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Old 12-16-2005, 04:12 AM   #1171
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Well I guess the log file could be clearer but that seem to be working fine? It hasn't actualy added 2 lots of 5 mins.

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Old 12-16-2005, 05:08 AM   #1172
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Oops. Lesson here is to actually watch TiVo, not just read the logfile!

You're right (of course) - First prog has 5 minutes added, the second starts on time.
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Old 12-18-2005, 11:11 AM   #1173
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Taking another look at the code, it would appear this is a bug that occurs if you have sugeq option selected or if the suggestion is on the same channel.
Thanks Tym,

But unfortunately this does not explain either of the two examples I gave, unless by having 'sugeg option selected' you mean sugeg=0, not 1.

I had sugeg =0 and in both cases the suggestions were on different channels to the season passes being recorded.

That said I have not noticed the problem re-occur since moving to md5 .

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Old 12-28-2005, 02:12 PM   #1174
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WoW! Endpad just let me down after eons of working fine, not sure if this was a one off funny, or a bug???

Sunday 02:50:00 : Woken up
Sunday 02:50:01 : Error detected
Sunday 02:50:01 : no such object: {CONFLICT err=errTmActiveLockConflict}
while executing
"dbobj $nprogram get Title"
("uplevel" body line 16)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 4)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set nrec [db $db openid $nextrecfsid]
if {$version >= 3} {
set nrecbeh [dbobj $nrec get RecordingBehavior..."
Sunday 02:50:01 : Attempting to recover
Sunday 02:50:31 : Woken up
Sunday 02:50:31 : Error detected
Sunday 02:50:31 : no such object: {CONFLICT err=errTmActiveLockConflict}
while executing
"dbobj $nprogram get Title"
("uplevel" body line 16)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 4)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set nrec [db $db openid $nextrecfsid]
if {$version >= 3} {
set nrecbeh [dbobj $nrec get RecordingBehavior..."
Sunday 02:50:31 : Attempting to recover
Sunday 02:50:31 : Too many errors, stopping
Wednesday 20:08:47 :
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Old 12-28-2005, 07:09 PM   #1175
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Just very bad luck; occasionally when trying to access the database it's busy after several retries and returns ActiveLockConflict. You got two in succession so EndPad quit.
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Old 01-09-2006, 05:27 PM   #1176
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Does endpad.tcl care what the time zone is? By default, TZ is unset, but for me, that leads to confusing time (in the log). Would endpad.tcl still work with export TZ=EST5EDT4 (or whatever)?
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Old 01-09-2006, 06:35 PM   #1177
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If you use the new version, endpad-1.4.2-md5, you can specify the timezone with the -tz option. Unfortunately it still doesn't know to automatically change for summer time.
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Old 01-09-2006, 09:01 PM   #1178
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Nice! I've upgraded...

Incidentally, I believe if you modified it to call out to the shell and use 'date' instead of tcl's clock function for formatting then you could have it automatically change in the summer.

E.g., at the bash prompt:

TZ=EST5EDT4 date

does the right thing.
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Old 01-10-2006, 06:09 AM   #1179
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I think there is another mention of this error earlier in the thread. I also see the problem. I'm running md5 with vanilla config, startpad 1, endpad 3.

Quote:
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal........................
Tuesday 03:55:01 : Woken up
Tuesday 03:55:02 : Error detected
Tuesday 03:55:02 : no such object: {CONFLICT err=errTmActiveLockConflict}
while executing
"dbobj $cstation get CallSign"
("uplevel" body line 11)
invoked from within
"uplevel $body"
invoked from within
"transaction {uplevel $body}"
(procedure "RetryTransaction" line 4)
invoked from within
"RetryTransaction {
set crec [db $db openid $recfsid]
if {$version >= 3} {
set crecbeh [dbobj $crec get RecordingBehavi..."
Tuesday 03:55:02 : Attempting to recover
Tuesday 03:55:32 : Woken up

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Old 01-10-2006, 02:27 PM   #1180
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Endpad is one of the main reasons I just recently got networked but looking at this 30 page thread I'm getting a bit scared. Are these issues that caused the 30 page thread all resolved? Are the recent error-log posts caused by people customising endpad incorrectly?

Hmmmm. I really wanna try it...
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:30 PM   #1181
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Honestly? You can safely use the current version and not have problems. For the majority of us, it runs with no problem year in year out.
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Old 01-10-2006, 02:39 PM   #1182
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Honestly? You can safely use the current version and not have problems. For the majority of us, it runs with no problem year in year out.
Sweeeeet

I wondered about the log file size. Is there a maximum log size? Or is it ever-expanding ?

Could use some extra info on the readme.txt (it's not written for dummies, which I still am at this stage)...

Stuart said "Copy to the TiVo using binary mode FTP", but he didn't say where it should be copied to. I assume because it's a tcl file it should be the tivoweb modules folder ... right?

He also said "then chmod 755 endpad.tcl" .... I assume I need to telnet and enter that command while in the same folder as where the file is ... right ?

Starting and stopping is not entirely clear. Do I need to run cron ? If not then do I need to start endpad each time my tivo decides to reboot itself ?

What's rc.sysinit.author ? Is that a way of making it fully automatic ? So we don't need to type the start and stop commands ?

Sorry for the noob questions but I don't want to get my tivo in a state where it won't work, and doing this wrong I guess could easily cause that.

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Old 01-10-2006, 03:15 PM   #1183
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Log files reset themselves every day.

Copy the file wherever you want. In fact the /modules directory is probably the only place I'd say NOT to put it. I guess most folks just put in /var/hack but it doesn't matter.

Yes, use telnet like that.

No, you don't need to run cron.

Yes, if the command to start endpad is in rc.sysinit.author then EndPad will launch every time the machine starts up.
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Old 01-10-2006, 03:24 PM   #1184
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Thanks Stuart

I got it going, reading the log it seems to be working great

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Old 01-10-2006, 03:45 PM   #1185
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Incidentally, I believe if you modified it to call out to the shell and use 'date' instead of tcl's clock function for formatting then you could have it automatically change in the summer.

E.g., at the bash prompt:

TZ=EST5EDT4 date

does the right thing.
That may not work on all different TiVo software versions. TivoWeb has an enormously complicated routine (that I still haven't sussed out completely, although it does use the date command in places) to work out the timezone offset in each version. Apart from pasting in that code (which would make endpad rather larger), I didn't fancy trying to sort this out myself.
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Old 01-11-2006, 03:29 AM   #1186
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Tivoweb also doesnt start. I have to start it manually , so I guess your right the call for the run script is not finishing. Any ideas how I can check it?
I'm having the same issue. I can start it manually but it doesn't start automatically. Here's my rc.sysinit.author file as per the readme file:

#!/bin/bash
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/var/hack/endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 5 -sugqual 0 -sugeq -auto >> dev/null &
/var/hack/tytools/tserver -s /var/hack/tytools/NowShowing.tcl &
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Old 01-11-2006, 03:33 AM   #1187
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I have

/var/hack/endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 5 -sugqual 75 -sugeq -auto .. /dev/null &

so 2 dots... not 2 >>

Mine works fine
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Old 01-11-2006, 03:48 AM   #1188
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so 2 dots... not 2 >> Mine works fine
That did the trick it seems. Thanks cashew The one-minute dots are ticking along nicely
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Old 01-11-2006, 04:16 AM   #1189
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/var/hack/endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 5 -sugqual 0 -sugeq -auto >> /dev/null &

is the correct command i.e. the leading '/' is the change to the readme
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Old 01-11-2006, 04:21 AM   #1190
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/var/hack/endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 5 -sugqual 0 -sugeq -auto >> /dev/null &

is the correct command i.e. the leading '/' is the change to the readme
Thanks Fozzie, I had a feeling that might be right with /dev/null because that's what that snowrides dude further up this thread had but his wasn't working so I wasn't sure.
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Old 01-22-2006, 06:43 PM   #1191
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Great Routine - Thank You.

1 question though.

Quite often the programs I record run end to end on different channels. EG coronation street on a Monday at 7:30-8:00 then Eastenders from 8:00-8:30 followed by the street again 8:30 to 9:00.

Often the 1st Coronation street runs a bit late, although I can endpad it, I can't because of eastenders starting at 8-00. Now I'm quite happy to have eastenders to start 1 minute late, and corrie to run over by that 1 minute.

Is that possible?

Eastenders to start 1 minute late, corrie to always run over 1 minute?
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Is that possible?

Eastenders to start 1 minute late, corrie to always run over 1 minute?
I think it the following would work, but let someone else (especially stuart) confirm it though:

Endpad set to startpadding=4mins, end padding = whatever you like

set coronation street SP to have +1 min of hard padding in it's SP (that should stop endpad from wanting to give it any padding at all I think).

set eastenders to be a MANUAL SP that runs 8:05 - 8:30. Endpad should add 4 mins to the beginning (giving you your 8:01) and your chosen padding at the end.

Not entirely sure this would work as I've suggested, I'm making assumptions of Endpad based purely on a short amount of experience of it. Plus I don't know if a manual repeat recording is useful for eastenders, I don't know if it's always on the same day.
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What you are after is negative padding for Eastenders. It's often been discussed; have a search on "negative padding" in this thread and others and see if anyone has come up with a suitable solution for you.
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I don't know if a manual repeat recording is useful for eastenders, I don't know if it's always on the same day.
Thanks for the suggestion

Unfortunately (in many ways ) Eastenders is on multiple nights of the week, and does change times especially around holidays.

Anyone any more suggestions?
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I have an autorecord wishlist for "Eastenders" with 5 mins end padding, a BBC 1 season pass (no padding) and BBC3 season pass (no padding), in that order.

Usually between these three and endpad of start 1 and end 5, I get all episodes each week with 1min start padding and 5 minutes end padding recorded at either 7:30'ish (BBC1 ) or 10:00 (BBC3). Wife happy, me happy as not bumping out recordings made earlier in the evening. The wishlist also gets the weekend omnibus edition as well, which is handy to prevent my death in the week if for some reason an episode is not recorded.
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Anyone any more suggestions?
Either a second TiVo or record the omnibus editions shown at the weekend.
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Thumbs up New version, new thread

I have made a new version of EndPad, incorporating tym's fix (with a minor correction) into endpad-1.4.2-md5, and improving the documentation. Since we've been running this for some time without problems, I decided to bump the version number to EndPad 1.5.0.

sanderton suggested I start a new thread when the new version was ready, so I posted it there. Please continue EndPad discussions there (Stuart said he'd update the top post and have this thread locked).
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