SportsNet New York - Will it be on D*?

RMSko · 03-14-2006, 01:06 PM

Does anyone have any information on whether it is likely that D* will work out a deal to carry this station before the beginning of this year's MLB season?

whalerfan · 03-14-2006, 01:10 PM

There have been a few posts both in this forum and dbsforums but I've heard nothing yet. Looking forward to a great Mets season (I hope).

RMSko · 03-14-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by whalerfan

There have been a few posts both in this forum and dbsforums but I've heard nothing yet. Looking forward to a great Mets season (I hope).

Me too, but it won't be too great if we can't watch the games!

TyroneShoes · 03-15-2006, 06:55 AM

Of course they will. 99% of the rest of the world is chomping at the bit to pay for a NYC-centric sports channel peppered with SD shows about fat f*cks playing celebrity poker, especially since they already have at least two of them, East coast SPorts Network HD and East coast SPorts Network HD2. It makes perfect sense that a DBS vendor severely strapped for bandwidth would consider putting on a channel that the rest of the country couldn't give two hammered sh*ts about. Take a deep breath and hold it.

Ivan1670 · 03-15-2006, 07:07 AM

OUCH

hancox · 03-15-2006, 07:10 AM

Oh fine, but god forbid they take away YOUR FSAZ away, and the fury will come, right? Or, am I guessing right that you're not a sports fan at all? Either way, I'll show you where you can stick those 2 "hammered sh*ts"

lutton · 03-15-2006, 08:08 AM

There are two issues involved.

First is the FCC rules (or it might be federal law, but either way

that compell producers to make their signal available. Simply, the rules says that if the producer distributes their feed to outlets (cable providers, etc) via satellite thant hey must make the feed available to the DTH satellite (DirecTV, DISH, etc). Comcast Sports Philly distributes their feed to the various outlet via landline or wireless, which is how they avoid having to make their station available to DirecTV/DISH.

Second is whether the provider--in this case DirecTV--chooses to add the station, which I think they will, because they have a lot of customers in the Mets region.

RMSko · 03-15-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TyroneShoes

Of course they will. 99% of the rest of the world is chomping at the bit to pay for a NYC-centric sports channel peppered with SD shows about fat f*cks playing celebrity poker, especially since they already have at least two of them, East coast SPorts Network HD and East coast SPorts Network HD2. It makes perfect sense that a DBS vendor severely strapped for bandwidth would consider putting on a channel that the rest of the country couldn't give two hammered sh*ts about. Take a deep breath and hold it.

I'm willing to bet that D* does add this channel, at least in SD (I'm not even sure if it's going to be offerred in HD).

jon777 · 03-15-2006, 12:24 PM

Here's their web site. I haven't read anything that indicates that there will be any HD broadcasts imminent. Based on all the local publicity that went on around YES, and the number of people that left Cablevision to go to DTV, when Cablevision didn't initially carry YES, I would imagine that DTV will certainly pick it up. Otherwise they face the same backlash that benefitted them greatly 2 years ago...

cmeinck · 03-16-2006, 03:31 PM

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I haven't read anything that indicates that there will be any HD broadcasts imminent.

My understanding is that it will be broadcast in HD - Comcast is the co-owner of the network if I'm correct. I cannot imagine the Mets launching a non-HD channel when the Yankees have YESHD. I bet D* rotates games on a high 90's channel in the NY area for HD.

drew2k · 03-16-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cmeinck

My understanding is that it will be broadcast in HD - Comcast is the co-owner of the network if I'm correct. I cannot imagine the Mets launching a non-HD channel when the Yankees have YESHD. I bet D* rotates games on a high 90's channel in the NY area for HD.

You're right about the 90's. I sent an email to DTV asking when they will post the MLB Schedule for 2005 and in partciular when the YES-HD schedule would be up, and here's their reply. I was actually surprised at the "depth" of the response, even if it was "canned". (Note: I added the emphaisis below.)

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Dear Mr. XXXXX,

Thanks for writing. I am sorry for any confusion regarding the sports schedule for the MLB Extra Innings package. As soon as we have determined the schedule for any of our sports subscriptions, we post it at DIRECTVSPORTS.com/schedules. If a schedule isn't posted, that means we haven't received it yet from the league(s). The schedule should be available closer to the season start date.

At this time we do not offer the YES Network in HD. However, we often add programming based on customer requests, and I have forwarded your request to our programming department. DIRECTV is committed to providing the best in HDTV programming. To do so, we're in constant discussions with various program providers to increase the number of high definition channels and programs we offer.

Major League Baseball games are available regionally in select markets. These games are shown as our HD broadcast capacity allows. Please check your on-screen guide from channels 94 to 96 a few days prior to game day to see if a Major League Baseball game in HD is available in your area. You may be able to see some Yankees games in HD on these channels.

Please note that due to agreements between the RSNs and Major League Baseball, we are delivering HD feeds of games to customers who live within an RSN’s home area only. Viewers outside of an RSN’s home market who subscribe to MLB EXTRA INNINGS will receive the standard definition feeds of games in the MLB EXTRA INNINGS channels (734-749).

Thanks again for writing and stay tuned to DIRECTV.com for the latest news and information about our services.

Sincerely,

Lance
DIRECTV Customer Service

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Subject: MLB Schedule for 2006

Details: Hi,

When will the MLB Schedule for 2006 be posted? The schedule at http://www.directvsports.com/Package...ings/Schedule/ is still showing only 2005 dates.

I am in the NYC Market and receive Ch. 622 as part of my programming package. In particular, I am interested in YES-HD and the schedule for HD Yankees games.

Thank you.

TyroneShoes · 03-19-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hancox

Oh fine, but god forbid they take away YOUR FSAZ away, and the fury will come, right? Or, am I guessing right that you're not a sports fan at all? Either way, I'll show you where you can stick those 2 "hammered sh*ts"

I am a sports fan, but that's completely beside my point, which is that HD on DBS is not a niche service, and probably won't be for some time. Just one more reason why local cable kicks their ass. Reality bites, doesn't it?

Don't presume for a second that I might be hypocritical. Maybe I am, and maybe I'm not. You don't know me and you haven't earned that right. I'd love it if DTV put up an HD channel with all of my favorite esoteric shows that nobody else watches, but I'm realistic enough to assume that won't happen and I think it's probably bad form to fantasize about it on a forum that is supposed to be about something completely different.

But I guess you have a perfect right to have a chip on your shoulder about the reality of HD on DBS, just like I have a right to be upset if DTV squanders HD bandwidth on limited-appeal channels. Just don't shoot the messenger. And don't forget, there are no hammered sh*ts to stick, because nobody has yet to give them.

I'll go take a Midol if you will

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bosny · 03-30-2006, 05:28 PM

Time is ticking and we are getting cloder to opening day. ANy word yet on coverage on DTV? If I get the baseball package will that show any games or will i be restricted to nationally televised games? I need my METS!!!!!

jon777 · 03-31-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bosny

Time is ticking and we are getting cloder to opening day. ANy word yet on coverage on DTV? If I get the baseball package will that show any games or will i be restricted to nationally televised games? I need my METS!!!!!

Nothing but rumor and speculation. Nothing official yet -- on Mike and the Mad Dog, it was heard that it will be done in time for opening day and on 625. Nothing about HD...

I've seen postings on this on the DirecTV w/ TiVo and Happy Hour forum, the AVS forum and the satellite guys forum, no one has anything official yet...

Anxiously waiting... If they don't pick up the HD feed and show it in the 90s like they do for YES, I'm going to be seriously upset...

hancox · 03-31-2006, 03:18 PM

Satelliteguys.us has a report of it showing up on 625 "upcoming" in the guide At work, so can't verify, but there you go...

jon777 · 03-31-2006, 03:29 PM

Yes, 625 is showing up as RSNa - SportsnetNY. And they just added guide data for Monday's game (nothing before or after, for whatever that's worth). No guide data in the 90s for an HD version of the game...

mheller7 · 03-31-2006, 09:52 PM

Does anyone else have confirmation of this?? I called DirecTV and spoke with a supervisor and checked the DirecTV web site and there is no indication that any deal was done. According to DirecTV negotiations are still ongoing.

jon777 · 04-03-2006, 09:25 AM

The game is in the Guide on Channel 625. However, according to today's papers, no deal is done, discussions are ongoing and they still hoping to get something done in time for the game. My assumptions is that it's in the Guide in case they do get something done and they can just "turn on" the feed...

With 2 1/2 hours left, I'm not optomistic that I'll be seeing the game today...

ElVee · 04-03-2006, 10:52 AM

I'm at work and can't check.

Can anyone who's reading this from home change to channel 625 and tell us if anything is on? Pre-game show? Test pattern? Anything?

If so, can you check the HD channels to see if something is scheduled as well?

Would greatly appreciate it.

Let's go Mets!

jon777 · 04-03-2006, 11:22 AM

Still in the Guide on 625 as "Upcoming" at 1 PM. But just black screen on the station...

Nothing in the 90s for HD.

I'll post an update at 1 PM...

ElVee · 04-03-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jon777

Still in the Guide on 625 as "Upcoming" at 1 PM. But just black screen on the station...

Nothing in the 90s for HD.

I'll post an update at 1 PM...

I forget what HD channel I saw it listed on. I believe it was listed on the same channel as the Dodgers game at 4:00. Maybe channel 94? Anyway, it was listed there last week, but it's gone now. I'd guess if it's on HD it'd be 94.

Who knows?

I wonder how many customers DirecTv gained when Cablevision did this with YES. How many do they expect to lose now? Ridiculous!

jon777 · 04-03-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ElVee

I wonder how many customers DirecTv gained when Cablevision did this with YES. How many do they expect to lose now? Ridiculous!

Agree 100% -- Cablevision got killed (from a PR standpoint, and lost thousands of customers who went to DTV) with the YES fiasco. You would think DTV, being the beneificiary of that backlash would make sure they had something in place. They're getting bashed on the FAN, and of course the reports of people calling the CSRs and getting 10 different stories from 10 CSRs is pretty much par for the course.

As an update, 625 is now showing a DTV logo -- a step up from the Blank screen... still hoping...

ElVee · 04-03-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jon777

Agree 100% -- Cablevision got killed (from a PR standpoint, and lost thousands of customers who went to DTV) with the YES fiasco. You would think DTV, being the beneificiary of that backlash would make sure they had something in place. They're getting bashed on the FAN, and of course the reports of people calling the CSRs and getting 10 different stories from 10 CSRs is pretty much par for the course.

As an update, 625 is now showing a DTV logo -- a step up from the Blank screen... still hoping...

How about channel 94? Anything there?

jon777 · 04-03-2006, 12:06 PM

No love... At 1:04 PM, 94 is blank, 625 is just broadcasting the DTV logo, ESPN (and ESPN HD) is blacked out.

DirecTV

ElVee · 04-03-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jon777

No love... At 1:04 PM, 94 is blank, 625 is just broadcasting the DTV logo, ESPN (and ESPN HD) is blacked out.

DirecTV

I'm a long time DirecTv subscriber (they even sent me a special 'Best Customer' card which was of no use when I called to inquire about this - LOL).

They were so quick to sign YES and now they go down to the wire on SNY. Every article I read said that once Cablevision (the real 'evil empire') signed, everyone else would fall into place. I'm shocked that they're dragging this out.

I'm so tempted to dump the dish. I vowed never to to back to cable, but I need my Mets.

When, oh when will Verizon wire us up for FIOS!

jon777 · 04-03-2006, 12:20 PM

1-2-3 inning for Glavine in the Top of the 1st.

The only thing keeping me with D* right now is my DirecTiVos (including HD). Cablevision would give me the added bonus of the Rangers in HD for the playoffs, but can't go away from my TiVos. Once the series 3 comes out, I'll start looking to move -- hopefully FiOS will be not in Hoboken in the not too distant future.

ElVee · 04-03-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jon777

1-2-3 inning for Glavine in the Top of the 1st.

The only thing keeping me with D* right now is my DirecTiVos (including HD). Cablevision would give me the added bonus of the Rangers in HD for the playoffs, but can't go away from my TiVos. Once the series 3 comes out, I'll start looking to move -- hopefully FiOS will be not in Hoboken in the not too distant future.

Same here. HD-DirecTiVo is what's keeping me for now. I should ask my tenant if she'll let me tap into her Comcast signal.

jon777 · 04-03-2006, 04:53 PM

According to Newsday the deal is DONE!!!

We should have Wednesday's game against the Nationals.

Nothing in the article regarding HD and nothing yet on the Sportsnet site...

SNY, DirecTV reach deal

BY NEIL BEST
Newsday Staff Writer

April 3, 2006, 5:21 PM EDT

SportsNet New York reached a carriage agreement with DirecTV late Monday afternoon, too late for customers of the area's largest satellite TV company to see the Mets' opener on the team's new regional sports network but in time for their next game – Wednesday night against the Nationals.

Officials had expressed optimism for weeks that a deal would be reached in time for Opening Day, but talks dragged on slightly longer than expected, frustrating thousands of fans. DirecTV has about 1 million customers in the metropolitan area.

Dish Network, the other major satellite service, has not reached an agreement with SNY.
Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc.

JimSpence · 04-03-2006, 05:54 PM

Will they do HD like they do with some YES Yankee games?

drew2k · 04-03-2006, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JimSpence

Will they do HD like they do with some YES Yankee games?

Sidetrack: Any idea what the HD channel for YES is? I can't see it in the guide anywhere ... Thanks!