South Park: S10E3 OAD: week of 4/5/2006 "Cartoon Wars" *spoilers*

terpfan1980 · 04-06-2006, 12:49 AM

Is there really a fued going on between the South Park guys and Family Guy team?

Such would seem to be the case after tonite's episode of South Park.

But then again, hmm, I saw elements of the Terminator movies, flashbacks in South Park land to the "who is Cartman's dad?" episode (depending on what happens ....), somewhat current events in the Muslim cartoon, and great swipes at the Fox network. Oh, I shouldn't forget the whole point about freedom of speech versus religious zealots that might be offended by such speech.

The whole head in the sand solution, just plain stupid...

Nice to see that Cartman really hadn't changed though

terpfan1980 · 04-06-2006, 12:53 AM

BTW, since *I* created this thread, I deem that only running commentary may be accepted in replies.

(J/K, but hope some folks enjoy the irony of such silly statements...

)

It's TV, discuss as you see fit and just plain have fun.

vikingguy · 04-06-2006, 01:46 AM

I could be off base but the whole pulling of the episode over religous reasons another shot at cruise and the scientologists for getting "trapped in the closet" pulled? It was an enjoyable episode the chase scene and the bury the heads in the sand got a good laugh from me.

hairyblue · 04-06-2006, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vikingguy

I could be off base but the whole pulling of the episode over religous reasons another shot at cruise and the scientologists for getting "trapped in the closet" pulled?

Yea, that is what it was. Seems they are still angry over some people having the power to pull one of their shows. They made good points.

I really liked the show. Funny stuff.

Hairy

bigcb37 · 04-06-2006, 08:38 AM

Great show. It worked on so many levels. There was the shots at the networks for censorship, and pulling shows, a nod to Chef/Issac Hayes quitting (when Stan explined why he changed his mind he said he got sound advice from an old freind) and also poked fun at Family Guy.

I dont think there is any feud between SP and FG. I think SP makes fun of everyone. In this episode Cartman is the only one who doesnt like FG and its just because he is compared to them (ie SP doesnt like being compared to FG) so he then explains the difference in the comedy and writing on each show.

The only reason people compare them is because they are both controversial cartoons...

Figaro · 04-06-2006, 09:06 AM

I think there may actually be a feud of sorts going on. Whether it is a friendly one or not is the question. Both Matt & Trey as well as the Simpsons producers have been quoted bashing Family Guy.

TAsunder · 04-06-2006, 09:42 AM

Whether or not they dislike FG, which I think they do based on the hilarious spoof of it - and boy was it dead on - this episode seemed clearly still about censorship and scientology to me. Good episode. I like how much they are showing the kid-ness of the kids this season.

bigpuma · 04-06-2006, 09:52 AM

What, no mention of the fact that Kyle Tivos FG. They even had the sound effects.

Mamoth · 04-06-2006, 11:11 AM

Along with all the pokes and jabs folks already mentioned, I think it also poked fun at how the Middle East rioted over the cartoon printed by a French newspaper. How silly it was that people took to the streets and riots and killed folks over a cartoon.

TAsunder · 04-06-2006, 12:17 PM

It was a danish paper originally. I didn't get the impression they were making all that much fun of it. Some yes, but not roasting it on an open flame like they normally do. They seemed to be rather sensitive to the subject, in fact, for a south park episode.

MirclMax · 04-06-2006, 01:16 PM

Okay... what were they referencing when Kyle decided to join up with Cartman .. the entire scene seemed like it was taken line for line from something else that I just can't recall at the moment. Anyone?

canyonero! · 04-06-2006, 01:22 PM

Matt and Trey did an interview with Rolling Stone a few issues back, and the Danish cartoons subject was brought up. When they originally saw the riots on the news and heard it was over a cartoon, they thought it was the episode of South Park where Mohammed is a Super Hero.

I liked the episode quite a bit as well. I didn't make the connection to Comedy Central pulling the Bleeding Virgin Mary Statue and Trapped in the Closet until the first commercial break or so. Then it hit me and I loved it. Really liked that they said "or will Comedy Central puss out?" at the end, instead of saying "Fox".

The Family Guy spoof was dead on. I find the show funny as well, but the SP guys' critique was very accurate. If I were Matt, Trey, or any of the writers of South Park, I'd probably a little irked if someone compared my show to Family Guy as well.

TAsunder · 04-06-2006, 01:52 PM

Why be irked? Story aside, they are similar in many ways. It would be like acting offended if close encounters of the third kind were compared to 2001.

canyonero! · 04-06-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TAsunder

Why be irked? Story aside, they are similar in many ways. It would be like acting offended if close encounters of the third kind were compared to 2001.

FWIW, I did qualify it by saying I'd be a "little" irked. I just think Family Guy is a little base, and South Park tries very hard to have their shows be about real things going on in the world.

Of course, I say this 8 days after an episode where many characters spent the whole show smelling their own farts, so...

TAsunder · 04-06-2006, 04:42 PM

Ah, I see the point. I for one think it's harder to make comedy out of nothing than to take something happening in the real world and make fun of it. For this reason I usually don't particularly find myself impressed when comedians make fun of people in the audience.

chewbaccad · 04-06-2006, 05:09 PM

Great episode that worked on so many levels. Lots of stuff already mentioned, but I also found it funny that they kept working in what sounded like the music from Armageddon whenever Cartman and Kyle would grudgingly work together.

dolfer · 04-07-2006, 11:53 AM

Do you really think that there is:

Spoiler:

dolfer · 04-07-2006, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bdowell

Is there really a fued going on between the South Park guys and Family Guy team?

from May 2005

http://www.exclaim.ca/index.asp?layi...d=6&csid1=3880

Look at the question "What's the meanest thing ever said to you before, during or after a gig?"

Actually, I think that the insiders of comedy and animation commonly rip on Family Guy for being too much like The Simpsons, and for its style of humor.

Personally I love Family Guy, South Park, The Simpsons and far too many other shows to mention!

TAsunder · 04-07-2006, 11:58 AM

I also wondered if there will be a part two or not. The way they ended it, "or will comedy central puss out?" made me think maybe there won't be.

TxdoHawk · 04-07-2006, 12:54 PM

I thought it was pretty funny, although certain parts struck me as "wow, the creators must have some built-up venom towards Family Guy". I enjoy both shows personally, though I know a lot of people that watched too much Family Guy and got sick of it. Given the style of humor, I can see that happening.

bruinfan · 04-07-2006, 08:47 PM

This was all Armageddon...

From the music, to the plan where someone gets left behind, to when Kyle won't let Cartman go alone after originally objecting.

"Let's take shelter in the community center... again!!"

DevdogAZ · 04-07-2006, 09:15 PM

I don't think they were bashing Family Guy. Well, maybe a little, but I think mostly they were mimicking the criticism that has been levied against South Park and using FG as the version of SP in their spoof.

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Originally Posted by bdowell

BTW, since *I* created this thread, I deem that only running commentary may be accepted in replies. (J/K, but hope some folks enjoy the irony of such silly statements... )

It's TV, discuss as you see fit and just plain have fun.

heyitscory · 04-09-2006, 03:48 AM

It seemed to be friendly ribbing at Family Guy. They didn't say anything that wasn't true and it showed kind of an understanding and empathy because both shows have had shows pulled due to political pressure.

(Also, it pointed out that those Mohammed cartoons weren't that funny.)

vikingguy · 04-09-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by heyitscory

It seemed to be friendly ribbing at Family Guy. They didn't say anything that wasn't true and it showed kind of an understanding and empathy because both shows have had shows pulled due to political pressure.

(Also, it pointed out that those Mohammed cartoons weren't that funny.)

I agree and the knight rider scene was a damn good spoof it was something you would see in family guy it made me laugh pretty hard.

FauxPas · 04-09-2006, 05:37 PM

Awesome episode. My favorite line: "You unbelievable son of a bitch. You never cared about the Muslim religion, or the safety of people in America... I can't believe I let you scare me into taking your side. You used fear to make me stop believing in free speech."

Agatha Mystery · 04-10-2006, 12:31 AM

My first thought upon hearing the TiVo sounds made me wonder if Matt or Trey visit the forum here.

LordFett · 04-14-2006, 08:19 AM

Part II was good. I really liked how they started it off with the Terrance and Phillip bit. I also liked that there was quite a bit of the show where they were talking about themselves.

I totally forgot about the Virgin Mary episode getting pulled and Mohammed being in the League of Super Best Friends (with Seaman & Swallow). I can't believe that Kyle converted Bart with his gay speech though.

dolfer · 04-14-2006, 09:24 AM

This just in... The image of Mohammed was actually censored by Comedy Central. Just like the rest of you guys, I couldn't tell what was real and was part of the episode!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060413/...ark_muhammad_9

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060414/en_tv_eo/18798

TAsunder · 04-14-2006, 09:44 AM

The way it's worded makes it sound like they didn't censor it, but they said no before the episode was fully fleshed out. Could just be rationalizing there.

ducker · 04-14-2006, 09:46 AM

that's just really sucky... nothing the guys can do but pull the same stunt the manatee's did... stop making episodes. so sorry to see the run end, but that's BS...