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01-05-2006, 07:16 PM
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Tivo Rodent
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Redwood City, CA
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HD TiVo Series 3 @ CES
Posted on www.pvrblog.com and tivolovers.com
check it out...
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01-05-2006, 07:22 PM
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Happy Happy Joy Joy
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Leesburg, VA
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...dear santa....
Yes, you were just here, but I need to ask you for one of these, please!
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01-05-2006, 07:26 PM
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Seems Very Friendly
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: RI
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Poor Megazone, he should have resized his pictures before uploading. His site is getting slammed.
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01-05-2006, 07:51 PM
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I can't explain
Join Date: Jan 2004
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01-05-2006, 08:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Northern Virginia
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<applause>
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01-05-2006, 08:32 PM
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Look 37" sideways
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: We would like you but for the stranding. Do not take risks that you cannot return to the golden glade. Margaret has the encapsulation.
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"Don't be spiteful just because you don't have one.
Don't be spiteful just because you don't have one.
Don't be spiteful just because you don't have one.
Don't be spiteful just be-.....
IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TIPPED OVER A TOASTER!!!.....
Ooops.
Sorry." 
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01-05-2006, 08:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: South Florida
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Color me green with envy.
Now for a firm release date and a price.
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01-05-2006, 09:08 PM
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Look 37" sideways
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: We would like you but for the stranding. Do not take risks that you cannot return to the golden glade. Margaret has the encapsulation.
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Any idea why it's lacking A/V inputs?
Will never be able to work with a separate satellite tuner, for example, or a standard cable box outputting thru RCA lines?
Also, the NTSC tuner...
What do you think? OTA only, or cable ready? (It does have a coax cable input.)
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01-05-2006, 09:08 PM
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Vegas Boy
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Dallas
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Nice.. I assume the pics are of what is essentially the actual product??
Now, we need to know when this will come out.
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Proud to use my TiVo improperly
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01-05-2006, 09:15 PM
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Now in Color!
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Im liking the new User Inerface. Im also digging that front panel thing where it tells you what's recording. Nice touches. Oh and the remote! How cool did that look? They actually made the big circle (arrows) seperate buttons! Good for them!
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01-05-2006, 09:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Boston, MA
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Should we speculate on pricing?
My guess is $799 after $200MIR.
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01-05-2006, 10:04 PM
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Not so Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2002
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$300
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01-05-2006, 10:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
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Now THAT's wishful thinking... the Rumor thread and the pictures thread said someone at the show heard it "slip" that price would be in the $500-$800 neighborhood.
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First on the block to have it, but no longer a fanatic
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01-05-2006, 10:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Denver ish
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Originally Posted by gastrof
Any idea why it's lacking A/V inputs?
Will never be able to work with a separate satellite tuner, for example, or a standard cable box outputting thru RCA lines?
Also, the NTSC tuner...
What do you think? OTA only, or cable ready? (It does have a coax cable input.)
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Because you can buy that right now for $49.. why waste money redeveloping analog into an HD box..? Like people are going to pay a preimium over the $49 analog box for a high end HD TiVo and hook it up to their analog cable or analog sat tv?
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01-05-2006, 10:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Wow, I really really like it! I have been waiting for this for a long time. Can anyone tell I am pumped up?
ps: First Post!
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01-05-2006, 10:27 PM
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I can't explain
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Originally Posted by Adam1115
Because you can buy that right now for $49.. why waste money redeveloping analog into an HD box..? Like people are going to pay a preimium over the $49 analog box for a high end HD TiVo and hook it up to their analog cable or analog sat tv?
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they might for analog cable for dual tuners and large drive with ability to add external drive. Plus no one has seen or put it through the paces of doing HME or TTG etc.. which may be much zippier.
as for sat. yes there I agree why worry about a composite input just for that - buy a series 2 and lobby the Sat company and FCC to get 3rd party access to the digital sat signal.
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01-05-2006, 10:32 PM
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Funkadelic
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Northern Virginia
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Originally Posted by JoeBarbs
Should we speculate on pricing?
My guess is $799 after $200MIR.
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What's the current HD DTV model going for? Are the specs similar? I know we've got ethernet and SATA and a front panel display. Hmmm...
At $400, I'd buy two without a second thought. Anything more than that and I'd buy one.
Of course the choice will be much harder if the Comcast/TiVo unit comes out around the same time... if my choices are $600 upfront or $15/mo to rent from Comcast, I'd probably just rent and deal with whatever limitations there are versus the stand alone model.
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01-05-2006, 10:36 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by davezatz
Of course the choice will be much harder if the Comcast/TiVo unit comes out around the same time... if my choices are $600 upfront or $15/mo to rent from Comcast, I'd probably just rent and deal with whatever limitations there are versus the stand alone model.
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That's been part of the problem with SA boxes all along... and when you get up over $400 it's a harder sell. I can't speak to Comcast, but here in the tristate area they are constantly running promotions so you don't pay any leasing fees for the first year for the boxes, or if you get the primo package, you pay nothing additional for even their best box. People who don't know TiVo don't know what they're missing, so are less likely to shell out $300, let alone $500, $600, $800, which is the biggest part of the battle.
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01-05-2006, 10:46 PM
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Moogs!
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Riverdale, NJ USA
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Awesome, now I can dump DTV when that comes out!
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01-05-2006, 10:50 PM
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Don't Try
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Wisconsin
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w00t!
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01-05-2006, 10:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Now THAT's wishful thinking... the Rumor thread and the pictures thread said someone at the show heard it "slip" that price would be in the $500-$800 neighborhood.
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Wow, $800 is a lot of dough.
Figure I can get the nice dual tuner HD Motorola box (with season pass) from my cable comp for $13.95/month. That means the cost of the Tivo box would cover the cost of renting the cable box for 4.75 years. And that doesn't take into account the Tivo service fee!!!
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01-05-2006, 11:01 PM
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real ultimate power
Join Date: Nov 2002
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Originally Posted by TiVoPhish
People who don't know TiVo don't know what they're missing, so are less likely to shell out $300, let alone $500, $600, $800, which is the biggest part of the battle.
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Don't forget the lifetime sub fee. What's that up to now anyway? It was around 250 when I got my SA.
In any event, if this is coming out anytime soon (next two quarters). And even if it's in the 800 range, I'll be getting one. I've been setting aside the money for it ever since Tivo Ponys original post about it.
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01-05-2006, 11:14 PM
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urban achiever
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oregon
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Yay!!! 
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01-05-2006, 11:16 PM
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Tivo this, punk!
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 250
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Series 3 Schwing
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That's been part of the problem with SA boxes all along... and when you get up over $400 it's a harder sell.
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You have a good point. However, I think that intitially those of us who will gladly shell out $800 for an HD Tivo will be the ones driving sales. Considering how many very expensive HDTV displays have been sold in the last couple of years the numbers should be pretty good. The HDTV snowball is forming and in the next 2-3 years will get pretty big. This unit should bring some new people over to Tivo out of curiosity and the strong feature set. This box will certainly push me over the edge when it comes out and I will buy not only a Series 3 but some beautiful huge flat screen as well since I don't currently have one.
Features I like:
The multiple types of tuners is a great idea and useful. I have seen digital cable here in Austin on Time Warner and honestly it ain't all that great sometimes. Often the ATSC picture is superior. Digital cable sometimes is very compressed looking.
Ethernet - finally and totally necessary with the much heavier file sizes for HD.
HDMI - Boo . . . Yah
External storage - they have been paying attention.
Any word on what HD resolutions it will offer? 1080i I hope?
I wonder what the monthly/lifetime service charges will be? Same or higher?
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01-05-2006, 11:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Silicon Valley, Ca
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Looks great...I even like the small detail touches like adding an aspect button on the remote. MPEG4 playback is great....I also hope that it supports various MPEG4 formats and not just one specific type....I'm assuming the mpeg4 playback will be available for our PC2Tivo transfers, not just the Tivo Ordered content.
I wonder how many hours of HDTV it can record. Guess they'll be various models.
Now, I wonder how many people will hold off on a current Tivo purchase until the Series3 comes out. There have been quite a few companies that have made early product announcements, then hurt their current sales by not delivering it in a timely manner. Hoping for the best. Still trying to hold off on getting the Comcast HD DVR.
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01-05-2006, 11:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Long Island, NY
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Originally Posted by Welshdog
You have a good point. However, I think that intitially those of us who will gladly shell out $800 for an HD Tivo will be the ones driving sales.
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You would hope so, because TiVo has already lost some of those people as they waited for HD TiVo and couldn't wait anymore... I'm one of them (though not totally "lost"). I've got an SA8300HD coming tomorrow and will have X months to fall in love with it until HD TiVo comes out... that's a big risk, especially since I'm paying no additional leasing fee. Even if I were, it would take 5 years to pay for a $600 HD TiVo (not including subscription) and what's the typical life-span of equipment anyway? You don't expect your HD TiVo will get more than 5 years of life, realisitically.
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Considering how many very expensive HDTV displays have been sold in the last couple of years the numbers should be pretty good.
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Big screens are expensive. Smaller tubes are not expensive AT ALL. We were just looking at them tonight and saw HD TVs in the 26" to 32" range from $249 to $799 and everywhere in between (median price around $579 I'd guess) -- that's not much more than what you were paying for a 27" SD Tube 10 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Welshdog
The HDTV snowball is forming and in the next 2-3 years will get pretty big. This unit should bring some new people over to Tivo out of curiosity and the strong feature set. This box will certainly push me over the edge when it comes out and I will buy not only a Series 3 but some beautiful huge flat screen as well since I don't currently have one.
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HOPE you are right... truly. And trust me, the HD TiVo is on my "wishlist" -- just remember the people who don't know better and get whatever their cable company gives them, and they ALL offer DVRs now... even if sucky ones... if you don't know the difference, you won't pay out $600 + subscription fee for theoretically better.
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Features I like:
The multiple types of tuners is a great idea and useful. I have seen digital cable here in Austin on Time Warner and honestly it ain't all that great sometimes. Often the ATSC picture is superior. Digital cable sometimes is very compressed looking.
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Like the option... me personally would probably never use it... but I'm sure die-hard AV guys are gonna.
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Ethernet - finally and totally necessary with the much heavier file sizes for HD.
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Get's my approval too!
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Originally Posted by Welshdog
HDMI - Boo . . . Yah
External storage - they have been paying attention.
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HDMI - neutral
External storage - I agree with you - though the box I'm getting offers that too. Considering their competition is doing it, I really think they had no choice.
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Any word on what HD resolutions it will offer? 1080i I hope?
I wonder what the monthly/lifetime service charges will be? Same or higher?
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1081i is what I read.
I would imagine the subscriptions will stay the same as any other TiVo current price... HD won't matter, neither dual tuner... it's the pushed content and guide data we pay for.
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01-05-2006, 11:40 PM
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TiVoBlog.com
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01-05-2006, 11:56 PM
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TiVo >*
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...I've been setting aside the money for it ever since Tivo Ponys original post about it.
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I'm saving my milk money starting today 
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01-06-2006, 12:01 AM
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