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11-27-2005, 12:17 AM
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HR10-250 and 6.2 Software
Hey everyone..
I just bought a new HR10-250 and it came with the 3.1xxx software, and i was wondering if it was capable of upgrading to 6.2. I called in about 3 times today and i only got one software update but it was still 3.1xxx or something. I noticed that this unit so MUCH slower than my DSR-7000 with the 6.2 software but that tivo was slowish as well with the older software. Any suggestions? Or should I just wait it out?
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11-27-2005, 12:41 AM
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D* is coming out with their own house brand HD DVR (like they did with the R-15), so there will be no more Tivo based DirecTV DVRs, although the service will continue to exist for a long time.
The HR10-250 will not get the 6.2 software. So what you see is what you get. I just ordered the HR10-250 myself knowing full well that this was going to be the case.
When D* comes out with the replacement for the HR10-250, they are claiming that the HR10-250s will be replaced at little or no cost to the customer. The way I figure, we'll have the HR10-250 operational for at least a year or probably longer before we go for the replacement. I would really like the replacement models to be fairly well debugged before I switch.
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11-27-2005, 12:43 PM
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It is capable of upgrades, sure, but who is to say they will send one.
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11-27-2005, 06:34 PM
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6.2 for the HR10-250 is rumored to be in beta test. Who knows when (if) it will be released.
If anyone from DirecTV is reading this, let me know if you need another tester. 
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11-27-2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by roberb
D* is coming out with their own house brand HD DVR (like they did with the R-15), so there will be no more Tivo based DirecTV DVRs, although the service will continue to exist for a long time.
The HR10-250 will not get the 6.2 software. So what you see is what you get. I just ordered the HR10-250 myself knowing full well that this was going to be the case.
When D* comes out with the replacement for the HR10-250, they are claiming that the HR10-250s will be replaced at little or no cost to the customer. The way I figure, we'll have the HR10-250 operational for at least a year or probably longer before we go for the replacement. I would really like the replacement models to be fairly well debugged before I switch.
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Ditto on this and I've been trying to force an upgrade to the latest 3.x version but have been having problems staying connected even though I'm using the same number my R-10 uses to connect.
I'll have to let this puppy run for at least a year otherwise the wife will be quite upset, even though she's already been warned about the agreement cancellation between D* and Tivo. $399 is still $399, and that's still a lot of money. She's still upset about the Harmony 880 purchase. Love that remote!
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11-27-2005, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by roberb
D* is coming out with their own house brand HD DVR (like they did with the R-15), so there will be no more Tivo based DirecTV DVRs, although the service will continue to exist for a long time.
The HR10-250 will not get the 6.2 software. So what you see is what you get. I just ordered the HR10-250 myself knowing full well that this was going to be the case.
When D* comes out with the replacement for the HR10-250, they are claiming that the HR10-250s will be replaced at little or no cost to the customer. The way I figure, we'll have the HR10-250 operational for at least a year or probably longer before we go for the replacement. I would really like the replacement models to be fairly well debugged before I switch.
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Do you have an official source that DirecTV won't roll out 6.2? Or are you just speculating? (You state as if this is fact...)
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11-28-2005, 01:58 AM
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When they rolled out the 6.2 upgrade to the SD DVRs, they specifically said on their web site that the older (Series 1?) DVRs and the HR10-250 wouldn't be getting the upgrade.
Couple that with the fact that they are coming out with the house brand DVR, I wouldn't expect there to be a 6.2 upgrade to the HR10-250. On the other hand, if they indeed have a 6.2 in beta and their house brand HD DVR is delayed as was the R-15 , then they might decide to release the rumoured beta, but I am not holding my breath for it.
Also, when I ordered my HR10-250 the other day, the tech confirmed my suspicion - unofficially, of course.
So, you might call it an educated guess if you will.
RB
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11-28-2005, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by roberb
When they rolled out the 6.2 upgrade to the SD DVRs, they specifically said on their web site that the older (Series 1?) DVRs and the HR10-250 wouldn't be getting the upgrade.
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You should really put that statement in context...
http://directv.com/see/landing/dvr_upgrade.html
Are all DIRECTV DVRs receiving this upgrade?
No. DIRECTV DVR models SONY SAT-T60, PHILIPS DSR6000R, HUGHES GXCEBOT and HR10-250 will not receive the 6.2 software upgrade at this time.
Never say never, Mr. Bond..
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11-28-2005, 02:40 AM
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Thanks for finding the upgrade landing page on the DirecTV site. I also think that there is a big difference between "won't be getting the upgrade at this time" and "will receive the upgrade in the future", no?
I am just saying that it would be a really pleasant surprise if we got the 6.2 upgrade on the HR10-250, but am not holding my breath. Look, I ordered one of these things myself, and I'd love to have the speed and the folders.
RB
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11-28-2005, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by roberb
Thanks for finding the upgrade landing page on the DirecTV site. I also think that there is a big difference between "won't be getting the upgrade at this time" and "will receive the upgrade in the future", no?
I am just saying that it would be a really pleasant surprise if we got the 6.2 upgrade on the HR10-250, but am not holding my breath. Look, I ordered one of these things myself, and I'd love to have the speed and the folders.
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Just like the USB ports and the window button... "in the future" 
I remember that after they stopped offering Ultimate TV they came out with one more upgrade for it, so you never know.
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11-28-2005, 06:46 AM
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Unless there's a big movement of subs closing down their 250s and the new one is going to be significantly delayed, they're not going to talk nice with TiVo for help with the upgrade, nor will they spend the internal resources to ensure it works--even if there's a beta out there somewhere. Not when they need all hands on deck to get the new NDS boxes out.
What they COULD do, barring any licensing issues, and the like is to Open Source their beta 6.2. Some of the people here and the other boards are quite good with linux and may understand how this stuff works better than the D* programmers! Then we'd get what we needed--provided the processor and memory could handle the extra load that 6.2 puts out, along with the HD recordings.
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11-28-2005, 07:24 AM
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Man, thats lame.. now im stuck with a slow tivo.
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11-28-2005, 07:44 AM
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Yeah, slow. But a real pretty picture.
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11-28-2005, 12:29 PM
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r-10 software
I bought a new upgraded r-10 from weaknees nov 5 2005. I forgot to look at what software it had till I saw your post. It has 6.1 and I have forced 3 phone calls the first week so I do not know when it got the upgrade. Mabey from weakness?
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11-28-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 69800
I bought a new upgraded r-10 from weaknees nov 5 2005. I forgot to look at what software it had till I saw your post. It has 6.1 and I have forced 3 phone calls the first week so I do not know when it got the upgrade. Mabey from weakness?
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It is the same as 6.2.
6.1 is specific to the R10.
6.2 is specific to the other series 2 DirecTiVo's.
Only way to get 6.2 on your R10 is SERIOUS modifications.
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11-28-2005, 01:36 PM
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and since they are functionally identical there's no reason to do it.
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11-29-2005, 08:39 AM
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then how would you go about loading the 6.1 software on the r10?
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11-29-2005, 09:48 AM
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then how would you go about loading the 6.1 software on the r10?
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The R10 comes with it -- in fact, AFAIK there is no other version of software that works on the R10.
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11-29-2005, 12:48 PM
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The R10 comes with 3.1.1e software (atleast mine did..) and i havent been able to force a 6.1 upgrade. All ive been able to upgrade to is to 3.1.1f.
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11-29-2005, 12:51 PM
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then you don't have an R10, R10's SHIPPED with 6.1
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11-29-2005, 01:09 PM
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Three cheers for confusing naming conventions.
R10 - SD 6.1
R10-250 High Def 3.1.1.f
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11-29-2005, 01:11 PM
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well "HR10-250" IS in the title of the topic...
there fixed
Last edited by StEvEY5036 : 11-29-2005 at 09:36 PM.
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11-29-2005, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by StEvEY5036
well R10-250 IS in the title of the topic...
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HR10-250, see the H?
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11-29-2005, 01:22 PM
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No wonder I just call it an HDtivo (since its the only one)
Ok the HDTivo won't get 6.1
The R10 won't get 6.2
I think we're all up to speed again
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11-29-2005, 01:25 PM
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And the HDTiVo most likely won't get 6.2 either.
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11-29-2005, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SpacemanSpiff
And the HDTiVo most likely won't get 6.2 either.
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Source? Or just another 'opinion' from the peanut gallery...
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11-29-2005, 07:45 PM
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don't really need a source.
Let's look at some facts
1) DTivo and Tivo's contactural relation ship ends in 2007
2) DTV has released a NON Tivo Standard Definition DVR (R15)
3) 6.2 has been out for SEVERAL months and has not been rolled out to the HD units
4) DTV has a NON Tivo HD-DVR set to debut some time in 06 with MPEG-4 support
Why would DTV release ANYTHING for the HDTivo? especially since 6.2 has been hacked by many of us to include the Multimedia and show xfer features these NEW non-tivo boxes will supposedly have?
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11-29-2005, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunnyman
don't really need a source.
Let's look at some facts
1) DTivo and Tivo's contactural relation ship ends in 2007
2) DTV has released a NON Tivo Standard Definition DVR (R15)
3) 6.2 has been out for SEVERAL months and has not been rolled out to the HD units
4) DTV has a NON Tivo HD-DVR set to debut some time in 06 with MPEG-4 support
Why would DTV release ANYTHING for the HDTivo? especially since 6.2 has been hacked by many of us to include the Multimedia and show xfer features these NEW non-tivo boxes will supposedly have?
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1) So? They released 6.2's on the SD's knowing this...
2) So? The R15 was in the works long before they released 6.2
3) So? They are two VERY different units with completely different software. The R10 with 6.1 had been out for SEVERAL months before 6.2 was rolled out to the rest of the units.
4) So? They had the R15 in development when they were rolling out 6.2. Remember the R15 is VERY late, it was supposed to be out much sooner. You could've made this same argument last year!
Here are the facts:
1) The HR10-250 is DirecTV's HD DVR. It is the only one they sell, it is still available at major retailers.
2) The HR10-250 has not be discontinued, a replacment is 6-12 months out, not next week! If I told you Intel was going to release a new processor next year, it wouldn't stop you from buying a new PC now! This is technology. It changes from year to year.
3) For 6-12 months they are competing with Dish and cable co's, this is the only product they have to compete with the other HD-DVR offerings.
4) The 6.2 for the HR10 has been delievered to DirecTV and is being tested.
There is no conclusive evidence that indicates they won't update these units. Sure it's possibel they won't, I give you that. It could go either way really.
Frankly I was surprised they released it on the SD units, so who knows...
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11-29-2005, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunnyman
don't really need a source.
Let's look at some facts
1) DTivo and Tivo's contactural relation ship ends in 2007
2) DTV has released a NON Tivo Standard Definition DVR (R15)
3) 6.2 has been out for SEVERAL months and has not been rolled out to the HD units
4) DTV has a NON Tivo HD-DVR set to debut some time in 06 with MPEG-4 support
Why would DTV release ANYTHING for the HDTivo? especially since 6.2 has been hacked by many of us to include the Multimedia and show xfer features these NEW non-tivo boxes will supposedly have?
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..and the show xfer features are totally impractical on the HR10 due to the mere size of the files.
You would have to have TWO HR10's, (as the HR10 is not powerful enough to downres the show before transferring it..) and then you are talking about transferring 10 GIGS of data vs. 1 Gig for an hour show over USB 2.0. It would be ridiculous... especially if you look at the current transfer rates we are getting on the SD units! Who's going to wait 2-3 hours to watch an hour show?
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