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12-06-2005, 10:19 PM
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Nip/Tuck 12/6
Holy crap on the ending. Didn't see that coming at all! Otherwise a pretty boring episode.
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12-06-2005, 10:43 PM
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I thought it was the best episode of the season. Also the part at the end with the carver creeped me the heck out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also are they implying that her mom came back to life and she killed her? WOW
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12-06-2005, 11:00 PM
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I figured she was going to do the pillow thing because in the scene when she was talking I could the see the burn patient breathing and I was wondering if they made a mistake. Its apparent they were being realistic. I figured it wasnt her mom. I just thought they would find her somewhere else alive.
So Julia will Julia have a guilt complex knowing she took out somebody else.
I also figured the reason she took the pillow was she knew her vain mother would not want to live like that. However she doesnt know what the other person thought.
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12-06-2005, 11:14 PM
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Totally got me. I was shocked. I thought the Carver might be waiting for Julia, or Matt with the signature Carver smile cut into his smug face, or Sean on his knees!
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12-07-2005, 12:08 AM
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OMG. I cried so bad during this episode when Julia was talking to the Red Sox fan, and then also when Julia was talking to her "mother". I guess having a bad parental relationship with my own mother really socked it home for me.
Best Episode of the Season thus far.
Oh Quentin, what a tangled web we weave.
Who saw that coming?!?
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12-07-2005, 12:13 AM
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Burnt face-print on the pillow case?
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12-07-2005, 06:13 AM
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Read this on tvguide.com. It has to do with the identity of the carver, but does not reveal who it is.
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12-07-2005, 06:32 AM
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I still think the carver is the male police detective.
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12-07-2005, 07:29 AM
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I found this episode to be almost unwatchable. It was worse than E.R. when even E.R. was having one of their totally unbeleivable bus crash/bomb goes off episodes.
I hope this was a one shot deal, and they never try a stunt like this again. Bleh.
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12-07-2005, 07:37 AM
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After the best episode of the season last week, they follow it up with a gimmicky filler show. It didnt progress any of the major plot lines (Carver, Kimber etc...)
In general any show where they focus on Julia, I find to be slow and boring. But this one was the worst. The dialogue between the Red Sox daughter was so forced. Also, having Julia doing all the medical work bothered me for some reason. She took 1 year of med school how many years ago?
Anyways, it looks like things willk get back on course next week judging by the previews.
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12-07-2005, 07:46 AM
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This show ended when Julia came back home and found her mother, right? There was a teaser for next week's previews after that so I deleted it.
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12-07-2005, 08:10 AM
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Man! I really thought (think?) it's Quentin. If you watched the little clip of the Carver talking into the camera after the show last night (I don't think it was the official previews for next week's show, but my TiVo cut off before any other previews were aired so maybe it was) and listened to the cadence and style of the voice (obviously the voice itself was not recognizable), to me it seemed completely obvious it was Quentin talking. Just the way he runs words together, or doesn't, and the pauses and stuff, seemed exactly like the way Quentin talks.
BTW, I called Julia's mother being alive immediately after she heard about the plane crash. Even throughout all the drama of finding her "mom" and the pillow and all of that, I was pretty sure the Mom would turn out not to have been on the plane at all. At first I thought she was not contacting Julia as another stupid "lesson in life", but I guess she just couldn't get through for whatever reason. Makes me wonder yet again: what happened to the invisible daughter?!?!
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12-07-2005, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bigcb37
After the best episode of the season last week, thet follow it up with a gimmicky filler show. It didnt progress any of the major plot lines (Carver, Kimber etc...)
In general any show where they focus on Julia, I find to be slow and boring. But this one was the worst. The dialogue between the Red Sox daughter was so forced. Also, having Julia doing all the medical work bothered me for some reason. She took 1 year of med school how many years ago?
Anyways, it looks like things willk get back on course next week judging by the previews.
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agreed... lame. Not once but twice they pulled the bait and switch with Erica.
And you are right completely off-base... how many times is that anasteisioligist Liz going to be reunited with Mcnamara Troy?
Okay so now it is official, everyone in the world except me has a myspace page... even the Carver.
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12-07-2005, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bigcb37
In general any show where they focus on Julia, I find to be slow and boring. But this one was the worst. The dialogue between the Red Sox daughter was so forced. Also, having Julia doing all the medical work bothered me for some reason. She took 1 year of med school how many years ago?
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Both of those two point irriatated me too. That was a damned bad way to start this episode. The scene with the daughter was so uninteresting I lost interest in the whole episode.
As to whether her mother was on the plane, wouldn't the airline have known whether the woman Julia said was her relative actually boarded the plane or not? I know, I know, it's a TV show, suspension of disbelief and all that, but it seems that would be a pretty easy way to make sure that people how are freaked out need to be freaked out or not. A quick check and a "your loved one was not on this flight."
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12-07-2005, 08:42 AM
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12-07-2005, 08:44 AM
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Okay so now it is official, everyone in the world except me has a myspace page... even the Carver.
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Yeah, people above were mentioning it
Nothing too great on it though
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12-07-2005, 08:50 AM
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I saw it after the episode last night when he/she jumped on to the screen...
Kinda cool....I guess? 
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12-07-2005, 10:11 AM
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Definitely seemed like a filler episode. Didn't like the flashes of Christian seeing Kimber while working on the woman with the pole in her chest - seemed pretty silly and out of place.
Anyone think there's a chance the last scene with Julia's mother was a dream?
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12-07-2005, 10:14 AM
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Anyone think there's a chance the last scene with Julia's mother was a dream?
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Thats what I thought at first, but the more I think about it, the more I don't think it is a dream.
Just think of what Julia will do now that she has let go of her and kinda stood up to her like that. She won't be taking any more crap from her mom anymore.
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12-07-2005, 10:44 AM
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Definitely seemed like a filler episode. Didn't like the flashes of Christian seeing Kimber while working on the woman with the pole in her chest - seemed pretty silly and out of place.
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Fork, but I agree.
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12-07-2005, 11:21 AM
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I thought the ending would show Julia's mother alive, but was hoping for another "wow" ending, and sadly didn't get it.
The past two shows I've noticed Julia's eyes don't look bright and shiny, she looks like she's on drugs or something.
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12-07-2005, 11:24 AM
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I felt the point of the episode might be that Julia is good with a knife and able to kill someone.
Maybe I just saw what I wanted to see...
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12-07-2005, 11:29 AM
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Hmm, well, I enjoyed the episode for the most part, but I agree that it seemed like a filler episode. Nip/Tuck does that though, just when the storylines are clear, they throw in some episode that makes me wonder what is going on, then they jump back to the main plots. I enjoyed watching Julia become the person that her mother always knew she was, I felt that was just poetic justice. And all along I was guessing that her mom wasn't really dead.
The thing wtih her smothering the fried lady though is that Christian said she couldn't be saved, and I doubt that there was much that could have saved her, so smothering her could have been an act of mercy. It gave Julia the chance to act out her fantasy of killing her own mother though and freeing herself.
Okay, I just checked out the Carver website and read some of the blogs. I'm holding firm to my thought that it is not a main character. Under the blogs, the Carver lists themselves as "Gender: Female." Could be a means to throw us off. I'm so glad that its almost over and we will know who it is soon enough!
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12-07-2005, 11:41 AM
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Hmm, well, I enjoyed the episode for the most part, but I agree that it seemed like a filler episode. Nip/Tuck does that though, just when the storylines are clear, they throw in some episode that makes me wonder what is going on, then they jump back to the main plots. I enjoyed watching Julia become the person that her mother always knew she was, I felt that was just poetic justice. And all along I was guessing that her mom wasn't really dead.
The thing wtih her smothering the fried lady though is that Christian said she couldn't be saved, and I doubt that there was much that could have saved her, so smothering her could have been an act of mercy. It gave Julia the chance to act out her fantasy of killing her own mother though and freeing herself.
Okay, I just checked out the Carver website and read some of the blogs. I'm holding firm to my thought that it is not a main character. Under the blogs, the Carver lists themselves as "Gender: Female." Could be a means to throw us off. I'm so glad that its almost over and we will know who it is soon enough!
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12-07-2005, 05:04 PM
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I still believe Ava is the Carver
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12-09-2005, 05:01 AM
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Wow... I missed stuff. Was bored by a Julia-centric episode and was rehanging curtain rods my 2-year-old pulled down while playing hide-and-seek with the drapes during this episode. Needless to say, I have some questions:
1. I completely missed the Carver in this episode. Where/when/how did that happen?
2. I completely missed Julia killing the woman she thought was her mother. Did that happen? I knew she thought her mother had died and then was surprised at the end, but didn't know she euthanized the woman.
Other than that, I'm with those that said "meh" on this filler episode. My thoughts:
How weak is Sean to be at Julia's beck & call all the time? Didn't she just finish a hateful rant a week or so ago where she told Sean she didn't need him anymore... Then he's the first one she calls and comes crying to during a tough time.
If only JULIA were on that plane... Now that'd be the perfect nip/tuck episode (for me).
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12-09-2005, 05:13 AM
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Was the end of the show Julia and her mother? That is when my Tivo stopped but I keep hearing everyone mention the carver at the end.
Also, anyone think Dr. Liz could be the carver?
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12-09-2005, 06:45 AM
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I just started watching the show, and what a time to begin! Not sure what this Carver business is, but that ending was intense.
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12-09-2005, 08:50 AM
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I'm not sure about the Carver thing because it's been asked ten times and none of the people will answer! I'll carve you!!
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12-09-2005, 09:05 AM
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I said to my wife as soon as they showed the plane crash "If Julia's mother turns out to have not taken that earlier flight I'm going to be pissed"....needless to say I was pissed.
I did like the Kimber stuff.
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