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Old 06-27-2005, 03:40 PM   #1051
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I too have a problem with endpad stopping. Not sure if its related. Can anyone suggest a cure. This is my log file:

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Monday 20:35:33 :
Monday 20:35:33 : endpad.tcl 1.4.2 log file, starting up
Monday 20:35:33 : Start padding set to 60 seconds
Monday 20:35:33 : End padding set to 300 seconds
Monday 20:35:33 : Suggestions will be padded, even if that means cancelling a subsequent suggestion
Monday 20:35:33 : Detected TiVo software version 2.5.5-01-1-023
Monday 20:35:33 : Suggestion quality change disabled
Monday 20:35:33 : Woken up
Monday 20:35:33 : Error detected
Monday 20:35:33 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
while executing
"if {$rectype == 3} {

# Recording active
set isrec 1

# Get details of currently recording programme
R..."
Monday 20:35:33 : Attempting to recover
Monday 20:36:03 : Woken up
Monday 20:36:03 : Error detected
Monday 20:36:03 : can't read "rectype": no such variable
while executing
"if {$rectype == 3} {

# Recording active
set isrec 1

# Get details of currently recording programme
R..."
Monday 20:36:03 : Attempting to recover
Monday 20:36:03 : Too many errors, stopping
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:35 AM   #1052
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Odd; it seems there is a show recording when you launched EndPad, but it can't access the details of it from the database.

It might be that the database was very busy and rejecting requests.

Have you tried starting it manually?

Alternatively, is your TiVo'd To Do List completely empty?
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Old 06-28-2005, 01:56 PM   #1053
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Thanks for the reply Stuart. I just started it manually and got a different failure. Maybe I will reboot the box when it's not in use and see if that helps. This is the latest log:

Mike

Tuesday 18:54:50 :
Tuesday 18:54:50 : endpad.tcl 1.4.2 log file, starting up
Tuesday 18:54:50 : Start padding set to 60 seconds
Tuesday 18:54:50 : End padding set to 240 seconds
Tuesday 18:54:50 : Suggestions will be padded, even if that means cancelling a subsequent suggestion
Tuesday 18:54:50 : Detected TiVo software version 2.5.5-01-1-023
Tuesday 18:54:50 : Suggestion quality change disabled
Tuesday 18:54:50 : Woken up
Tuesday 18:54:51 : Error detected
Tuesday 18:54:51 : can't read "nextbutonerecstartdate": no such variable
while executing
"expr $nextbutonerecstartdate * 86400 + $nextbutonerecstarttime"
Tuesday 18:54:51 : Attempting to recover
Tuesday 18:55:21 : Woken up
Tuesday 18:55:21 : Error detected
Tuesday 18:55:21 : can't read "nextbutonerecstartdate": no such variable
while executing
"expr $nextbutonerecstartdate * 86400 + $nextbutonerecstarttime"
Tuesday 18:55:21 : Attempting to recover
Tuesday 18:55:21 : Too many errors, stopping
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Old 06-28-2005, 03:32 PM   #1054
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Looks to me like you've installed it on a "blank" TiVo - EndPad will fail if there are less than two things in the Now Playing list. Add some schedules recordings and it should be OK.

Really Really Must Fix That.
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Old 06-29-2005, 07:41 AM   #1055
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You could be right. There was only one scheduled recording for Top Gear that evening. I will schedule some more and try again.

Thanks,

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Old 06-30-2005, 10:10 AM   #1056
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Just a quick thank-you. This has been installed less than 48hours and has already saved me from the wrath of SWMBO!
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:35 AM   #1057
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I'm running endpad on my 6.2 and it working good.

I do have one question. Should it be trying to add time to recordings I am inserting with mfs_ftp?
Code:
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal............................... 
Tuesday 05:55:05 : Woken up
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Recording {CSI: NY} on CT3 now
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 03:00
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Next recording is {TiVo Service Data} on TIVOR at 06:30
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Gap to next programme is 8911800 seconds
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Added 180 seconds end padding to {CSI: NY}
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Next end padding setting due 06:55
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Next start padding setting due 06:27
Tuesday 05:55:07 : Next wake up will be 06:25
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal............................... 
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Woken up
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Recording {CSI: NY} on CT3 now
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 04:00
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Next recording is {TiVo Service Data} on TIVOR at 06:30
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Gap to next programme is 11932200 seconds
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Added 180 seconds end padding to {CSI: NY}
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Next end padding setting due 06:55
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Not time to add start padding yet
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Next start padding setting due 06:27
Tuesday 06:25:07 : Next wake up will be 06:27
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal... 
Tuesday 06:27:00 : Woken up
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Recording {CSI: NY} on CT3 now
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Recording Scheduled End Time: 04:03
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Next recording is {TiVo Service Data} on TIVOR at 06:30
Tuesday 06:27:01 : No end padding required:
Tuesday 06:27:01 : End padding of 180 seconds already set
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Next end padding setting due 06:55
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Gap to previous recording is 11932020 seconds
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Added 120 seconds start padding to {TiVo Service Data}
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Next start padding setting due 06:55
Tuesday 06:27:01 : Next wake up will be 06:55
Sleeping, checking every minute for kill signal.............................
Also some requests is you ever make any updates.
I do my own log rolling so it would be nice if there was a flag to disable that. I just commented it out in the code. Also I run it from /usr/local/bin so I had to change where it writes the endpad.err to /var/tmp it would be nice if we had only one log file.
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Old 07-19-2005, 10:59 AM   #1058
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It does attempt to pad mfs_ftp inserts, but it didn't seem to have any ill effects when I tested it so I didn't bother making it ignore them.

I suspect that anyone who needs a non-standard setup is probably well capable of making the code alterations.
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Old 07-20-2005, 10:03 AM   #1059
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Bit of a complex one, this. I've set the Soft Padding so that any suggestion is recorded at Medium.

What I'd like is for any suggestion recorded off BBC Radio 2, 4 and 7 be recorded in Basic.

I can't find any way to easily specify channel quality.

I suspect that this is beyond the scope of this program... but I'd like to be proved wrong!

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Old 07-20-2005, 10:07 AM   #1060
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I'm guessing here, but if you were to use VBR bitrates, I would expect the static picture to use a very low bitrate.
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:08 AM   #1061
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You could adapt the code easily enough to choose a quality based on station. There are commenets in the code if you want to try and work it out!

Ian's suggestion is easier.
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Old 07-27-2005, 02:13 PM   #1062
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Is there any easy way of putting or a tutorial walking me through) the endpad startup line into the rc.sysint.author?

I know PC's I don't know linux and all this changing mode malarky is probably simple but seems complex to me. All I want is to make endpas start up on bootup, I have Tivoweb and Endpad on the tivo, and to be honest I don't want to add a text editor to add one line to a boot file...
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:01 PM   #1063
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This is how I did it without a text editor...

Code:
mount -o remount,rw /
echo "/var/hack/scripts/endpad.tcl -s 1 -e 3 -auto >> dev/null &" >> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
mount -o remount,ro /
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Old 07-27-2005, 04:29 PM   #1064
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I think it would be a better idea to add endpad to /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit.author

If you're going to append it to rc.sysinit using the commands in the previous post please remember to use two chevrons and not one otherwise you'll zap your main startup script and be left with a doorstop!!!!
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Old 07-28-2005, 04:23 PM   #1065
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Re: New version with channel-specific padding

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Originally Posted by sanderton
Got it! Found the bug-ger. 1.4.2 is now in the top post.

For those who have forked the code, the issue in line 439...
I've applied this fix to my version of endpad (adds channel-specific padding and a few other improvements). You can find it here or attached to this message.

Sorry for the delay in posting. I wanted to check that it didn't cause any new problems and then forgot about it. It should also have been tried by someone who asked for the update in a private e-mail some time ago.

Stuart, would you now consider updating the standard version with my changes? It has worked for me without problems for the last 3+ months. It should be entirely upwardly compatible with your version. The changes in the code are mostly "round the edges". The core logic is the same, it just picks up the parameters in a different (possibly channel-specific) way. It does all I want and I have now moved onto other projects (teletext decoding at the moment), so don't plan any continued development in the near future. However I'm happy to help support it (though you're doing a pretty good job of that!) - particularly the new features.

This would mean that bug fixes need only be applied once, and would allow people to find it without wading through 1000+ posts. It would be nice to avoid another fork (or should I have started with EndPadPlus in the first place?).

However if you really don't want to take on this version, would you alternatively consider posting a separate link and/or attachment to the top of the thread ("extended version with channel-specific settings"), so at least people can find it if they want to.

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Old 07-28-2005, 04:45 PM   #1066
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Smile channel-specific suggestion recording quality

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Bit of a complex one, this. I've set the Soft Padding so that any suggestion is recorded at Medium.

What I'd like is for any suggestion recorded off BBC Radio 2, 4 and 7 be recorded in Basic.

I can't find any way to easily specify channel quality.
This should be possible with my modified version endpad. See the last post for the latest version, and my earlier post for some documentation. To set the suggestion recording quality to Basic for those radio stations, you can put
Code:
channel BBCR2,BBCR4FM,BBCR7 sugqual 0
in a file endpad.config. You can either specify the other options in the file (see my post for details), or keep them on the command line. Suggestions on other channels will be recorded with the global 'sugqual' setting that you have already set.

I record everything in Basic anyway, so I haven't tried this option. Let me know how you get on.

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Old 07-31-2005, 06:23 PM   #1067
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Sanderton:

Excellent program - can't wait to see it in action!

One thing - the readme file still calls for an incorrect rc.sysinit.author line - the readme calls for "dev/null" while it should be "/dev/null" of course... might want to fix that.
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Old 08-02-2005, 06:51 AM   #1068
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Following a period of anger from my partner regarding the end missing off Sundays recording of "Where the heart is" (because TiVo was recording "Pelican Brief" straight after on C5) this morning I decided to have a go at the negative padding problem.

If you want to try it bear the following in mind:
1. Can't say how stable it is (though its been working fine for the last hour on my tivo)
2. Can't say if it'll work ok on a US tivo (as i haven't got one!)
3. Not sure if its going to affect the 28 day rule (though with the implementation i don't see why it would)
4. I'm happy to address any bugs/modifications but don't hold me responsible for any adverse affects.
5. Give major thanks (which i do) to Stuart Anderton, author of the original & awsome code

So here it is :-)

P.S. Use the same syntax as the original.
eg stop endpad with "endpad.tcl -stop"
and start endpad with "endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 2 -n 1" (where n = negative start padding)
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... start endpad with "endpad.tcl -s 2 -e 2 -n 1" (where n = negative start padding)
Wouldn't n have to be at least as large as (if not equal to) e? Or will e be automatically reduced to the same value as n, if an overlap occurs.
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Or will e be automatically reduced to the same value as n, if an overlap occurs.
Exactly. Basically what happens is that if the gap is smaller than 'n' then the start of the following program gets delayed so the gap is exactly 'n'. Then endpad's default process continues by adding as much endpadding as possible - in this case, only 1 minute.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:47 PM   #1071
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Tim,

Someone had asked a few pages back, but was not responded to, would it be possible to include some sort of configuration by time of day.

We have problems with stations running mostly to time during the day, but running well over starting at 7:30pm and continue right through to 6am. Some days they can be up to 20 minutes late.

Using your example it would be good if we could alter the config file to something like:

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channel BBC1STH,BBC2STH,BBC4 endpad 5
time 1930 0000 channel BBC1STH,BBC2STH,BBC4 endpad 20
time 0000 0600 channel BBC1STH,BBC2STH,BBC4 endpad 20
channel SKYONE startpad 1
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Also how about adding padding depending on programme name ?

eg
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channel BBC1STH,BBC2STH,BBC4 endpad 5
Casualty endpad 15
ie add endpadding of 15 minutes to a programme call casualty.
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Also how about adding padding depending on programme name ?
Or adding padding to the end of that, plus all subsequent programmes on the same channel until (say) 6am.
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Thumbs up New version with time-dependent padding

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Someone had asked a few pages back, but was not responded to, would it be possible to include some sort of configuration by time of day.
Hi Peter,

OK, this new version should do what you want. You can now specify a validity period in the endpad.config file.
Code:
validity 17-23 startpad 1
channel BBC1STH,BBC2STH validity 19:30-06:00 endpad 20
The former is for all channels, while the latter is only for the BBC, and wraps around midnight (7:30pm to 6am). If the programme is scheduled to start within the validity period, then those options come into effect (channel-specific settings take precedence over time-dependent settings, which take precedence over global settings).

One restriction, that I hope won't be too onerous, is that the validity period is given in a fixed time zone. You can now specify a time zone with the -tz option (eg. -tz 01:00 for BST) and this is used for the validity period and also for EndPad's log file messages. However this will not be automatically changed when BST ends next month. That shouldn't be serious: if you miss this, you'll just get the different padding applied an hour earlier or later, but I guess the definition of "evening schedules" is anyway not so precise.

For the record, I also improved the methods used for options parsing and background task invocation. See my earlier post for a summary of my other changes.

I'm still concerned that EndPad is branching into different versions: apart from mine and Stuart's original, there's also shanew's negative padding and EndPadPlus (a rewrite to support dual tuners), and perhaps more. Stuart, what did you think of my previous suggestion to update the version at the head of this thread, or to at least to reference the other versions? shanew, should we try to merge our versions?

Anyway, enjoy!

Tim.

PS. Stuart, the Cancer Research donation page doesn't seem to work any more. Should I donate direct? Sorry, I know it's taken me long enough (6 months!) to get round to it.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:36 AM   #1075
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Wow, thanks Tim.

Endpad has certainly been developed into a very flexible add-on.

I will download your new version and give it a run over the next week.

At the moment I am wasting a lot of hard drive space by endpadding all shows an extra 18min, when really only the late night shows need it.

Thanks, I'll report back after a week of usage.

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Great Tim. It was probably me who was subtly-pleading for time-based padding.

I would be interested in the merging of Shanew's negative padding, but has anybody tried it and found it stable in the long-term? I always knew that negative padding wasn't going to be that simple, or Stuart would have included it in his version.
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Good stuff Tim.

Thank's for pointing out the expired link. The URL still gets you to a Cancer Research donation page, so if anyone would like to make a doantion for their EndPad use, please use that.
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I'm strongly in favour of merging versions - I found the dailymail mail thread a nightmare!
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Tim - are you happy thet the latest mods are stable?

If so let's rechristen this 1.5 and I'll amend the top post.
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Tim - are you happy thet the latest mods are stable?
Yes, I'm happy with them. However since petestrash (and maybe iankb?) said they'd give it a go, why don't we wait a week to check that it works for someone other than me.

The only other change I have considered in detail was to make the timezone setting automatic. I guess I could borrow the code from TivoWeb, but that looks pretty haphazard.
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If so let's rechristen this 1.5 and I'll amend the top post.
That would be great. Thanks!

What do you think about merging in shanew's negative padding changes? I haven't tried it out yet, but the code changes look like they are fairly self-contained, so won't be activated unless someone specifies negative padding.

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