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Old 11-05-2012, 12:44 PM   #31
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(...) I think the Dean's circumstances for trusting Benny make way more sense than Sam trusting Ruby.
If I were Sam, my big complaint would be Dean not telling me about Benny.

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Speaking of Cas, since his "vessel" was human I think he have could have gotten out of purgatory as well.
I thought it was only their souls in Purgatory, not their bodies. Was Cas's vessel ever there?
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:59 PM   #32
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I thought it was only their souls in Purgatory, not their bodies. Was Cas's vessel ever there?
This is correct. Remember Dean had to drop Benny's soul into is grave. They only show us them as they are normally because how else would they show it?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:10 PM   #33
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Angels and monsters don't have souls, unless I'm missing something about the Supernatural universe.

I'll accept the argument that purgatory was holding their "essence" (including Dean's soul).
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:18 PM   #34
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If that was the case, how did Dean get his body back?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #35
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Also, when Dean and Cas entered purgatory, their bodies disappeared. So I thought their bodies followed them.

If Dean and Cas dropped dead with Sam crying about it, but then have the show cut into purgatory, that would make sense then. However hunter tradition, would mean Sam would burn the bodies, so Dean and Cas would have no vessels to come back to.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:40 PM   #36
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This is correct. Remember Dean had to drop Benny's soul into is grave.
That didn't make sense to me after the events of this episode though. Wasn't Benny killed by his "father" for disloyalty? Why would they bury the body instead of just dumping it at sea or something?
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:22 PM   #38
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I WANT ANSWERS! Just kidding..

I'm not trying to nitpick on the show. I just thought that Benny could hitch a ride using Dean, why couldn't Castiel do the same since he's using a human vessel.

I could be happy just accepting what they told us so far, the idea will just gnaw at me for some time.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:23 PM   #39
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Okay so Dean is 100% there body and soul. Cas I think as well but it's not clear because of this conversation. Benny obviously is just his soul.

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I have to agree with the vampire, Dean. The risk of crossing Purgatory with a seraph - it's... less than strategic, and certainly when we have no reason to believe that I can pass through the door that you're headed for.

BENNY
You see, you're an intact, living human being stuck in Purgatory's craw. This dimension wants to spit you out, which is exactly what's gonna power our escape pod. Now, I'm pretty sure I can squeeze through, too, because, after all, you take away the fangs and the fun, I was born human, too. But...

CASTIEL
I don't think it would work for me.

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You hear what he's telling you, Dean? Your buddy is saying –

DEAN
Listen to me, you undead blood junkie, I'm the one with the mojo. I'm the one with the plan. Cas... we're gonna shove your ass back through the eye of that needle if it kills all three of us.

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Obviously, I'm less than comfortable with that.
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I had to look it up.... I love the show, but don't focus on the lore of it too much.. I just want Rock an roll, monsters, and kicking ass.
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I had to look it up.... I love the show, but don't focus on the lore of it too much.. I just want Rock an roll, monsters, and kicking ass.
And brother hugs. For the love of Jeff, don't forget my brother hugs!
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:16 PM   #42
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And brother hugs. For the love of Jeff, don't forget my brother hugs!
Don't you mean for the love of Chuck?
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