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12-21-2005, 09:33 AM
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Why even use TiVo To Go?
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD. Well, after spending 60 bucks for the wireless adapter, now that I find out I need to buy Sonic My DVD for sixty MORE bucks, then deal with all its ideosyncrasies that I have read about on the boards. Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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12-21-2005, 09:44 AM
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Baad Spellor
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My wireless-b adapter was only $25, and I found a copy of Sonic for something around freeish.
You are forgetting about the reverse as well. I download TV shows and movies, convert them to Tivo, and transfer them to my Tivo to watch them on my big tv instead of my PC. This saves me on the time and cost of burning DVDs. Lastly, I use Tivo-to-go to free up space on my 40 hr tivo and store them on my 160 gig pc harddrive.
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12-21-2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jkalnin
I download TV shows and movies, convert them to Tivo, and transfer them to my Tivo to watch them on my big tv instead of my PC.
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What software do you use for the conversion to TiVo, and what format are the files you are downloading?
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12-21-2005, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD.
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For us the main reason wasto be able to move programs from one DVR tothe other -- MRV.
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12-21-2005, 10:02 AM
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The only thing Iuse it for is clearing out my Tivo when it starts to get full. I simply move it from the 80gb Tivo onto my 200 gig PC, and then when I want to watch the shows, I transfer them back.
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12-21-2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD. Well, after spending 60 bucks for the wireless adapter, now that I find out I need to buy Sonic My DVD for sixty MORE bucks, then deal with all its ideosyncrasies that I have read about on the boards. Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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First of all, some people use TivoToGo to move programs onto their laptops; they can then watch their chosen programs on their laptop screen even when they're miles away from their TiVo.
Secondly, hooking up to the home network enables you to do your daily connection via Internet and it engages all of the new online features (weather, podcasts, games).
Third, Nero works just fine for burning DVDs, with a little extra care and watering.
Fourth, as was mentioned, shop around; wireless adapters can and should be had for less than $60.
Finally, and I just figured this out, BACKUPS. Suddenly your Tivo isn't limited to 40/80 hours, but you can buy as much hard drive capacity as you want for your PC and archive TiVo recordings there for later....
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12-21-2005, 10:08 AM
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[quote=jkalnin]My wireless-b adapter was only $25, and I found a copy of Sonic for something around freeish.QUOTE]
Where can I download a free copy? I already have My DVD v.5 that is useless!
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12-21-2005, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD. ... Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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If I use a dvd recorder to get shows off my tivo no one else can use the tivo during the transfer. (you actually have to play the show on the tivo to record to a dvd recorder)
Using tivo2go, I can download a show and watch something else on the tivo at the same time.
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12-21-2005, 10:30 AM
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Baad Spellor
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Originally Posted by jstr
What software do you use for the conversion to TiVo, and what format are the files you are downloading?
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I am downloading mostly Divx or Xvid encoded avi files from Bit Torrent sites. The software I use to convert these files is fantastic and free:
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/TiVo/
They quickly convert the avi files to mpeg2, and Tivo plays them perfectly.
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12-21-2005, 10:31 AM
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Baad Spellor
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Originally Posted by Jon1
Where can I download a free copy? I already have My DVD v.5 that is useless!
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I can't discuss that here read the post above to get an idea. MyDVD 6.2 is worth the price.
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12-21-2005, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jkalnin
I am downloading mostly Divx or Xvid encoded avi files from Bit Torrent sites. The software I use to convert these files is fantastic and free:
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/TiVo/
They quickly convert the avi files to mpeg2, and Tivo plays them perfectly. |
Thanks for that link. I was just looking for a program to do that.
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12-21-2005, 10:37 AM
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I have a 300 gig hard drive JUST for TTG'ed shows! I have 160 simpsons epsidoes, all family guy eps, all The Office, current seasons of arrested, nip/tuck, and a few more.
This way I can reverse TTG back whenever I want, and w/ orb.com I can watch these shows anywhere, including at work.
So with TTG I turned my 40 hour tivo into like a 300+ hour tivo 
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12-21-2005, 10:41 AM
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TTG is good for archiving any new Fox series so it can be watched in the summer only if the series doesn't get cancelled.
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12-21-2005, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeMar
I have a 300 gig hard drive JUST for TTG'ed shows! I have 160 simpsons epsidoes, all family guy eps, all The Office, current seasons of arrested, nip/tuck, and a few more.
This way I can reverse TTG back whenever I want, and w/ orb.com I can watch these shows anywhere, including at work.
So with TTG I turned my 40 hour tivo into like a 300+ hour tivo |
Yeah thats what I use my 200gig for. Nothing but Tivo stuff. Why modify the Tivo, when a PC works just as well.
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12-21-2005, 11:00 AM
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You can also use Sonic to edit out commercials if you are so inclined. When you burn directly to a DVD recorder, you can't do that (in most instances).
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12-21-2005, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jkalnin
You are forgetting about the reverse as well. I download TV shows and movies, convert them to Tivo, and transfer them to my Tivo to watch them on my big tv instead of my PC.
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Pardon my ignorance, but isn't it easier to to just record the movies and TV shows on TiVo to begin with?
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12-21-2005, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't it easier to to just record the movies and TV shows on TiVo to begin with?
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If everything was shown in the US I'd agree. Despite that there are times when you miss a show.
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12-21-2005, 11:05 AM
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Sure it is!
But it's not so easy to record shows on a tivo that are not aired in the us.
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Yeah that is a tough one. TiVo - Get working on that!
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12-21-2005, 11:07 AM
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Beware of Conky!
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Woops!
Sorry 'bout that Mike. You replied and I deleted at the same time!
nhaigh is a little faster than me!
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12-21-2005, 11:07 AM
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Looks like I beat you too it though
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12-21-2005, 11:10 AM
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Baad Spellor
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Originally Posted by nhaigh
TTG is good for archiving any new Fox series so it can be watched in the summer only if the series doesn't get cancelled.
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It will only get cancelled if it is funny, creative, and original. Using this logic Stacked will be around forever. I will also miss AD. Fox = Idiots
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12-21-2005, 11:10 AM
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If everything was shown in the US I'd agree.
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Well since I don't speak any other languages I guess that doesn't matter to me. Except for the British stuff I suppose...but reruns of Benny Hill are widely available in the States 
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12-21-2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD. Well, after spending 60 bucks for the wireless adapter, now that I find out I need to buy Sonic My DVD for sixty MORE bucks, then deal with all its ideosyncrasies that I have read about on the boards. Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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It works pretty good for the 'to go' part, especially if you move the shows onto a portable player and lets face it is a lot cheaper than the $1.99 or whatever Apple charges to transfer each and every show they sell onto a portable device.
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12-21-2005, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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Better PQ with TivoToGo. With a DVD burner hooked to a Tivo you're adding a whole extra D -> A -> D -> re-encode to MPEG2 step that degrades PQ (like making a copy of a copy).
TivoToGo lets you skip that extra D -> A -> D -> re-encode ...
DVD burner hooked to Tivo:
(Source) A -> D -> MPEG2 Encode -> MPEG2 Decode -> D -> A -> (DVD Recorder) -> D -> MPEG2 Encode -> Burned DVD
TivoToGo to PC and burn:
(Source) A -> D -> MPEG2 Encode -> Digital Transfer -> Transcode if required -> Burned DVD
As noted above ... there are other benefits of TivoToGo.
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12-21-2005, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD. Well, after spending 60 bucks for the wireless adapter, now that I find out I need to buy Sonic My DVD for sixty MORE bucks, then deal with all its ideosyncrasies that I have read about on the boards. Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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There are TONS of reasons why you would want your Tivo on broadband and not dial up
- No phone line needed
- new download content (movies, cnet, rocketboom)
- All the new stuff like yahoo photos, weather, traffic, etc
- TTG of course
- Podcasts now
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12-21-2005, 11:17 AM
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Well since I don't speak any other languages I guess that doesn't matter to me. Except for the British stuff I suppose...but reruns of Benny Hill are widely available in the States |
Yes, mostly British. You won't however find Benny Hill on British TV, not since the 70's. I do vaguely remember it from my childhood though. I've always been amused that people think that Benny Hill typifies British humour. I don't know anyone British that finds it funny.
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12-21-2005, 11:21 AM
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Well since I don't speak any other languages I guess that doesn't matter to me. Except for the British stuff I suppose...but reruns of Benny Hill are widely available in the States |
Well, I guess I can see your point. If you don't want to save the overflow from your tivo when it fills, and you don't mind not being able to use your tivo during the transfer to dvd, and you never want to push video back to your tivo, and you don't mind not being able to edit your video before you make a dvd out of it, I guess it may be wiser for you just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to your tivo.
It's not the way I would do it, but each to his own, eh?
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12-21-2005, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon1
I just set up my TiVo to my wireless network. Which is kinda neat. BUT--I assume the primary reason for people to do this is to download shows from TiVo and record them to DVD. Well, after spending 60 bucks for the wireless adapter, now that I find out I need to buy Sonic My DVD for sixty MORE bucks, then deal with all its ideosyncrasies that I have read about on the boards. Wouldn't it be wiser just to spend a few more bucks and buy a DVD recorder and hook it directly to TiVo? Just wondering if this revelation has dawned on anyone else...
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Hmm, I just got back from Lunch where I watched a "Lost" and "The Office" Christmas Party episode on my smartphone. Since it is my day to cover for others that are out and anyone that would contact them is out as well - having the shows to watch at lunch was great. I used wired adapters that cost 25$ and if you scout around the HME/TTG forum here you will find many creative ways to use the files you get off the TiVo and you saw above the creative way to move shows onto the TiVo.
welcome to the very begining of the end of scheduled cable network shows. Watching shows when and where you want seems to be a bit of a theme around here
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12-21-2005, 11:31 AM
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I have tons of old family video on VHS and 8mm camcorder tapes sitting in a box...can I somehow send them to TiVo to then send to my PC to burn to DVD?
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12-21-2005, 11:34 AM
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Yes, mostly British. You won't however find Benny Hill on British TV, not since the 70's. I do vaguely remember it from my childhood though. I've always been amused that people think that Benny Hill typifies British humour. I don't know anyone British that finds it funny.
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Well, I never thought Monte Python was funny...just plain dumb. IMHO the funniest show in the world is Curb Your Enthusiasm!
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