The Office 1/05 - Booze Cruise **SPOILERS**

[Bryanmc]

Man, what a moment with Pam and Jim. That was gut wrenching.

This is two episodes in a row (I think) where Meredith has been shirtless. Gross.

And it doesn't look like she stuck to her New Year's resolution.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Bryanmc

Man, what a moment with Pam and Jim. That was gut wrenching.

This is two episodes in a row (I think) where Meredith has been shirtless. Gross.

And it doesn't look like she stuck to her New Year's resolution.

Well, if the cruise was on a Friday night, it's technically the weekend (her resolution was to "stop drinking...during the week", right?).


Poor Jim, but they had to do something like that if they're going to keep their relationship the same without having them eventually hook up (I'm sure he'll regret telling Michael about his crush).

I also like what they're doing with Dwigt and Angela.

[Chapper1]

I felt really bad for Jim when Roy made his announcement...

I loved what him and Pam did to Dwight's stuff in the beginning, putting it in the vending machine and giving him a bag of nickles...

[JadeWolf07]

Originally Posted by Chapper1

I felt really bad for Jim when Roy made his announcement...

I loved what him and Pam did to Dwight's stuff in the beginning, putting it in the vending machine and giving him a bag of nickles...

Is it just me, or was that a complete ripoff of 'Undeclared'?

[Warren]

Dwight "driveing" the boat was funny!!!

[getbak]

"Michael stands on the front of the boat and says he's the king of the world within the first hour, or I give you my next paycheck."


...Then, Jim points at his watch after Michael does it as they're pulling out of the dock.

[Dignan]

I liked that they used the "Training Day" episode from the original Office and still made it work. My wife commented that Jim and Pam seem to have more chemistry than Pam and Tim, I agree.

But I'm done compairing the original to the American version. Dare I say, at this point I prefer the new one.

I've noticed more and more people talking about this show where I live, from many different walks of life. I'm hoping the new time zone won't kill the momentum.

[jurysch]

I was excited to see the show finally back, but since this was the first episode shown on Thursday night and thus possibly seen by a new audience, I kinda wish it was a strong episode. It was still moderately funny but probably in the bottom 3 episodes of season 2.

I get a little nervous when they get out of the office environment though. They seem to lose a bit of their steam when they don't have the familiar setup of the main cubicle area, break area and Michael's office. And while I know they have to advance the story with Jim and Pam at least a little bit, they were getting a little soap operaish on this latest ep. Plus it's getting a little annoying how Pam can't seem to stand up for herself with Roy...

[jschuur]

Having just seen Undeclared on DVD, I immediately recognized the scene too.

Jim claimed he was broken up with hot handbag girl during the party at his house. Were they on a break, or was he lying? There was a brief second when they were talking about their high school days when I thought Roy would realize he slept with her years ago when she was a cheerleader.

I had to pause the show and scream 'Noooooo!' when Roy went up to the mic. I knew exactly what was coming

Ultimately though, I think this is good for Jim/Pam. Jim finally has an ultimatum before which he has to act.

Bonus points for Michael for saying the smartest thing he's probably ever said ('Engaged? BFD!')

[sonnik]

I've been a big fan of the American version since episode one, I just have rarely commented about it here... but I read most show threads after every new episode.

To be honest, I'm surprised - I figured the general response here would be that it was too sappy. I didn't think so, I just thought that would be the response here.

As long as this show keeps growing, I can almost totally guarantee the chemistry of the cast - Pam and Jim especially - will be remembered as one of the best dynamics television has ever seen long after this show is gone.

[markymark_ctown]

Originally Posted by jurysch

I was excited to see the show finally back, but since this was the first episode shown on Thursday night and thus possibly seen by a new audience, I kinda wish it was a strong episode. It was still moderately funny but probably in the bottom 3 episodes of season 2.

I get a little nervous when they get out of the office environment though. They seem to lose a bit of their steam when they don't have the familiar setup of the main cubicle area, break area and Michael's office. And while I know they have to advance the story with Jim and Pam at least a little bit, they were getting a little soap operaish on this latest ep. Plus it's getting a little annoying how Pam can't seem to stand up for herself with Roy...

i agree - not the strongest episode to to start off the "must see tv" time slot.

[Skittles]

It was a so-so episode right up until the last 7 minutes, then I was hooked. The guys jumping out the window had me in stitches. And I'm sure others will disagree, but I actually liked the fact that despite his ignorance and tackiness, it was Michael Scott who ended up being Jim's rock during his woes. The irony of Michael giving Jim romance advice was just too much, and yet it still served as a fairly poignant moment.

[7thton]

Originally Posted by markymark_ctown

i agree - not the strongest episode to to start off the "must see tv" time slot.

I said that about the season 2 opener....which also took place out of the office.

Why do they go "out" for all the "big" eps?

Bad planning....

[Magister]

Meredith kills me. When Michael mentioned the booze cruise, she was the one that was the most excited.

This was a pretty good episode. I felt bad for Jim, but at least his Cheerleader was hot, he shouldn't have hurt that relationship. You will always do well with other chicks if they already think you are in a relationship.

Single and desperate makes it kinda tough.

[TAsunder]

I like how every once in a while we are surprised by Michael in a good way. First with his sales skills to tim meadows and then again in this episode consoling Jim. That was one of my problems with the british version...

[PJO1966]

This was the first episode I've seen, I had no idea it existed (must be that rock I'm living under). It was pretty damn funny.

[jschuman]

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I thought this episode was great.

I especially enjoyed when Michael was trying to shoehorn his employees into the Gilligan's Island "roles". The Harlem Globetrotter line was great. (Another example of quasi-comedy-intelligence in this show. If only Toby had shown up on time so he could call him a 'Robotic Invincible'.)

[jradford]

Originally Posted by TAsunder

I like how every once in a while we are surprised by Michael in a good way. First with his sales skills to tim meadows and then again in this episode consoling Jim. That was one of my problems with the british version...

I agree. Not having a set season run length, though, makes it a necessity for Michael to be somewhat beneficial to the company.

[Steeler Mike]

His politically incorrectness of the Gilligan Island character assignements were hysterical. The Indian woman was referred to as a native that sometimes comes to the island & Darrell was a Harlem Globetrotter.

And when Michael was talking about Titanic & he said that the boiler room guys were singing their "ethnic songs", so he then said Darrell maybe should be in the boiler room, or something like that.

Pam: "I think you mean The Hunt for Red October."



Edit: DOE! JSchuman types faster than I do.

[Kevdog]

Originally Posted by Skittles

It was a so-so episode right up until the last 7 minutes, then I was hooked. The guys jumping out the window had me in stitches. And I'm sure others will disagree, but I actually liked the fact that despite his ignorance and tackiness, it was Michael Scott who ended up being Jim's rock during his woes. The irony of Michael giving Jim romance advice was just too much, and yet it still served as a fairly poignant moment.

Am I the only one who was surprised that Jim would confide in Michael in the first place?

[canyonero!]

I really liked this episode, especially the last few minutes as Skittles said. I assumed the opening scene with Dwigt's supplies in the vending machine was simply Paul Feig doing a nice Undeclared reference. It was his show too afterall.

Originally Posted by Kevdog

Am I the only one who was surprised that Jim would confide in Michael in the first place?

I just assumed Jim was a little drunk.

[crowfan]

Originally Posted by Kevdog

Am I the only one who was surprised that Jim would confide in Michael in the first place?

I kinda was, but I understood it. I know I've been in situations like that. You know you shouldn't talk to this particular person about it, but you're just so torn up that you have to get it out to someone. You know you'll probably regret it later, but you need that release at that moment.

I thought it was really well done.

[busyba]

Man that was painful. I've been Jim. More that a couple of times. It isn't fun.

It looked like Jim was about to tell Pam (right in front og the cheerleader ) just as Roy took the mike.

Originally Posted by Magister

You will always do well with other chicks if they already think you are in a relationship.

Single and desperate makes it kinda tough.

It takes money to make money. Substituting 'money' with 'women' is equally true (even if you only substitute the second one )

[busyba]

Originally Posted by crowfan

I kinda was, but I understood it. I know I've been in situations like that. You know you shouldn't talk to this particular person about it, but you're just so torn up that you have to get it out to someone. You know you'll probably regret it later, but you need that release at that moment.

Also, we were at that point in the show when we needed the requisite "Michael redeems and humanizes himself so the viewers can go into the next episode with him as a likable character again" moment.

I thought it was really well done.

Nevertheless, I agree.

[padmalinowski]

Originally Posted by Skittles

I actually liked the fact that despite his ignorance and tackiness, it was Michael Scott who ended up being Jim's rock during his woes. The irony of Michael giving Jim romance advice was just too much, and yet it still served as a fairly poignant moment.

And yet Michael's advice was for Jim to be self-serving and destructive, just like every decision Michael makes for himself, so in a weird way it's consistent with the characterization. It was definitely an unexpected moment of depth for this show.

[jrinck]

June 10th is my anniversary, too!

And Michael's romance advice was peppered with "You do know that I made out with Jan?", so he's not that much of a sage.

[Magnolia88]

I am starting to love this show in a way I never thought I would. I'm upset about the loss of AD, but this show is beginning to fill the void very quickly. Earl and Chris are good, but it's The Office that I look forward to most every week, in terms of comedies.

My wife commented that Jim and Pam seem to have more chemistry than Pam and Tim, I agree.

Absolutely. The Office UK is one of my favorite shows of all time, and I never thought I would like this one half as much, but it's coming very close. And Jim and Pam are the main reason. Both actors are stellar and Jim's reaction shots are the funniest part of the entire show. I loved Tim and Dawn, but Jim and Pam are a million times cuter.

And while I don't like Michael as I liked David Brent because Michael is much more of an ass while David was more pathetic and earned more sympathy . . . in this episode I had to applaud Michael when he said "Engaged?? BFD!" His advice was spot on to Jim. I only hope Jim doesn't regret telling Michael later, but I'm thinking Michael is going to end up embarassing Jim about the whole Pam thing.

I still love Pam, but it's hard to understand how she could want to marry that oaf, let alone wait around three years for him to commit. Especially when she spends every day with Jim, who's unbelievably adorable. She has to know that Jim has feelings for her. (I know they have to keep Jim and Pam apart for the story to work, but they need to make her fiance a little more appealing for it to be more believable imho).

[jschuur]

I have a theory about Pam and Roy. Roy actually had the guts to make a move, whereas Jim can't seem to break the friends zone.

Jim has shown time and time again that even when there is a moment, he just stalls. It happened again when the two were on the upper deck on the boat!

[Magnolia88]

Originally Posted by jschuur

Jim has shown time and time again that even when there is a moment, he just stalls. It happened again when the two were on the upper deck on the boat!

That was a great (painful) moment, but I couldn't make up my mind: Is Pam secretly hoping that Jim will finally express his feelings? Or is she saying to herself, "Please, Jim, don't say something that will make things awkward for both of us"? I don't know what Pam wants Jim to do. She's the one who's engaged.

Jim has to give a hint to Pam about his feelings and let her know that if she dumped the oaf, he'd "be there" for her (a la seinfeld), but on the other hand, if Pam rejects him (/a la Tim's "she said no, by the way"), Jim doesn't want things to be awkward for them afterwards since they work together every day. He's in a no win situation there, so I can understand why he just froze up when the moment presented itself.

[JETarpon]

"I'm on medication."
"Really? What?"
"Vomicilain."