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Old 03-26-2014, 10:02 AM   #2491
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I for one am glad that you have driven that point home, unitron. As disappointing as it is to know that I likely need to return this to Amazon and get a new one, it would be a thousand times more frustrating to have gotten through the process of the upgrade and then later had the problem after it was in service in the Premiere. Not to mention, by that time, the 30 day return/exchange at Amazon would have expired.

As noted above, I did re-start the Extended Test. It is now 9 hours and 45 minutes in and about 72% complete, and still running with about 3 hours 45 minutes remaining. It did experience some stalling, several times at about the same time point and Current Sector count as when the failure occurred during my first Extended Test, but did continue and since then has been running smoothly so far as I know. During that stalling period, there was notably more noise coming from the HDD, like rubbing or even light grinding sound. That can't be good.

I'll update upon completion of the Extended Test.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:18 PM   #2492
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After 13 hours and 28 minutes, the second Extended Test completed. Failed with "Too many bad sectors detected." message.

Called Amazon, and they are overnighting a replacement so I'll have it tomorrow, and emailed USP return shipping label, all at no additional charge to me. You gotta love Amazon's customer service.

Thanks again to unitron for driving home the Extended Test of any new HDD before installing in a TiVo, and to Cybernut for pointing me to the Win7 version of the Western Digital Data LifeGuard Diagnostics.

Crossing my fingers that WD20EURX #2 passes the Extended Test with no incident.
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Old 03-27-2014, 04:28 AM   #2493
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I wouldn't put the drive in the trash until I'd tested it on another computer or three, but your results so far are not encouraging and illustrate why I say always run the manufacturer's long test on any new (or new to you) drive before putting it into service.

You may have done everything right and just wound up with a bad one. It doesn't happen really often, but it does happen.
I just got the same drive last week from Amazon and I agree. The EURX is working well and I just put it in my OLED a few hours ago. Sometimes they ship drives with problems.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:12 AM   #2494
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The 2nd WD20EURX from Amazon passed both Quick and Extended Tests. Yippie! On to the next step.....

Cracking open one of my babys... to pull out its stock 320GB HDD.

I'll review the beginning of this thread (jfms) before starting, but is there anything glaring that I need to know? From my first pass throuth it seemed like a relatively simple process, mostly completely automated (as long as the jfms tool can see my drives through the USB/SATA adapters).
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:44 AM   #2495
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The 2nd WD20EURX from Amazon passed both Quick and Extended Tests. Yippie! On to the next step.....

Cracking open one of my babys... to pull out its stock 320GB HDD.

I'll review the beginning of this thread (jfms) before starting, but is there anything glaring that I need to know? From my first pass throuth it seemed like a relatively simple process, mostly completely automated (as long as the jfms tool can see my drives through the USB/SATA adapters).
You might want to familiarize yourself with the DvrBARS thread as well and make a backup image as long as you've got the drive hooked to a PC.
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:47 PM   #2496
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Good idea unitron. I'll do that, and I think DvrBARS works with Win7 and the USB/SATA Adapter right? (no DOS boot disk stuff).

The jfms went smoothly, just under 6 hours using the old Dell and 2 USB/SATA adapters. I have not put the new WD20EURX in the TiVo yet.

I don't have a PC with SATA, so I can't run wdidle3 to check/disable Intellipark. Is that a big deal with the new WD20EURX? If so, I can see if I can get access to a friend's PC for a bit.

Last question (for this post anyway). What about the Acoustic Management stuff? Is that something I should do on the new WD20EURX? If so, which is the best utility to use and what settings?
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Old 03-29-2014, 05:13 PM   #2497
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I wouldn't worry too much about wdidle on a new EURX. I have about half a dozen recent EURS and EURX drives, and none of them needed it.

Pretty much the same goes for acoustic management, though your mileage may vary. I'm running my 4TB XL and a factory 3TB Roamio Pro with the covers off and I can't hear anything from about 9 feet away.

DvrBARS will read any drive that Windows can see (USB, SATA, eSATA etc). The only requirement is XP (SP2) or later and the drivers to support your chosen method of connection. If you have something weird like my ASUS USB3/SATA combo card it may take additional drivers, but in general it's just Plug & Play.

Snapping at least a truncated backup after your initial setup as unitron suggested is a good idea. You never know when a drive might die, and when it does that 2GB backup may come in handy.
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:46 PM   #2498
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When running DvrBARS on my laptop (Win7/64 Enterprise) I got CreatFile (Error 0x00000005 (5). Not sure why, but couldn't get DvrBARS to run.

So I ran it on my wife's laptop(Win7/64 Home) and it had a hiccup the first time, but restarted and it ran fine. Took a little over 2.5 hours to do a Truncated Backup of the new 2TB WD20EURX and created a file about 250GB. Why is this file so big if it doesn't have any of my shows on it? Did it count the zeros it writes where the shows are? Now I just need to zip it and store it somewhere. Was hoping for a much smaller file.

The new WD20EURX is installed back in the TiVo Premiere and working (haven't recorded anything yet, got "The Walking Dead" S4 Finale tonight to test it though) and shows 318 Hours HD Recording and only 7% full...
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:38 PM   #2499
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When running DvrBARS on my laptop (Win7/64 Enterprise) I got CreatFile (Error 0x00000005 (5). Not sure why, but couldn't get DvrBARS to run.

So I ran it on my wife's laptop(Win7/64 Home) and it had a hiccup the first time, but restarted and it ran fine. Took a little over 2.5 hours to do a Truncated Backup of the new 2TB WD20EURX and created a file about 250GB. Why is this file so big if it doesn't have any of my shows on it? Did it count the zeros it writes where the shows are? Now I just need to zip it and store it somewhere. Was hoping for a much smaller file.

The new WD20EURX is installed back in the TiVo Premiere and working (haven't recorded anything yet, got "The Walking Dead" S4 Finale tonight to test it though) and shows 318 Hours HD Recording and only 7% full...
That error is "access denied". Must be a permissions issue.

The oversize file on a truncated backup is something I'm still working on. TiVo has changed something in the latest OS that seems to invalidate the code that I use to to exclude recordings. It's a moving target and right now it's moving faster than I can keep up. Sorry about that, but when it comes to giving away free software or the job that pays my mortgage work comes first.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:39 PM   #2500
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Hey, No Worries, I was just curious. The good thing is that I have a backup if I ever need it. With 12 TB of external back up capacity, I'm sure I can find a place to stash it away.

As for the permissions, my laptop is a work PC so, while I think I have administrator access, who really knows. My wife's is personal and I KNOW I have administrator rights.

Thanks!!
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