Watching the Grammy(ies)?

YCantAngieRead · 02-13-2005, 09:05 PM

Joss Stone can sing the crap out of any of those blond girl singers out now.

And Melissa Etheridge is a little alarming when bald, but considering it probably wasn't her choice, it's a brave move.

rhuntington3 · 02-13-2005, 09:06 PM

Nope. I'm here at work.

tem · 02-13-2005, 09:12 PM

is she doing chemo or something ?

It does look pretty great in HD, even if I now gott sit here and look at Billy Bob Thornton's chest hair. yuck:

CharlieW · 02-13-2005, 09:12 PM

I'm boycotting.

Once I saw that something as obvious as Brian Wilson's - Smile was left out of the Album of the Year category, I realized that Grammy will never get it right. Ever. Even when it's obvious. Even if he lost to Ray Charles, I'd understand --- but to not nominate a brilliant piece of pop history for Album of the Year, knowing the story behind the man and that piece of music --- it's ludicrous. Ludicrous.

jami · 02-13-2005, 09:12 PM

I saw pictures of Melissa arriving. Bravo to her!! I've been following that woman since practically her bar days here in Long Beach in the late 80's. I hope she kicks the crap out of her breast cancer!!!

I'm a big Joss Stone, fan, too.

Alas, I'm on the west coast and it doesn't start for another 50 minutes here. I'm TiVoing, of course, so I can skip through most of it. I hear U2's performance was great - can't wait for that one. Otherwise, there's not too much I care about with the Grammys - it ceased to be relevant for me long ago.

YCantAngieRead · 02-13-2005, 09:17 PM

Kanye West had a pretty good performance, too. I'm mostly just watching it because there's nothing else on and I was doing some work and didn't want to sit down and actually watch something.

jsmeeker · 02-13-2005, 09:17 PM

Man, I missed the U2 performance.. Must have been on in the early part of the show. I didn't get home until 8:00 PM. (Not TiVo'ing it)

John McKee · 02-13-2005, 09:17 PM

Nope. I always get the impression that the voting process looks something like the draft picks for the NFL between all the big name record companies.

Sony: "OK, You can have best new artist, but we best R&B album"
Universal: "Deal."

tem · 02-13-2005, 09:19 PM

so why is that Goth girl giving the country female award ? She looks AWFUL in HD.

Nice to see Loretta Lynn win and walk up w/ Jack White.

genearch · 02-13-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jsmeeker

Man, I missed the U2 performance.. Must have been on in the early part of the show. I didn't get home until 8:00 PM. (Not TiVo'ing it)

I just watched it

Yet another damned good performance

YCantAngieRead · 02-13-2005, 09:26 PM

Who is Jack White? I was just wondering that.

YCantAngieRead · 02-13-2005, 09:26 PM

Speaking of not looking good...a buzz cut is not the most appealing on the unappealing Rob Thomas.

tomo_kun · 02-13-2005, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jsmeeker

Man, I missed the U2 performance.. Must have been on in the early part of the show. I didn't get home until 8:00 PM. (Not TiVo'ing it)

U2 Preformed?? Hmm. I missed the only decent part I guess. I didn't watch it.

I was not impressed with this years list of nominees, only three really stood out for me (Virtigo, Lets Get It Started [spike someone mix], Boulivard of broken dreams).

Turtleboy · 02-13-2005, 09:28 PM

Jack White of the White Stripes produced Loretta Lynn's Van Lear Rose, and it's excellent.

Why give Ray Charles all these nominations? Did he come out with anything new? He's dead.

Sparty99 · 02-13-2005, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by YCantAngieRead

Who is Jack White? I was just wondering that.

Singer of White Stripes (Detroit garage rock band). He produced Loretta Lynn's album.

genearch · 02-13-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by YCantAngieRead

Who is Jack White? I was just wondering that.

Isn't he that guy from The White stripes that dumped Renee Zellweger?

YCantAngieRead · 02-13-2005, 09:32 PM

Good to see Elvis Costello nominated for something.

CharlieW · 02-13-2005, 09:32 PM

OK, I just want to make sure that I got this right. According to CNN, the Best New Artist award was given to Maroon 5 for their 'Songs About Jane' record that was first released in 2002, but "didn't catch fire until last year".

CNN also did a poll this evening asking if you would purchase a record based up it winning a Grammy. At last look, 91% of the people that voted said, "No." That tells you how messed up the Grammys are...I'm glad to see that people have more sense than to trust them to tell them what good music is out there.

By the way, Kanye West should have won Best New Artist out of the nominees...no question about it.

LoadStar · 02-13-2005, 09:32 PM

Well, the two categories that matter to me - Best Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album and Best Rock Gospel Album - were both robbed. Nothing against Third Day's Wire or SCC's All Things New - both were good albums in their own rights, and I've seen the tour for ATN twice now. They just weren't nearly the best in that category. Jars of Clay's Who We Are Instead and Skillet's Collide were far better albums, in my opinion.

I think it was just a case of Grammy voters picking the only name that they recognized, not actually picking an album that merited the award.

Turtleboy · 02-13-2005, 09:32 PM

The show is surprisingly quite good this year.

Sparty99 · 02-13-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dphelps1

I'm boycotting.

Once I saw that something as obvious as Brian Wilson's - Smile was left out of the Album of the Year category, I realized that Grammy will never get it right. Ever. Even when it's obvious. Even if he lost to Ray Charles, I'd understand --- but to not nominate a brilliant piece of pop history for Album of the Year, knowing the story behind the man and that piece of music --- it's ludicrous. Ludicrous.

I'll admit that I know very little about decent music (other than Lisa Marie Presley should not be allowed on the Grammys), but I would think that the back story of Smile actually might have hurt Brian Wilson. When you've had almost 40 years to put together an album, you would expect it to be some sort of classic.

Personally, I was amazed when All That You Can't Leave Behind didn't win album of the year. I'll admit that I'm a U2 slappy, but I find it difficult to believe that an album that had TWO Records of the Year on it didn't win Album of the Year.

And as someone who was victimized by the ticketing problems that U2 just spoke of, I have to say it means a lot that they said something about it on the industry's biggest stage.

transpizzle · 02-13-2005, 09:35 PM

Green Day sounded superb!

Sparty99 · 02-13-2005, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by genearch

Isn't he that guy from The White stripes that dumped Renee Zellweger?

Yeah, same guy. Also got arrested for beating up the lead singer of the Von Bondies after some critics said the Von Bondies were better than the White Stripes.

YCantAngieRead · 02-13-2005, 09:40 PM

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By the way, Kanye West should have won Best New Artist out of the nominees...no question about it.

Yeah, he should have.

The music is really stellar that's being performed.

tem · 02-13-2005, 09:42 PM

ugh. Another ensemble butchering of a classic song. One listen to Brian Wilson shows you why he didn't deserve a grammy. The man simply canNOT sing anymore.

I"m sure John Lennon once said "you know, this would have sounded better with marracas"

:barf:

Sparty99 · 02-13-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tem

ugh. Another ensemble butchering of a classic song. One listen to Brian Wilson shows you why he didn't deserve a grammy. The man simply canNOT sing anymore.

I"m sure John Lennon once said "you know, this would have sounded better with marracas.

:barf:

Respectfully disagree. If anything I think it was a little too coreographed, although I think it got pulled off quite well.

LoadStar · 02-13-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tem

ugh. Another ensemble butchering of a classic song. One listen to Brian Wilson shows you why he didn't deserve a grammy. The man simply canNOT sing anymore.

I"m sure John Lennon once said "you know, this would have sounded better with marracas.

:barf:

Agreed. That was horrific. The only person that I thought could sing in that group was Bono. I can't imagine who would want to buy that track. Buying that track is a true act of charity, if you ask me.

hefe · 02-13-2005, 09:46 PM

Forgot all about it. Just turned it on, I might have recorded it if I had realized it was going to be HD with 5.1 sound.

Just caught the very end of the multi-generational love fest.

CatBurger00 · 02-13-2005, 09:48 PM

Keane wasn't nominated for anything?!

CharlieW · 02-13-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by serumgard

When you've had almost 40 years to put together an album, you would expect it to be some sort of classic.

It is. It's brilliant.

The reasons behind Smile not seeing the light of day for 37 years have much more to do with Wilson's personal demons and how that particular music put a wedge between himself and some of the people closest to him.

It was a great triumph that he was able to exorcise his demons and record this music -- in my humble opinion, it was the music story of the year. But once again, Grammy is clueless.

It's also a shame that they are going to fall all over themselves to honor Ray Charles because he happened to pass away last year. For crying out loud, nobody cared too much when the guy had to resort to Diet Pepsi commercials to remain in the limelight -- it just seems hypocritical to me to honor him for a record that he threw together with a bunch of modern day pop music personalities.

I love Ray Charles' music, but honoring him posthumously is just a bit schmaltzy for my taste.