Before I call a customer rep., I wanted to ask the group. My old TIVO was a Series2 DT 80hr. I did the one year contract and closed the account. I would like to get a P4 XL TIVO (with two Minis) and all with lifetime service . Is there anyway, I could get a MSD discount or a cheaper price? I noticed the TIVO Stream Bundle works with the regular P4 (minus the Stream and MOCA) but I wanted to try and get the XL. I was hoping TIVO was going to give new customers a Bundle package with the Minis but I guess not.