Hackman -- A Hack Manager module for TivoWeb - Page 8

PortlandPaw · 09-06-2004, 10:21 PM

Maybe the solution is two menu items -- one for "3 " and all others. I think mine is the special (and rare) case. I don't think it would be worth trying to read the MFS to find out what the real case is.

I'm going to bed and let the Red Sox lull me to sleep.

SeanC · 09-07-2004, 06:32 AM

We are both special and rare.

I think these are the only 3 situations that need to be worried about.

There is only one program that starts with the digit 3: cursor jumps on input of 3.

There is only one program that starts with 3 and space: cursor jumps on the input of space.

There are no programs or there are multiple programs that start with 3 and 3 space: cursor never jumps.

PortlandPaw · 09-07-2004, 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by PortlandPaw
I don't think it would be worth trying to read the MFS to find out what the real case is.

While listening to the Sox win again, I decided I'd give it a try. Stay tuned.

Porterx · 09-07-2004, 07:13 AM

Portland Paw,

Can autospace be added to Hackman? I ask because, 2 or 3 times a week, autospace stops working and I have to reboot the tivo. Maybe, instead of stop/start, it could be reload.

Also, in regards to endpadplus, I have what may or may not be a problem. When I originally installed autospace, I set it to pad 1 min before and 1 min after. When I installed the newer version of hackman, your endpadplus defaults were 1 min before and 2 mins after. I liked this better so I started using it. Now, when I reboot the tivo, endpadplus defaults back to 1 min before and 1 min after. I have to stop/start endpadplus in Hackman to get endpadplus back to your defaults. Is this something you'd be interested in fixing?

Thank you,
Porter

P.S. I'm really looking forward to using the new version of Hackman that includes 30 sec skip and sort on bootup. I'm confused by the above posts about it. I have the same tivo/software that you have. Please advise when you've got it nailed. I d/l'ed files for 30 sec skip and sort from the other place that alter tivoapp but I'm skittish about using them considering my hacking level.

PortlandPaw · 09-07-2004, 07:46 AM

Autospace is already in hackman. Please check that the paths match between the hackman.cfg file and where it is on your box.

The problem with endpadplus is not hackman, but rather how you're starting endpadplus on boot. Use hackman to edit whatever file you're using to start endpadplus to specify the -1 and +2 settings you prefer.

I agree about modifying tivoapp -- I chowdered my machine up good the last time I tried that and vowed I'd leave it alone after that.

I hope we can solve the backdoor problem. 30 sec skip and sort are OK, but there are some challenges w/backdoor. It's kind of like building a macro where the elements aren't constant.

Fozzie · 09-07-2004, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Porterx
Can autospace be added to Hackman? I ask because, 2 or 3 times a week, autospace stops working and I have to reboot the tivo. Maybe, instead of stop/start, it could be reload.

It already is! (I asked the same question a couple of pages back - I hadn't noticed that I hadn't edited Hackmanager's config file to point to where I had installed autospace!).

You're looking for a line like:

set autospacepathname "/var/hack/autospace.tcl"

Make sure it reperesents where your autospace.tcl is located

SeanC · 09-07-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by PortlandPaw
I hope we can solve the backdoor problem. 30 sec skip and sort are OK, but there are some challenges w/backdoor. It's kind of like building a macro where the elements aren't constant.

I've been thinking about this. What would solve the problem is if there is a key we can press that would put the cursor on the ouija board in a specific and predictable way. I don't think there is, but I haven't really looked for one yet. When I was having a problem with the cursor jumping over to the program list I did notice that most keypresses were ignored except for right and left (select probably works too).

That's what I plan on looking for tomorrow. I won't have anytime today as after work I'm headed up to your neck of the woods PP, dropping by a friends place in Portland.

PortlandPaw · 09-07-2004, 08:00 AM

I'm planning on using the search module to check the programs that might come up on the "Search By Title" screen, but they don't match!

On the Search By Title screen, one program that starts with 3{space} comes up, but in search, there are several. And the details don't match, either. Search By Title says 3 Strikes is going to show on Sepember 17; search says none of the several 3{space} programs are scheduled to air. Now I get a [can't read "cache_sp_moddate"] error, so maybe I caught it in mid-index or something.

I'll keep plugging at it.

JFH108 · 09-07-2004, 12:00 PM

I had my SVR2000 running Tivoweb on a TurboNet card. Installed the HackMan module. Everything was working fine. Wanted to try out the "reboot" feature. Pressed the button. The unit went to the "Your recorder is starting up. Please wait a moment..." screen - and never came back.

Now, the unit won't do anything. I've unplugged it and left it unplugged for hours. Plug it back in, and the same screen appears. Nothing else. The unit seems to be completely dead.

The ONLY thing I did was press the REBOOT button from the Hackman module.

Anybody got a clue?

PortlandPaw · 09-07-2004, 12:26 PM

I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune. Hackman, however, must plead "not guilty." All he does is execute either the reboot or restart program native to your TiVo. I'm afraid you're going to have to follow the various de-bugging threads here and on the other forum. If you still have telnet access, I'd start with mfsassert -please.

Good luck!

JFH108 · 09-07-2004, 12:39 PM

I guess I can't blame you for taking that position. Can you give me some pointers in the use of mfsassert? I'm not sure where to go from this point, and I must reiterate that everything was working fine until I pressed the reboot button from hackman.

Since the system will not move past the startup screen, is it possible that I'll still have telnet access? What else to try?

Francesco · 09-07-2004, 12:49 PM

Sounds like a dead hard drive, to me.

If it never gets past "Welcome..." it likely can't even "see" the hard drive. With luck, maybe one of the cables worked its way loose; check both the IDE (at both ends if you can) and power cable. If that's not it, I wouldn't be surprised to find a dead A drive. That happenned to me when TiVo sent the C1 upgrade, just the death blow to an already-dying drive.

JFH108 · 09-07-2004, 01:30 PM

Here's what I know:

1) hard drive was working when I pressed the "reboot" button - then suddenly stopped working on reboot - not likely, but just in case...

2) removed the hard drive and inserted it into my pc - booted the MFS tools and searched through the drive - no problems

3) place the hard drive back into the TiVo unit - same result as before

PortlandPaw · 09-07-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by JFH108
...I must reiterate that everything was working fine until I pressed the reboot button from hackman.

And everything was fine with mine until the electrician cut power to the family room. You can't blame the straw when the camel's back was weak!

Fozzie · 09-07-2004, 02:18 PM

This is often caused when people make bad edits of rc.sysinit

The problems only show up next time Tivo is rebooted, which could be weeks, months even!

Installing a tivoweb module really is unlikely to stop Tivo from booting.

JFH108 · 09-07-2004, 02:34 PM

Ok, so if it was not caused by installing the tivoweb module, and was caused by a bad edit to rc.sysinit, what can be done now?

I tried replacing the rc.sysinit with the backup file (by connecting the disk to a spare pc) - same result. Then I tried using InstantCake to create a fresh TiVo image on a brand new disk - same result.

What next?

Francesco · 09-07-2004, 11:19 PM

A new image on a new drive? And it still stops at "Welcome..." right? To me that sounds like a bad (or no) IDE connection, or the jumper is set wrong.

JFH108 · 09-08-2004, 05:09 AM

In the extraordinary Yogic text called the 'Yoga Vashishta', written several thousand years ago, the story is told of the crow and the coconut.......

A crow alights on a coconut tree and at the very same moment, by chance, a ripe coconut falls. These two unrelated events seem to be related in time and space, though in fact there is no causal relation. A man sitting under the tree would think 'it is because of the crow that I am now eating this wonderfully ripe coconut.'

1) The failure to reboot was caused by editing rc.sysinit on a pc. Rolling back to a prior version of this file enabled the system to reboot.

2) It is not yet known why the system failed to boot on a new hard disk with a fresh disk image. It could be the disk, or it could be a problem with InstantCake or a combination of both.

Fozzie · 09-08-2004, 01:19 PM

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...hreadid=146542

heyitscory · 09-09-2004, 06:00 AM

I loved him as Lex Luthor

crow · 09-09-2004, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFH108
A crow alights on a coconut tree and at the very same moment, by chance, a ripe coconut falls. These two unrelated events seem to be related in time and space, though in fact there is no causal relation. A man sitting under the tree would think 'it is because of the crow that I am now eating this wonderfully ripe coconut.'

Mayhaps I have a new title now... "Bringer of the almighty Coconut"

slydog75 · 09-10-2004, 12:47 PM

Portland, What a great tool this is! I am having one (small) issue however.. I'm not able to get tserver to launch from within hackman.. I get the error "couldn't write file "&1": read-only file system " . I can launch tserver just fine when using the Tytools client. Also, vserver, which is in the same directory as tserver (/var/hack) works just fine through hackman.. Below is the pertinent hackman.cfg entry:

set tytoolpath "/var/hack"

Edit: Just noticed that if I set the driver to read/write that it works fine.. but I'm guessing I shouldn't have to do that.

PortlandPaw · 09-10-2004, 01:42 PM

I'm not familiar with "set the driver to read/write" -- do you mean the root directory (mount / -o remount,rw) or something else?

slydog75 · 09-10-2004, 02:40 PM

I meant to say drive and by drive yes, I meant the root directory. Also, what is the 'view daily mail' module from your screenshot?

PortlandPaw · 09-10-2004, 03:22 PM

It should work with the root directory set to read only. Did you change the start up command line in hackman.cfg? It should look like:
set 8 "exec $tytoolpath/tserver_mfs7 -s $tytoolpath/NowShowing.tcl > /dev/null 2>&1 &"

"View Daily Mail" is for the Daily Mail module available from here.

This isn't exactly a "plug-n-play" module; read the thread and figure out what will work for you.

slydog75 · 09-10-2004, 04:05 PM

nope, my startup command line matches that exactly.. here is a copy of the execute string that the TyTools client actually uses:

/var/hack/tserver_mfs7 -s /var/hack/NowShowing.tcl

One thing to note.. the tserver I installed originally had a mips tag on the end of it (tserver_mfs7_mips) which wasn't working with hackman for obvious reasons so I just renamed the file to match what hackman expected.

slydog75 · 09-10-2004, 04:20 PM

just noticed someting else very strange.. as I said if I set the root to rw it will launch.. if I then try to set the root back to ro without shutting down tserver I get an internal error:

INTERNAL SERVER ERROR
--cut here--
action_toggle_remount '' ''
mount: / is busy
while executing
"exec /bin/bash -c "mount / -o remount,ro""
(procedure "action_goremount" line 10)
invoked from within
"action_goremount $chan $path $env"
(procedure "::action_toggle_remount" line 13)
invoked from within
"::action_$action $chan $part $env"
("eval" body line 1)
invoked from within
"eval {::action_$action $chan $part $env}"
--cut here--

I have to shut tserver back down before I can return the root to ro. Just in case it has any relevancy, I have tivowebplus installed in /var/local/tivoweb-tcl

PortlandPaw · 09-10-2004, 04:38 PM

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Originally posted by slydog75
the tserver I installed originally had a mips tag on the end of it (tserver_mfs7_mips) which wasn't working with hackman for obvious reasons so I just renamed the file to match what hackman expected.

Could this then be actually launching the real tserver_mfs7 with the unexpected results?

Try renaming tserver back to its original name and edit hackman.cfg to match, instead of the other way around.

slydog75 · 09-10-2004, 05:13 PM

Nope, same results. I also just discovered I get the same error when I try to use hackman to stop/restart tivowebplus (couldn't write file "&1": read-only file system).

PortlandPaw · 09-10-2004, 05:57 PM

I'm stumped. Never seen anything like that happen before. Does anybody else have any ideas what might be happening?