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Old 12-10-2013, 03:53 PM   #91
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Man women watch stupid TV! My wife almost exclusively watches reality TV and talk shows. We watch a few network shows together, like CSI, Criminal Minds and The Mentalist, but for the most part she spends her TV time watching Real Housewives, Teen Mom, Dance Moms, etc... I can't even stand listening to that crap when I'm in the other room playing on my iPad let alone actually watching it.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:49 PM   #92
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Man women watch stupid TV! My wife almost exclusively watches reality TV and talk shows. We watch a few network shows together, like CSI, Criminal Minds and The Mentalist, but for the most part she spends her TV time watching Real Housewives, Teen Mom, Dance Moms, etc... I can't even stand listening to that crap when I'm in the other room playing on my iPad let alone actually watching it.
A lot of men watch stupid reality drama TV too. I hate it.

As for the video incorrect scaling, I am 100% with you. I can tolerate SD on occasion, but it better be at the native aspect ratio or *BARF*.
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I literally never watching anything SD except industry screeners which are beginning to pour in as always this time of year. And even that annoys me!! I mean hell you're trying to impress me with your product, the least you can do is deliver it on bluray.
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Old 12-11-2013, 08:47 AM   #94
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I would be happy if the content was delivered in 1080p before worrying about 4K. Only DirecTv and maybe DISH will have the bandwidth to even consider more than maybe one or two 4K channels anyway. Im waiting for an affordable 60" OLED that isnt curved. I would be much more interested in spending my cash on that.
The curved sets are just horrible. It serves no purpose other than to make the set look "cool".
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I read an article that specifically quoted LG and Samsung as saying that the current price points on OLED are so high that they went with the curved screen specifically to make them look cool and appeal to the type of people that can actually afford them. If they made them flat they wouldn't look much different then LCD TVs but with a much higher price.

As the technology improves and becomes more reasonable then it will eventually replace LCD for high end flat TVs.
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[...]If they made them flat they wouldn't look much different then LCD TVs but with a much higher price.

As the technology improves and becomes more reasonable then it will eventually replace LCD for high end flat TVs.
I wouldn't be too sure. Remember, LCD today is not LCD of 20 years ago or 10 years ago or even a few years ago. That technology is improving continuously also. At this point, the gap between LCD and LED is closing more and more. At the point LED sets are actually affordable, there might be little to no advantage of LED anymore...

Look at LCD vs. LED displays on phones. Personally, I find the LCD ones to be much sharper and pleasant to look at. The LED ones have a little bit blacker blacks and a little better viewing angle. But they also wash out a lot easier.
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I think the big advantage of OLED is that they're capable of being paper thin (hence the ability to have a curved screen) and super light. They'll eventually be able to make huge TVs that are light enough to be hung on the wall like a painting without special mounts. This would also significantly cut the costs of shipping and reduce storage space in warehouses. It's been a while since I read about it but I think that they are also easier to manufacturer. I know they have yield problems right now, and that's what's driving up costs, but I believe that they make OLED screens by basically printing them on a giant inkjet. As the materials improve, yields will improve, and OLEDs should eventually be cheaper then LCDs to make. But who knows. They've been improving LCD so fast that all the advantages of OLED may become irrelevant by the time they come to fruition.
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A lot of people I know are watching SD on a nice HDTV, it not my problem, but some of these people also stretch the SD picture to fill the screen UG!!
My GFs mom does this. WHen they got DirecTV they only got STBs. I told them to get the DVRs and make sure they could get HD but didn't listen. So for no extra cost they could have had HD DVRs for their TVs. Instead, they only are SD capable on their HD sets. Although she is in her late 80's so I guess I can give her some slack.
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The worst is if they use one of those non-linear scaling modes that stretches the edges more than the middle. Whenever the camera pans horizontally I get seasick.

I find myself looking for someplace to sit where the TV is out of sight whenever I'm at the house of someone who does that.
I used to use that mode back in 2001. I thought it was better than the linear stretch. But sometime in 2002 I stopped stretching anything and viewing it in the normal aspect ratio. Since then I can't stand any type of stretching of 4:3 content.
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I read an article that specifically quoted LG and Samsung as saying that the current price points on OLED are so high that they went with the curved screen specifically to make them look cool and appeal to the type of people that can actually afford them. If they made them flat they wouldn't look much different then LCD TVs but with a much higher price.

As the technology improves and becomes more reasonable then it will eventually replace LCD for high end flat TVs.
I couldn't stand the curved OLED that BestBuy had. And several feet away was the Sony 84" 4K set. Which was much better looking than the OLED.
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I think the big advantage of OLED is that they're capable of being paper thin (hence the ability to have a curved screen) and super light. They'll eventually be able to make huge TVs that are light enough to be hung on the wall like a painting without special mounts. This would also significantly cut the costs of shipping and reduce storage space in warehouses.
Yeah, I don't think LCD will be getting all THAT much lighter or thinner than what the best offered now is. Then they would offer *MONITORS* instead- no speakers, no tuners, no "smart" crap, then an LED TV could theoretically be extremely thin... like just a few mm or less. They will have more problems just trying to keep them from "curling"
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I read an article that specifically quoted LG and Samsung as saying that the current price points on OLED are so high that they went with the curved screen specifically to make them look cool and appeal to the type of people that can actually afford them. If they made them flat they wouldn't look much different then LCD TVs but with a much higher price..
I read the same article
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I think the big advantage of OLED is that they're capable of being paper thin (hence the ability to have a curved screen) and super light. They'll eventually be able to make huge TVs that are light enough to be hung on the wall like a painting without special mounts. This would also significantly cut the costs of shipping and reduce storage space in warehouses. It's been a while since I read about it but I think that they are also easier to manufacturer. I know they have yield problems right now, and that's what's driving up costs, but I believe that they make OLED screens by basically printing them on a giant inkjet. As the materials improve, yields will improve, and OLEDs should eventually be cheaper then LCDs to make. But who knows. They've been improving LCD so fast that all the advantages of OLED may become irrelevant by the time they come to fruition.
OLED's picture quality is their best feature. There is no backlight on an OLED TV, and they have excellent black levels. Also, better contrast than LED or LCD backlit TV's, and no "blooming" to contend with.

It will take years, but I believe that once OLED matures, and becomes more affordable, it will be the high end display of choice with LED being the mainstream (lower end) offering. For the record, I have a local dimming LED TV, so I have nothing against LED. I just believe that OLED is going to be the future.
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OLED's picture quality is their best feature. There is no backlight on an OLED TV, and they have excellent black levels. Also, better contrast than LED or LCD backlit TV's, and no "blooming" to contend with.

It will take years, but I believe that once OLED matures, and becomes more affordable, it will be the high end display of choice with LED being the mainstream (lower end) offering. For the record, I have a local dimming LED TV, so I have nothing against LED. I just believe that OLED is going to be the future.
In about 5 to 10 years you may be correct, OLED has been out, what about 8 years now ? and we are just starting to OLED HDTV with big screens and big prices.
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