hdmi and component output at the same time hr10-250

flmgrip · 11-30-2005, 12:25 PM

will the hr10-250 output the signal at hdmi, component and s-video at the same time or are the other outputs dead when hdmi is used ?

thanks

Guindalf · 11-30-2005, 12:39 PM

Sorry, only one output. The others are dead.

DavidS · 11-30-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Guindalf

Sorry, only one output. The others are dead.

Not quite right. When output is set to 480i (and it must be set to 480i to get anything out of s-video) then both HMDI and s-video or both component and s-video will work at the same time. You cannot use HDMI and companent at the same time, however.

flmgrip · 11-30-2005, 03:30 PM

thanks guys, i guess i have to work with some splitters, adapters and more then...

Guindalf · 11-30-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidS

Not quite right. When output is set to 480i (and it must be set to 480i to get anything out of s-video) then both HMDI and s-video or both component and s-video will work at the same time. You cannot use HDMI and companent at the same time, however.

Oooops, my bad - I was over-simplifying again!

Thanks for putting me right, David.

thepackfan · 11-30-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidS

Not quite right. When output is set to 480i (and it must be set to 480i to get anything out of s-video) then both HMDI and s-video or both component and s-video will work at the same time. You cannot use HDMI and companent at the same time, however.

David,
The HDMI may work on your TV, but, only the component works with my Samsung when I set my HDTIVO to 480i.

DavidS · 11-30-2005, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thepackfan

David,
The HDMI may work on your TV, but, only the component works with my Samsung when I set my HDTIVO to 480i.

HDMI does indeed work at 480i on my TV, a Panny ED plasma. Weird that the Samsung doesn't accept it.

newsposter · 11-30-2005, 08:25 PM

the new mpeg4 HD receiver outputs everything at the same time. Sorry it doesn't help you now.

flmgrip · 12-05-2005, 06:37 PM

so do i have to unplug the HDMI or just have no tv turned on which is pluged into the HDMI to use the component at 480i

Eben · 12-06-2005, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by flmgrip

so do i have to unplug the HDMI or just have no tv turned on which is pluged into the HDMI to use the component at 480i

You have to unplug the HDMI to activate component.

flmgrip · 12-06-2005, 09:42 PM

thanks i guess i go with s-video or composite for the one tv without HDMI... unless there is some way to convert hdmi to component, but that probably will cost some...

garywj · 12-07-2005, 08:19 AM

I recently had my HDMI output fixed on my 10-250 and it works fine. I have discovered that my component-video output is now active at the same time the HDMI is active.

DonQijote · 12-07-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by garywj

I recently had my HDMI output fixed on my 10-250 and it works fine. I have discovered that my component-video output is now active at the same time the HDMI is active.

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Did D* repair your HDMI or was it repaired by a 3rd party?

garywj · 12-08-2005, 08:29 AM

D* does not fix anything. You have to send the whole box back to them and get a replacement. I got he HDMI interface fixed at a 3rd party. I asked D* to replace the HDMI interface but as usual its "their way or the highway". The don't care about losing all your recoded programms.

jantomas · 01-09-2006, 11:24 AM

could you shed some light on what was done to get HDMI and comp. active at the same time. would really help to have this capability

AlanNHou · 01-10-2006, 01:22 PM

I just bought a Samsung 32" LCD and have a H20 HD Receiver. When I pluged in a HDMI cable the only signal that the TV would display was one that was 720P or 1080I. I plugged in a component cable switched the TV to receive that signal and all programming was available. When I switched the TV back to HDMI, it also worked. So if you have a H20 receiver, you can use both at the same time.

A J Ricaud · 01-10-2006, 02:46 PM

A poster advised that his Sony LCD RPTV allowed him to see component when he switched the TV's inputs--no need to physically disconnect HDMI.

My son's Sony 19" LCD TV shuts off HDMI when you turn off the TV, allowing the HD Tivo's component output to remain active.

humbland · 01-26-2006, 04:04 PM

i want to send component from my 10-250 to an ed plasma and at the same time have hdmi hooked up to a front projector. the plasma and the projector won't be in use at the same time. if the projector is turned off (no hdmi handshake will be present), will the 10-250 output a signal via component? or does the hdmi cable have to be physically unplugged from the 10-250?
thanks for the help,
eric

A J Ricaud · 01-26-2006, 05:34 PM

It's hard to tell. Many TVs still tell the HD Tivo that HDMI is hooked up, even when turned off. Try it. If it doesn't work there are some inexpensive manual switchers that will work.

humbland · 01-26-2006, 11:10 PM

can you point me to an inexpensive manual hdmi switch?
also, i have digital audio out via toslink. is that affected by how the hdmi is hooked up?
if a hdmi plug is in the port, will the digital audio out still work?
thanks,
eric

lynesjc · 01-27-2006, 11:12 AM

monoprice

A J Ricaud · 01-27-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by humbland

can you point me to an inexpensive manual hdmi switch?

This is what I am using to do what you want:

http://www.markertek.com/SearchProdu...ff=4&sort=prod

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Originally Posted by humbland

also, i have digital audio out via toslink. is that affected by how the hdmi is hooked up?

No. You can route it through that switch if you want to.

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Originally Posted by humbland

if a hdmi plug is in the port, will the digital audio out still work?
thanks,
eric

Yes.

A J Ricaud · 01-27-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by humbland

can you point me to an inexpensive manual hdmi switch?

eric

Re: the manual switch. Here's how I use it: I plug in the HDMI to DVI cable into DVI #1 input on the switch (you would do it with the HDMI inputs); nothing is plugged in to DVI #2. The switch's DVI output feeds TV #1.

When I punch input #1 on the switch the DVI is active. Conversely, when I punch input #2 on the switch (there is nothing connected to it), nothing goes to TV #1 and the components are then active, feeding TV #2. I run the components directly from the HD Tivo to TV #2.

I hope this makes sense.

humbland · 01-30-2006, 10:02 AM

it looks like the markertek product is a manual switch, but it's hard to tell from the description.
the upside is that it's about 1/3 the price of the remote switch from monoprice.
can you do the same thing with a remote switch from monoprice, or will the powered switch "turn on" the hdmi port and deactivate the component outputs?
thanks for the help,
eric

pudge44 · 01-30-2006, 11:12 AM

After reading many threads on this topic, I'm still not sure I know the answer to my particular question.

I currently have the HR10 hooked up to my Samsung 42: DLP via HDMI. I have optical audio from the HR10 to my A/V receiver. I'm happy to turn Dolby Digital on in the HR10 settings and use the AVR for audio, but I must admit the difference in audio levels between HD and SD channels is pretty annoying. Additionally, watching TV late at night with everyone else asleep in a smallish house makes it somewhat impractical to fire up the home theater every time I flip on the set.

For the moment, the DD it set to off in the HR-10 and I use the TV speakers most of the time. When I want to use the AVR for audio, I turn DD on in the HR10, but that's a pain to do every time.

What I'd like to be able to do is turn the DD settings in the HR10 to on, yet still have the option to use the TV's speakers for audio if I'd like to. What happens if I hook up both the HDMI and component outs from the HR10 to separate inputs on the same TV? Will my Samsung "shut down" the HDMI port, allowing me to hear audio -- even with Dolby Digital enabled -- when I switch to component in?

If so, I can solve my problem for the cost of an additional component cable. (I'm using the one that came with the HR10 to connect my DVD player to the TV.)

Thanks!

pudge44 · 01-30-2006, 04:07 PM

bump

A J Ricaud · 02-01-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by humbland

it looks like the markertek product is a manual switch, but it's hard to tell from the description.
the upside is that it's about 1/3 the price of the remote switch from monoprice.
can you do the same thing with a remote switch from monoprice, or will the powered switch "turn on" the hdmi port and deactivate the component outputs?
thanks for the help,
eric

As long as you are connecting only 1 HDMI source to the switch and leaving the other input(s) empty, it will work the same as the manual switch. It just costs more but may be more convenient to use because it is remote controlled.

Arcady · 02-01-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pudge44

What I'd like to be able to do is turn the DD settings in the HR10 to on, yet still have the option to use the TV's speakers for audio if I'd like to.

Plug an analog stereo RCA cable into the TV set. You don't need digital audio for two channel sound.

pudge44 · 02-02-2006, 06:11 AM

Arcady, unfortunately there are no audio inputs on the TV that work with HDMI. It's a single HDMI/DVI in port, with an accompanying audio in for DVI, but that port does not work when using HDMI.

I'm going to experiment with component and report back.

Mr. Bill · 02-02-2006, 10:42 AM

Like your TV, my Sharp won't "switch on" its RCA stereo inputs when using the HDMI input.

The only way to get around this I found was to use headphones attached to the RCA of the HR10 and turn off the AVR.