Lost 10/12/05 "Everybody Hates Hugo" ***SPOILERS*** - Page 11

jeff125va · 10-14-2005, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharpes

Theres no reason why Hurley couldnt have given Randy the job. We saw where he learned that he owned a box company, what we dont know is how much time passed from then till he got on the plane. Its perfectly reasonable to beleive that months passed between the two.

I agree that nothing we know so far rules out that possibility, but nothing has confirmed it either. My gut is still that it's a red herring. Not that this is definitive either, but I think it's unusual for guys to go from clean shaven with a neat haircut to scruffy facial hair and a moppy haircut, especially one who's in a new supervisory job.

But for the sake of argument, if it is the same character, and even if Hurley did get him the job at some point after finding out he owned the box company, it's still pure speculation that it's anything more than a coincidence that Locke was on the same ill-fated (or not) flight as Hurley, his employer and his supervisor's former employee. Locke was there on vacation; I forget if we know why Hurley was there but as far as I know there's been no connection established between them that would have anything to do with them being on the same flight.

jlb · 10-14-2005, 08:57 AM

jeff125va · 10-14-2005, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deekeryu

We got to see the entrance to the hatch, but it doesn't look very hidden at all. It's like a big door out in the open. I wonder why they hadn't seen it before, and it looks really easy to get into. Why is it one side has an entrance you have to blow open to get into, while the other you just turn the wheel, and you get inside?

I'm surprised this question hasn't had more discussion. It almost seems like a major plot hole to me, so maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps the point of having to blow up the hatch was not to keep people out, but to keep people in (it was, after all, the side marked "quarantine"), but that theory doesn't hold very well because Desmond obviously knew how to get out through the other exit. Plus, it seems likely that the other entrance is the one that would be used for bringing in supplies, appliances, etc., so it would have to be known about by the occupants.

MikeMar · 10-14-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff125va

I'm surprised this question hasn't had more discussion. It almost seems like a major plot hole to me, so maybe I'm missing something. Perhaps the point of having to blow up the hatch was not to keep people out, but to keep people in (it was, after all, the one marked "quarantine," but that theory doesn't hold very well because Desmond obviously knew how to get out through the other exit. Plus, it seems likely that the other entrance is the one that would be used for bringing in supplies, appliances, etc., so it would have to be known about by the occupants.

Maybe it's an emergancy hatch, and the whole bunker was never ment for complete lockdown, so who knows.

7thton · 10-14-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nataylor

I thought they went "Lord of the Flies" and killed each other.

That's what I think as well....

tecban · 10-14-2005, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharpes

Theres no reason why Hurley couldnt have given Randy the job. We saw where he learned that he owned a box company, what we dont know is how much time passed from then till he got on the plane. Its perfectly reasonable to beleive that months passed between the two.

I'll buy that. That would be the connection, then... I just wouldn't put it past the writers to make it yet another coincidence, either.

Philly Bill · 10-14-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by pmyers

There was no real carton of milk, just like there wasn't any real steak dinners with mashed taters and gravy.

Its easy to forget. Even last night watching it again I'm saying to my wife... 'I can't get over how weird it is... he opens a cardboard box and inside is a steak dinner, mashed potaoes?'

She says (again for the hundreth time) ... 'he's dreaming honey'.

Oh. Yeah.

e30mpwrd · 10-14-2005, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jkeegan

So Desmond was only gonna have enough food for another 3 months, eh?.

Several people echoed this above, but I could have sworn Hurley said it was only enough food to last 3 months for the 40+ survivors, which would mean Desmond would have had enough food for 10 years assuming none went bad. Did I mishear?

Remember, there is no spoon...

brott · 10-14-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BrettStah

But do we have enough information to know the timeline of when Hurley finds out he owns a box company, and when Randy (presumably) is hired by this box company?

Since I didn't go back and watch, this is from memory. However, wasn't the time we met Randy with Locke very shortly before the walkabout, and as such the return flight from Sydney? Also wasn't the Box company thing at least somewhat close to when Hurley won the Lottery? There has been a strong implication that bad things started happening really quickly after the win (uncle? dies while the cameras are still rolling, etc.) That would certainly leave enough time for Hurley to get his old boss a job after the metorite and before the flight. Again, not confirmed, but I disagree that the theory of Hurley hiring his old boss can be completely discounted at this point.

Now, is it a coincidence that there are Apollo bars and that Hurley corrected himself by changing "meteor" to "meteorite?" Perhaps there is a sixth-sense like phenomenon going on and the mention of "something from space" is a clue indicator. The object is not necessarily the clue, but the appearance of the object means that you should look very closely at this sequence ... Just a random thought.

MitchO · 10-14-2005, 10:06 AM

I'm pretty sure Hurley said 3 meals a day for one person for 3 months. Scriptmaster Hefe?!

MikeMar · 10-14-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by e30mpwrd

Several people echoed this above, but I could have sworn Hurley said it was only enough food to last 3 months for the 40+ survivors, which would mean Desmond would have had enough food for 10 years assuming none went bad. Did I mishear?

Remember, there is no spoon...

Yeah duh, we all botched that one a bunch of posts ago.

3 months * 40 people = 120 months = 10 years

7thton · 10-14-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RunnerFL

bigspaceship1.com was leaked by going to hansofoundation.org using SSL [https://thehansofoundation.org]. The thehansofoundation.org domain is registered by ABC.

Domain ID

106939446-LROR
Domain Name:THEHANSOFOUNDATION.ORG
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Last Updated On:17-Sep-2005 04:05:12 UTC
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Admin ID:tu2a7BJevHccITRa
Admin Name:ABC.com .
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So, it's legit then?

sbourgeo · 10-14-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jlb

Or maybe it links to the whole experiment thing from the angle of contaminated space junk has landed on the island and maybe that is responsible for whatever is making people sick.....just random wild (hopefully smeekless) thoughts.....

I remember that being the plot of an episode of The Six Million Dollar Man in the 70's.

jubrand · 10-14-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thton

So, it's legit then?

Not sure, I thought http://thehansofoundation.org was the one that was legit, while the https:// version was the one that was not.

Now, if you try to go to the https one, it's something different:

https://thehansofoundation.org
And that's the one that leaked bigspacehip1

(and nice Office quote!

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7thton · 10-14-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jubrand

Not sure, I thought http://thehansofoundation.org was the one that was legit, while the https:// version was the one that was not.

Now, if you try to go to the https one, it's something different:

https://thehansofoundation.org
And that's the one that leaked bigspacehip1

The Morse Code in the bigspacehip1 site says (and I'm sure I'm smeeking, but...)

SOMETIMES/A/POLAR/BEAR/IS/JUST/A/POLAR/PEAR

Pear? WTH?

peitsche · 10-14-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by e30mpwrd

Several people echoed this above, but I could have sworn Hurley said it was only enough food to last 3 months for the 40+ survivors, which would mean Desmond would have had enough food for 10 years assuming none went bad. Did I mishear?

actually, I thought he said there was enough food for three meals a day for a month. paging hefe...

jlb · 10-14-2005, 10:26 AM

Maybe they all have been part of a Hanso experiment since birth.......

bentleyml · 10-14-2005, 10:49 AM

Just rewatched the scene.

Hurley: "Dude, there's enough food in there to feed one guy, three meals a day for another three months."

danieljanderson · 10-14-2005, 10:55 AM

I think we are going to find someone (or 2 people) that are bi-polar.

That may explain "Polar Pear" (I know the spelling is wrong)
The was also a song being played another time about someone with a split personality.

Jstkiddn · 10-14-2005, 11:09 AM

Does anyone think that maybe Randy is working at the box company just by chance? That maybe Hurley doesn't even realize that his former boss is one of his employees?

Surely people that have $150+ million hire people to invest their money. As such, I can see how they might wind up with many different companies and probably have little to do with their day to day operations.

Just a thought.

jubrand · 10-14-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jstkiddn

Does anyone think that maybe Randy is working at the box company just by chance? That maybe Hurley doesn't even realize that his former boss is one of his employees?

Surely people that have $150+ million hire people to invest their money. As such, I can see how they might wind up with many different companies and probably have little to do with their day to day operations.

Just a thought.

Didn't Hurley not even realize he owned a box company? I thought his financial advisor told him about it last year and he was surprised.

jlb · 10-14-2005, 11:27 AM

I just went ot ABC's site to check on some details in the recaps......has anyone else noticed that the Season 2 episode recaps are maybe at best about 30% the length of the recaps they did for Season 1. Heck, the recap for "Everyone Hates...." starts off with "Hurley awakes from his dream"....and has no mention of what he saw in the dream.

Sheesh, are they just getting lazy at ABC or what?

dswallow · 10-14-2005, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jlb

Sheesh, are they just getting lazy at ABC or what?

Maybe they figure this will encourage people to watch instead of read the episode.

hefe · 10-14-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jubrand

Didn't Hurley not even realize he owned a box company? I thought his financial advisor told him about it last year and he was surprised.

Yeah, Keith_R90210 said that in post #254.

Sheesh...aren't people even going to read the thread?

cheesesteak · 10-14-2005, 11:31 AM

I firmly believe that the significance of the Apollo candy bar will become apparent when we learn that The Others have formed a religion based on Apollo Creed.

hefe · 10-14-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cheesesteak

I firmly believe that the significance of the Apollo candy bar will become apparent when we learn that The Others have formed a religion based on Apollo Creed.

That works...and they can recite the Apollo Creed during their services.

jubrand · 10-14-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hefe

Yeah, Keith_R90210 said that in post #254.

Sheesh...aren't people even going to read the thread?

Vito the TiVo · 10-14-2005, 11:49 AM

Legit? Significant?

(not made by me but culled from another one of those sites out there)

EDIT: I'm just retarded and can't figure out how to make the image display in the post.

EDIT: Did it. Still retarded though.

Lee L · 10-14-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jlb

I just went ot ABC's site to check on some details in the recaps......has anyone else noticed that the Season 2 episode recaps are maybe at best about 30% the length of the recaps they did for Season 1. Heck, the recap for "Everyone Hates...." starts off with "Hurley awakes from his dream"....and has no mention of what he saw in the dream.

Sheesh, are they just getting lazy at ABC or what?

Either that or they figure that with 10,000 geeks on the internet recapping and disecting every episode, there is no need to go into much detail?

7thton · 10-14-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito the TiVo

Legit? Significant?

(not made by me but culled from another one of those sites out there)

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Holy crap....