace, deck or patio that only you can use, and the rule applies to these areas. The rule does not apply to common areas, such as the roof, the hallways, the walkways or the exterior walls of a condominium or apartment building. Restrictions on antennas installed in these common areas are not covered by the Commission's rule. For example, the rule would not apply to restrictions that prevent drilling through the exterior wall of a condominium or rental unit and thus restrictions may prohibit installation that requires such drilling.
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I am in an apartment with NO "exclusive use" areas. I am on a lower-level apartment with a patio, but the patio in my case is not considered an exclusive use area, since it abuts another apartment.
(Well, also, my apartment faces the wrong direction to get satellite signal, but that's an aside.)
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04-06-2006, 01:57 PM
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Just hangin'
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Binghamton, NY
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That's why I included that qualifier about "certain guidelines".
However, landlords need to be told that they can't just make those kind of rules.
If the tenant has an exclusive area (and line of sight), then OTARD does indeed allow for the installation of a dish.
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Sorry, I had to replace the HR10-250, I now have the HR23-700 and HR24-500!
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04-06-2006, 02:49 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Sure, provided you don't mount to or alter their property in any way (unless they agree). I hid a dish on the roof (top story apt.) for several months until someone noticed it (you really had to go out of your way to see it).
It was on a piece of plywood painted to match the roof color, etc. just out of my window. After they told me very nicely "NO" I took it down (why do apt. managers treat their clients like inmates?) and siliconed in a sheet of plexiglass on a south facing window and used the flat dbs antenna on a tripod behind it. Only about 60% signal, but good to go until I moved out of that hell hole. So, don't give up if you have a south facing hole in the wall of some type
Worst case, put the DTivo on ebay and enjoy some of the new features (and cost) of the SA Tivo (HMO, MRV, etc.).
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