Directv Adult Movie Blackouts

[Boxerbluedog]

Directv tells me that certain adult pay channels are not available in my area. I live in Raleigh NC. Who controls what I can see in the privacy of my own home. I can surf the internet for porn thats way worse than what Directv shows on there adult movies. Other states are able to get these channels with no problem. Seems to me that some sort of lawsuit is in order here. What can I do about this and whom do I talk to. Any Help would be appreciated

Boxerbluedog

[Mikkel_Knight]

Originally Posted by Boxerbluedog

What can I do about this and whom do I talk to. Any Help would be appreciated

Boxerbluedog

1) Vote.
2) Find enough people to vote with you.
3) ...
4) enjoy adult programming.

[rkester]

We have similar blackouts here due to legal issues with the kinds of adult entertainment available and what they contain.

It's most likely due to the state laws regarding what is acceptable to be recieved as a broadcast in your area. Oklahoma doesnt allow anything hardcore to be broadcast and there's no way around it.

[Billy66]

It's your state law. You (and I) live in a state where the citizens have decided that these movies are vulgar and inappropriate. I personally find the law itself to be inappropriate and in contrast with my belief of American principles.

You and I are still in the minority however. It's not a lawsuit that you need, it's a lobby.

[Stanley Rohner]

I've heard some states won't allow people to purchase adult toys.

[dgh]

Originally Posted by Boxerbluedog

I can surf the internet for porn thats way worse than what Directv shows on there adult movies.

In regards to the voting comment, note that some legislators want to "fix" the Internet too. The only thing that's held them back so far is that it's a tougher problem.

[bdlucas]

Originally Posted by Stanley Rohner

I've heard some states won't allow people to purchase adult toys.

What, you mean like Jaguars and expensive golf clubs?

[smoking_rubber]

There is probably no amount of pleading or complaining that will convince them to break any laws. Of course . . . if they THINK you've moved to a different state . . . with different laws . . . hmmmmmmm.

[ebonovic]

Other than "move"... not much you can do..

It is not just state laws, county, and city laws can also kick in.

One of the cities just south of me, forbids it as well.

Do a search on google... not sure of the correct terms, but there are entire websites deidcated to OLD Laws still in effect (technically), that a lot sexual activity, items, ect....

[daperlman]

This is actually pretty interesting... I think it is the same as where the adult video cos won't deliver to. Laws regarding this area vary b/c they are based on community standards. I actually thought that GM and Newscorp had found a way around this... but apparently not.

Trust me DirectTV would be happy to deliver you that content (at 3.50 per hour)

Here is a link to some info about those laws (notes from a documentary I saw about it):
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...n/prosecuting/

[rkester]

I do think its sad and silly that as an adult, someone else gets to tell me what I can or cannot have or watch. Yet, as said above, I can get access to way naughtier stuff on the net without restrictions.

But my state also only sells 3.2% domestic beers (bud, coors, mgd, etc) and has churches everywhere. So...

[dgh]

Originally Posted by rkester

But my state also only sells 3.2% domestic beers...

Now that would make me move.

[rkester]

I can't watch DTV's good adult stuff, yet I can order any kind of adult entertainment I want and have it delivered to my home.

Yeah, makes sense. SOmeone pass me a 3.2% Bud Light please. No wait, I want a 3.2% Corona Light. Yeah.

[sdchrgrboy]

Originally Posted by Boxerbluedog

Directv tells me that certain adult pay channels are not available in my area. I live in Raleigh NC. Who controls what I can see in the privacy of my own home. I can surf the internet for porn thats way worse than what Directv shows on there adult movies. Other states are able to get these channels with no problem. Seems to me that some sort of lawsuit is in order here. What can I do about this and whom do I talk to. Any Help would be appreciated

Boxerbluedog

That's what you get for living in the Bible Belt.

[daperlman]

Originally Posted by rkester

But my state also only sells 3.2% domestic beers (bud, coors, mgd, etc) and has churches everywhere. So...

you would think watering down the beers would make people in these areas less drunk. Yet it never does.

[rkester]

Most imports are full on % alcohol, its just the domestic beers. And you can't get them at a liquor store, and liquorstores here dont sell cold beers.

Sort of like DTV's adult entertainment. its watered down and warm.

[daperlman]

Originally Posted by rkester

Most imports are full on % alcohol, its just the domestic beers. And you can't get them at a liquor store, and liquorstores here dont sell cold beers.

Sort of like DTV's adult entertainment. its watered down and warm.

that no cold beer law is a real kick in the ass. Oh well you are lucky. Aside from being unabled to purchase beer on Sunday, we have virtually no laws to prevent us from getting drunk or aroused. It is a miracle this entire city hasn't gone blind.

[rkester]

I'm sure there is someway to get this programming legit within states that have restrictions but have no idea how.

I remember way back when getting ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX meant using PrimeTime 12 or whatevr it was called and with them, you could tell them you had the DTV in an RV and none of the region restrictions applied. I think anymore they make it the state you bill to/from.

[TheBigDogs]

I don't have much interest in that sort of thing now, but in my pre geezer days I thought it was pretty interesting. If it weren't for porn, VCRs would have never taken off (some business historians claim the failure of betamax was due to Sony's refusal to allow the format to be used for porn).

Without VCRs, DVDs and DVRs would never have made it into public acceptance. i.e.

For the want of a nail, a shoe was lost.
For the want of a shoe, a horse was lost.
For the want of a horse, a rider was lost.
For the want of a rider, a battle was lost.
For the want of a battle, a kingdom was lost.

This is clearly a First Amendment issue (it's not offered indiscriminately to the public and requires special action on the part of the recipient) and may even violate the public accommodations section of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Obviously, no one with the financial resources to finance a First Amendment case would choose to live in a place like this, so your best bet is the ACLU.

You might also want to look into Americans United (www.au.org/site/PageServer) they have done a great job in killing this goofy "Intelligent Design" movement and as a result have some cash.

Whatever, you have my sympathy. Not because of the subject matter but because anytime one of us is denied our rights, all of us suffer.

[Hersheytx]

Originally Posted by Stanley Rohner

I've heard some states won't allow people to purchase adult toys.

This is true. I live in The Colony ...suburb of Dallas. My friend live 200 yards down the street in Plano..suburb of Dallas. but I can not buy adult toys and have them shipped to my address. He can and his zip code is the same as mine. He just lives in a different town....200 yards away!

What a croc.

[tedkunich]

Originally Posted by dgh

Now that would make me move.

That is why I make my own!! made an 11% Imperial Stout once... couple of those and you were done!

[Billy66]

Originally Posted by TheBigDogs

This is clearly a First Amendment issue ....

IANAL, but I don't think it is. There is no law preventing expression of this type. You can possess, create and view these materials in NC. You simply cannot sell them. The right of expression remains fully in tact.

[mitkraft]

Somebody mentioned a "warm beer law". We don't have anything like that but I've always thought gas stations should not be allowed to sell those single cold beers that they then put in the little can sized bags. There can only be one purpose for that: drinking and driving!

About the funny porn laws. We've got one here in Texas that I always thought was a joke till they actually arested a clerk at an adult store here in Houston a few months ago. Mind you these stores sell things that would be inapropriate for me to name or even describe here on TCF. What they aren't supposed to sell however are vibrators/stimulators that are an actual likenes to a penis. With all the things that ARE ok and the fact that you have to be 18 to enter one of these stores I've always thought that was one of the dumbest laws I've ever heard.

[Teraflop]

Hey HERSHEYTX, I live right down the road from you in Frisco, and I can order all of the soft porn that DTV offers, although I only did once just to see what it was like. It is obvious that there are people in this country that think because they perceive something to be obscene, that nobody else should have the opportunity to judge for themselves. There are too many people in this country who think they are way more important than they actually are. Someone should deem something innappropriate that these megalomaniacs enjoy and see if they like it.

[bdlucas]

Originally Posted by daperlman

you would think watering down the beers would make people in these areas less drunk. Yet it never does.

Right - it just makes them fatter because you have to consume more beer for the same buzz.

[bdlucas]

Originally Posted by rkester

I do think its sad and silly that as an adult, someone else gets to tell me what I can or cannot have or watch. Yet, as said above, I can get access to way naughtier stuff on the net without restrictions.

I wouldn't say that too loud. This inconsistency could be eliminated in a way you may not like.

[PittCaleb]

Here in Michigan, and my comments have nothing to do with porn, so I'm hijacking the thread for a minute... The local state rep from our small town has introduced legislation to eliminate the franchise fees and city authority over cable companies.

So people are all outraged. They want the city to get their 5% of cable bills for doing absolutely nothing. But more than that, the people are writing letters to the editor that the local cities will have no control over what's on the service. They're going nuts out here. No one can provide any examples of what Comcast would or would not offer, but lack of local oversight into their programming would be a horrendous loss according to the letters to the editor.

[AbMagFab]

This is government sponsored censorship, plain and simple.

And it's only getting worse, thanks to the dolts in office. Keep electing them, and you can expect more of the bill of rights to get shredded. And thanks to the Supreme Court appointments, they will help ensure this happens for a long time to come, too.

If you really care, stop voting the way roughly 50% of you have been voting.

Us Blue states actually know what we're talking about.

[LlamaLarry]

Has anyone here actually seen Spice HD? I have never even seen it on the Guide under 599 as the DirecTV website indicates. I have all the other porn channels on the Guide, but no Spice HD.

Why porn in HD? Because it is (supposed to be) there.

[ebonovic]

Originally Posted by LlamaLarry

Has anyone here actually seen Spice HD? I have never even seen it on the Guide under 599 as the DirecTV website indicates. I have all the other porn channels on the Guide, but no Spice HD.

Why porn in HD? Because it is (supposed to be) there.

Hmm... It used to be in the 90's... but didn't see it there a few weekends ago, when I actually when to look again.

Guess I will have to check 599.

As a note, when it was in the 90's... it was only available Thursday->Saturday after like 9pm CST