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Old 01-20-2006, 05:57 PM   #151
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Yeah, if you right-click on the file in Windows Explorer, and choose "Properties" and "Summary"-> "advanced", it should say the height and width there. Just divide the height by the width and you'll get the aspect ratio.
Yes, that works. My most recent movie shows 624 by 256 pixels. That divides to 2.4 which doesn't seem to be either 16:9 or 4:3. Something else, I guess?

No mention of codec used in audio section of the properties so I don't know how to solve the audio problem in Windows.
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Old 01-20-2006, 06:31 PM   #152
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Yes, that works. My most recent movie shows 624 by 256 pixels. That divides to 2.4 which doesn't seem to be either 16:9 or 4:3. Something else, I guess?

No mention of codec used in audio section of the properties so I don't know how to solve the audio problem in Windows.
Sounds like 2.35 to 1, which would be a widescreen movie.
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Old 01-20-2006, 07:42 PM   #153
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Success!!!

Following all of the directions, I was able to watch West Wing and House on my TiVo from a torrent d/l. Had no problem with WW (jumped slightly in 2 places) and House's audio was slightly ahead of the video; but when I look at the WMP file, it was slightly ahead there as well... so it would appear to be just a "bad rip".

Amazing - thanks to all for the instructions (and to TiVo for doing GoBack). Wonder if they knew that it was going to be used like this (and is why they aren't saying much about it)?

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efillipi, sorry I can't help you with that one...
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Old 01-20-2006, 11:20 PM   #155
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"NBS" and "FOV" are referring to the group of folks who are doing the captures and encodings which often helps people identify levels of quality when comparing multiple possible downloads.
I have been told this is also a good idea when you're buying used car stereo systems. Some groups of folks capture the entire wiring harness and all the connectors, others simply cut the wires. At the lowest quality, they just yank them out and run, and god knows what you're going to get.

It's always good to be able to identify levels of quality when comparing multiple possible sources.
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Old 01-21-2006, 01:14 PM   #156
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A word of warning: My son downloaded a movie a while ago. We just got a notice from our service provider that the releasing studio has tracked the download to our computer. The letter was one of those sreongly worded, legal "cut it out" forms. They say they haven't released any names yet, but they haven't been asked, either. Therefore, I suggest people use peerguardian, which we have just installed.
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A word of warning: My son downloaded a movie a while ago. We just got a notice from our service provider that the releasing studio has tracked the download to our computer. The letter was one of those sreongly worded, legal "cut it out" forms. They say they haven't released any names yet, but they haven't been asked, either. Therefore, I suggest people use peerguardian, which we have just installed.
Wow. That sucks. Was it really, "a movie" and not many movies?
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Old 01-21-2006, 02:29 PM   #158
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First comment-this is a great and very informative thread. I have read up through around post 90 or so. As I have to leave now, I apologize if this has been asked and answered. Just give me a post # or something if so. e

This is my situation. I downloaded a concert video through utorrent and is now sitting on my hard drive 2.4gb. As I have an HR10-250 as my only Tivo, I believe I have no chance of viewing the video on my Tivo.(Please, Please correct me if this is wrong). I know I can watch it on my PC, but much prefer to watch it on my TV.

So I assume my only choice is to burn it to DVD and play it in my DVDplayer.
I have PowerDVD v.6 and the latest upgrade of Nero 6.

How do I burn what I believe is a MPEG video file from my HD to the DVD-R so I can play it in my home DVD player (Sony DVPNS50 DVD)?
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Old 01-21-2006, 02:46 PM   #159
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Wow. That sucks. Was it really, "a movie" and not many movies?
Yes. I usually download BBC shows, unavailable in the US, through UKNova.com. We have always used Netflix or our local video store to rent anything we wanted to see. Apparently, he and a friend were experimenting one night and downloaded a movie, just to see if they could. It just happened to be from a studio which is actively tracking downloads of their films.

As my dad used to say: When a flock of ducks pass overhead, you just point your rifle at them and pull the trigger, hoping you'll hit one. Today, you turned out to be the duck.
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Old 01-21-2006, 02:54 PM   #160
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Yes. I usually download BBC shows, unavailable in the US, through UKNova.com. We have always used Netflix or our local video store to rent anything we wanted to see. Apparently, he and a friend were experimenting one night and downloaded a movie, just to see if they could. It just happened to be from a studio which is actively tracking downloads of their films.

As my dad used to say: When a flock of ducks pass overhead, you just point your rifle at them and pull the trigger, hoping you'll hit one. Today, you turned out to be the duck.
What was the studio?
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:00 PM   #161
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What was the studio?

Avoiding the mention of any names, let's just say Spielberg, Geffen and Katzenberg are involved.
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:40 PM   #162
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So, Paramount then?
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:47 PM   #163
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Yes. I usually download BBC shows, unavailable in the US, through UKNova.com. We have always used Netflix or our local video store to rent anything we wanted to see. Apparently, he and a friend were experimenting one night and downloaded a movie, just to see if they could. It just happened to be from a studio which is actively tracking downloads of their films.

As my dad used to say: When a flock of ducks pass overhead, you just point your rifle at them and pull the trigger, hoping you'll hit one. Today, you turned out to be the duck.
And the duck who gets hit is an innocent duck who rents or buys the things it wants unless it's not available to it. Oh, maybe the duck occasionally downloads a movie that it could rent at their video store, but the duck does not stop renting other movies. The duck rents as many movies as it can afford to rent, and this is something that the rifle owners will never understand.

There are bad ducks out there who will never pay for anything. But they've been around since the invention of the cassette tape and they will always be around, but they are not costing anyone any money. If those ducks could not get their movies/music for free, they would not go out and buy them. The industry will never get this, they didn't get it when cassettes became widely used, and they will not get it when they have destroyed bittorrent and some other method becomes available.

edit - sorry for the extended duck metaphor.

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Old 01-21-2006, 03:53 PM   #164
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A word of warning: My son downloaded a movie a while ago. We just got a notice from our service provider that the releasing studio has tracked the download to our computer. The letter was one of those sreongly worded, legal "cut it out" forms. They say they haven't released any names yet, but they haven't been asked, either. Therefore, I suggest people use peerguardian, which we have just installed.
I'm sure you know this, but others may not - using Peer Guardian does nothing to stop such warning letters, it does not hide your internet activity, it only makes prosecution difficult if you happen to get sued.
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That sucks keyzersoce

You talk about bad timing on a post.

Any suggestions for my burning question?
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:20 AM   #166
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I have use bittorrnet(for over a 1 year) and NEVER got a call from my ISP(At&t/SBC) to "cut it out" but like keyzersoce dad said one day i may be the duck.
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:45 AM   #167
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A word of warning: My son downloaded a movie a while ago. We just got a notice from our service provider that the releasing studio has tracked the download to our computer. The letter was one of those sreongly worded, legal "cut it out" forms. They say they haven't released any names yet, but they haven't been asked, either. Therefore, I suggest people use peerguardian, which we have just installed.
I would recommend that people out there to seriously look into using Newsgroups to download their movies and TV shows. It's a lot safer and faster. I pay $15 a month for a Newsgroups provider and I download at full speed and 100% without worry. There is a lot more stuff on the Newsgroups then there are on Bittorrent. Although it's a little bit more complicated process to learn then Bittorrent and does require a monthly cost to a Newgroups provider, the speed and peace of mind are worth it.

Here, check out these websites to give you an idea of how to get started with using newsgroups.

http://www.angelfire.com/gundam/newsgroupguide/

http://www.slyck.com/ng.php

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Old 01-22-2006, 10:36 AM   #168
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I would recommend that people out there to seriously look into using Newsgroups to download their movies and TV shows. It's a lot safer and faster. I pay $15 a month for a Newsgroups provider and I download at full speed and 100% without worry. There is a lot more stuff on the Newsgroups then there are on Bittorrent. Although it's a little bit more complicated process to learn then Bittorrent and does require a monthly cost to a Newgroups provider, the speed and peace of mind are worth it.

Here, check out these websites to give you an idea of how to get started with using newsgroups.

http://www.angelfire.com/gundam/newsgroupguide/

http://www.slyck.com/ng.php
Couldn't the movie studios monitor that too? Or are you anonymous when you download something? No way to be tracked?
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Couldn't the movie studios monitor that too? Or are you anonymous when you download something? No way to be tracked?
Not anywhere nearly as easily; the only records that might exist are with the newsgroup provider and the only way they could access them is be working with the newsgroup provider. And there's tens of thousands, if not more, newsgroup providers... and it's voluminous, but possible, to just take newsgroup feeds and then you get most everything which makes it more difficult once more to prove specific interest/use of just one portion of it. And that's assuming the newsgroup provider actually has logging turned on.

P2P protocols communicate with peers, so all a movie studio need do is become a peer within the protocol being monitored and then record IP addresses to identify people who minimally had an interest in a given file; then they technically need to monitor and witness that IP address disseminating some portion of their copyrighted material (which is where SafePeer or PeerGuardian enter the picture by blocking such transfers to large blocks of IP addresses associated with media companies and related groups).
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Old 01-22-2006, 11:01 AM   #170
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Couldn't the movie studios monitor that too? Or are you anonymous when you download something? No way to be tracked?
It would be very difficult for the studios to monitor you on newsgroups. I have not heard one story of anyone being busted for downloading movies from a newsgroup. Unlike Bittorrent, your not downloading or uploading from or to other people. Your downloading from your newsgroup provider. When you download with Bittorrent, other people can see your internet address. This doesn't happen with downloading from the newsgroups. Most of the big newsgroup providers (Newshosting, GigaNews) don't keep any logs or monitor WHAT you download. It's in their best interest not to record or monitor what you download. So, your pretty much anonymous while downloading from newsgroups. Newsgroups are just too large and decentralized to monitor. It's by far the safest way to download.

I know others here use newsgroups. I'm sure they will comfirm all this.

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Old 01-22-2006, 06:27 PM   #171
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Hello,

I recently downlaoded a couple of Stargate eps that I missed, they came down fine as AVI files, when loading into media player I quickly see an error downloading CODEC and then the image plays fine but no audio, I can not tell what Codec might be missing - any advice?

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Probably DIVX or xVid ...

In my short BT history, I believe that some (most?) of the files will show what codec was used in the file's header.
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audi issue

I used DIVX as the player and is showed missing auido tag 8192 aquick search brought me to free-codec.com and low and behold that message means no AC3 filter- 2 mins later a quick download and audio is there
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Not anywhere nearly as easily; the only records that might exist are with the newsgroup provider and the only way they could access them is be working with the newsgroup provider. And there's tens of thousands, if not more, newsgroup providers... and it's voluminous, but possible, to just take newsgroup feeds and then you get most everything which makes it more difficult once more to prove specific interest/use of just one portion of it. And that's assuming the newsgroup provider actually has logging turned on.

P2P protocols communicate with peers, so all a movie studio need do is become a peer within the protocol being monitored and then record IP addresses to identify people who minimally had an interest in a given file; then they technically need to monitor and witness that IP address disseminating some portion of their copyrighted material (which is where SafePeer or PeerGuardian enter the picture by blocking such transfers to large blocks of IP addresses associated with media companies and related groups).
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It would be very difficult for the studios to monitor you on newsgroups. I have not heard one story of anyone being busted for downloading movies from a newsgroup. Unlike Bittorrent, your not downloading or uploading from or to other people. Your downloading from your newsgroup provider. When you download with Bittorrent, other people can see your internet address. This doesn't happen with downloading from the newsgroups. Most of the big newsgroup providers (Newshosting, GigaNews) don't keep any logs or monitor WHAT you download. It's in their best interest not to record or monitor what you download. So, your pretty much anonymous while downloading from newsgroups. Newsgroups are just too large and decentralized to monitor. It's by far the safest way to download.

I know others here use newsgroups. I'm sure they will comfirm all this.
Alright, you guys convinced me to give this a try. Maybe I should start a "walk me through newgroups like I'm a 5 year old" thread, but I read through the guides you posted Malcontent and there are several choices of things, like subsribe to newzbin (costs $0.50) or use a free one (which one?) Also, which news server should I use? I don't anticipate downloaing much, but some plans have limits like 20 gb for $10 a month. That sounds like a lot, but for something like a movie, is it compressed at all like with the avi's with bittorrent or are they full size? If they are like 4 gb, then that's only 5 movies a month. So I don't know how much would be enough.

I guess I'm looking to start off as cheap as possible to just get my feet wet. Thanks for any tips.
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Matt...

Use your ISP's news server for starters. See what their retention limits are... and then decide if it works with what you need... or if you want to go with another service.

It also appears that newzbin is a good service as well (especially if you are used to a bit torrent style of info).

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Alright, you guys convinced me to give this a try. Maybe I should start a "walk me through newgroups like I'm a 5 year old" thread, but I read through the guides you posted Malcontent and there are several choices of things, like subsribe to newzbin (costs $0.50) or use a free one (which one?) Also, which news server should I use? I don't anticipate downloaing much, but some plans have limits like 20 gb for $10 a month. That sounds like a lot, but for something like a movie, is it compressed at all like with the avi's with bittorrent or are they full size? If they are like 4 gb, then that's only 5 movies a month. So I don't know how much would be enough.

I guess I'm looking to start off as cheap as possible to just get my feet wet. Thanks for any tips.
I use www.newshosting.com as my newsgroup provider. I find them reliable and economical. And I would suggest http://www.newzbin.com/ I subscribe to them also.

I would suggest you start off with just the 10gig for $10 from Newshosting. And one month of newzbin.com for $2.00 for one month of service. You will be able to try this out for a month for a total cost of $12. If after a month you like it you can always increase your newshosting.com limit if you need too and can renew newzbin for another month. If this doesn't work out, your only out $12.

You are correct that an average DVD movie is 4 gigs in size. An average 1 hour tv show is around 350 megs in size. If you get the hang of this and like it, I feel that you will most likely would be better off going for the 'Unlimited" plan from Newshosting.com. For $14.95 a month, you can download an unlimited amount of giga bytes a month. I have the unlimited plan. Believe me, just downloading 2 DVD's a month is more then enough to make the $14.95 a month worth it. An average new DVD cost at least $20.

But I suggest you start off slow at first until you get the hang of it. Again, go with the 10 gigs for $10 and one month of Newzbin for $2. You can always upgrade your Newshosting.com plan at any time.

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I use Agent Premium News. They have good retention and just increased their download limits. Their accounts start at $2.95/month for 7 gb. They also make an excellent newsreader called Agent. However I use Newsbin (not Newzbin) for downloading stuff.
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Thanks for the guys about news groups. I'll give it a try tomorrow probably.
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Has anyone heard of anyone getting a letter for downloading an OTA tv show using BitTorrent?
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Has anyone heard of anyone getting a letter for downloading an OTA tv show using BitTorrent?
Not 100% sure, but I just thought it was movies and music.
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