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Old 05-06-2013, 01:48 PM   #181
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Would be nice. One of the main reasons I bought a Roku was for Amazon prime streaming, as well as a more operable netflix app (I have a TiVoHD, but just ordered a premiere which I assume has a better nextflix app.)
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Old 11-15-2013, 03:23 PM   #182
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I contacted Amazon and got the following response:

"I'm sorry to hear that you had an unsatisfactory experience with the unavailability of Prime videos on TiVo Devices.

But our development team is working to bring prime videos to different devices like TiVo as we make future improvements to our prime video service.

This is something which we don't want you to experience as our customer as we are working hard to provide our customers with the best digital experience and in spite of all our efforts there are some cases like yours where in we don't have a satisfactory resolution for you as we don't have that particular feature available and we really regret for that.

However, I’ve taken this as a feedback and forwarded your request to our development team for consideration and make this feature available as soon as possible.

Customer feedback like yours is very important in helping us continue to improve the experience of using our prime video service. We will make every effort to evaluate the information you have provided, and try our level best to lead it to program changes or enhancements

I don't assure you that this will be brought into effect immediately but I assure you that every feedback will be considered, hope we've a good news for you very soon.

Because Amazon team is working for all the possible alternatives that can be made available to our customers so as to provide all the features and there is a development team which works on all these feedback's.

Please understand our limitations on this matter because we would've really liked to have this feature only there was another way however as I hope you'd understand, we need to go through certain protocols to make prime videos available for all devices but we are working on these feedback's.

If you need more help, Amazon video specialists can be reached 24 hours a day, seven days a week using the following link:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/conta...tal-video.html

I hope you understand our limitation and we look forward to seeing you again soon."
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Old 11-17-2013, 10:00 AM   #183
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OMG people, how hard is it to hit the input switch button on your AVR or video processor to get Amazon Prime from Roku/BD/whatever else has it? Even for renting, I use Roku, it just works so much better...
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Good for you. I'm glad this limitation satisfies you.
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Good for you. I'm glad this limitation satisfies you.
It shouldn't affect anyone. Just switch inputs and go. The TiVo's streaming apps are atrocious anyways. It's a great DVR, and not much more.
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Old 11-17-2013, 12:48 PM   #186
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It shouldn't affect anyone. Just switch inputs and go. The TiVo's streaming apps are atrocious anyways. It's a great DVR, and not much more.
Well, it does.

What if you don't have a Roku? What if your setup doesn't make switching easy?

Regardless, it's easier if it's all capable on one device. With the Roamio, I use it for Netflix and Hulu and it works great. It's more trouble to switch to the Roku than stay in the same interface, so I'd like to have that for Amazon as well. Why is that so unreasonable? It's technically feasible, and it would be convenient, and I want it.

And believe me, for the completely non-techie members of the family, they have no patience for device switching. One device to do it all is a big deal for people like that.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:50 PM   #187
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OMG people, how hard is it to hit the input switch button on your AVR or video processor to get Amazon Prime from Roku/BD/whatever else has it? Even for renting, I use Roku, it just works so much better...
Roku3 for me with a Harmony 700/650 depending which location. All transparent after programing Harmony. In my office I only have 2 HDMI inputs (DVD player also), put in a remote transfer switch, and as said before, all transparent after programing. No need to wait for If/When/Crappy Interface from Tivo.
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Old 11-17-2013, 03:48 PM   #188
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Well, it does.

What if you don't have a Roku? What if your setup doesn't make switching easy?

Regardless, it's easier if it's all capable on one device. With the Roamio, I use it for Netflix and Hulu and it works great. It's more trouble to switch to the Roku than stay in the same interface, so I'd like to have that for Amazon as well. Why is that so unreasonable? It's technically feasible, and it would be convenient, and I want it.

And believe me, for the completely non-techie members of the family, they have no patience for device switching. One device to do it all is a big deal for people like that.
It's not rocket science to switch devices. I have a setup with a DVDO EDGE that's fed from something like 9 different components, some through another HDMI switch, and some through a composite converter that's behind that, the DVDO EDGE sends audio to the AVR, and video to the TV, and it's not difficult to use three or four remotes to get set up on what you want, with the correct settings as well (particularly how the AVR is processing the surround, i.e. direct for ESPN, and TV logic for many others, all channel stereo for the Wii). Once you learn the remotes, you can basically mash through all the buttons before the TV is even fully on and HDMI locked.

The Roku just does streaming so much better than the TiVo. It's made for streaming, so use it for that, and let the TiVo do DVRing, which is what it's good at. There's nothing wrong with a half dozen components and a few hundred feet of cabling to get a system that does everything well.
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There's nothing wrong with a half dozen components and a few hundred feet of cabling to get a system that does everything well.
Something about this sentence makes me think sarcasm. It's sad to know you are being serious.
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It shouldn't affect anyone. Just switch inputs and go. The TiVo's streaming apps are atrocious anyways. It's a great DVR, and not much more.
It affects me. I don't have any other device that is Amazon Prime capable and I don't want to have to buy one. There is a limit to how many devices I can plug into the one outlet where my TV is. I'm also running out of HDMI ports on my TV. I would also have to get another Ethernet switch because I'm all out of ports. It might not be a big deal to you, but it is to me and apparently a lot of other people on this forum.
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Something about this sentence makes me think sarcasm. It's sad to know you are being serious.
It shouldn't be. I have the right gear for various tasks. My current components are:

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It affects me. I don't have any other device that is Amazon Prime capable and I don't want to have to buy one. There is a limit to how many devices I can plug into the one outlet where my TV is. I'm also running out of HDMI ports on my TV. I would also have to get another Ethernet switch because I'm all out of ports. It might not be a big deal to you, but it is to me and apparently a lot of other people on this forum.
Get the right tools for the job. TiVo isn't it. You do realize there are such things as power strips right, ethernet switches and HDMI switches, right? I currently have two Ethernet switches, 2 or 3 power strips running off a surge protector, and a DVDO EDGE, HDMI switch, and composite switch.
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If TiVo gets Amazon Prime streaming, then it WILL be the right tool for the job, and I'll happily use it. And my TV setup will be blissfully simple and consisting of very few components. I have a very clean looking installation, and I intend to keep it that way.
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If TiVo gets Amazon Prime streaming, then it WILL be the right tool for the job, and I'll happily use it. And my TV setup will be blissfully simple and consisting of very few components. I have a very clean looking installation, and I intend to keep it that way.
Just because I have several hundred feet of wiring in my HT setup doesn't mean that it looks like a slob put it together. The wiring is well hidden from the user.

TiVo is still terrible with streaming video, even if it gets support for Amazon Prime.
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I made no comment about your installation. I'm glad you enjoy your setup. I hope to have a setup I can enjoy as much at some point. If I get Prime on TiVo, I certainly will.
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Inputs for HDMI laptop and 1/8" minijack

The whole thing is documented on a schematic I made in excel and printed on 11x17 paper so my roommates can figure it out (it also made it a lot easier to build).
That's what I was getting at. You have a lot of boxes, some which are for a dedicated purpose (Blu-ray player, Xbox, Wii).

Thinking about streaming services alone, how many of those boxes could you get rid of (excluding the Tivo) and still get all the streaming services you use (If you had to consolidate)?
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That's what I was getting at. You have a lot of boxes, some which are for a dedicated purpose (Blu-ray player, Xbox, Wii).

Thinking about streaming services alone, how many of those boxes could you get rid of (excluding the Tivo) and still get all the streaming services you use (If you had to consolidate)?
None of them are fully overlapping. I might be able to get Amazon Prime on the TV, not sure, I've never really used it, but there are other apps on Roku that aren't on the TV. The Apple TV lives in it's own world, as does pretty much everything else. That's why I have all those devices. So that I can have whatever content I want. I'd say that aside from my roommate's GTA binges, 90%+ of the usage is TiVo, but I still have the other options available when I want them.
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Old 12-10-2013, 04:42 PM   #197
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OMG people, how hard is it to hit the input switch button on your AVR or video processor to get Amazon Prime from Roku/BD/whatever else has it? Even for renting, I use Roku, it just works so much better...
What makes you assume that everyone HAS a Roku or BD player that is Prime Video compatible? Believe it or not, we would all be smart enough to use your brilliant suggestion if we had a roomful of gear. Not everyone does. I DON'T have a Roku, I don't have a gaming system, (or want either one) and I have a perfectly good BD player that doesn't support Prime Video. I'm out of HDMI ports on my AVR and don't see any reason to replace THAT, either. Right now I have NO source that works with Prime, hence my interest in TiVo and I'd rather not add another box to my system just to get it. (I'd be perfectly happy if Samsung provided a firmware update to my BD player that added the service, but so far no luck on that front.)

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I just about fell for Amazon's big interstitial ad push on Prime while checking out. Until I did the due-diligence & stumbled on this & other threads.

I don't need to buy more devices to serve up niche content. I also don't want to compromise on marginally-suitable platforms, or to watch television in a tiny formfactor on my lap. I need more services that utilize my perfectly-suitable _existing_ hardware. Especially when you consider devices that cost for hardware and suck-up additional fees for on-going access.

Hard line: No sale on Prime until they support Tivo for Prime streaming. The fact they do it with Amazon Instant Video on Tivo just underscores it's a choice Amazon is making and not a technological hurdle...

I sent them another in what I'm sure is a pretty continuous stream of Tivo support requests.
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It shouldn't be. I have the right gear for various tasks. My current components are:

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Inputs for HDMI laptop and 1/8" minijack

The whole thing is documented on a schematic I made in excel and printed on 11x17 paper so my roommates can figure it out (it also made it a lot easier to build).



Get the right tools for the job. TiVo isn't it. You do realize there are such things as power strips right, ethernet switches and HDMI switches, right? I currently have two Ethernet switches, 2 or 3 power strips running off a surge protector, and a DVDO EDGE, HDMI switch, and composite switch.
LOL! The whole thing is documented on a schematic I made in excel and printed on 11x17 paper so my roommates can figure it out (it also made it a lot easier to build).

You have the tools all right. But I still can't figure out if you're joking, being sarcastic, or truly oblivious to the fact that not everybody is willing to spend the money, or even a desire to have that many "tools" to manage. It be nice to have an Amazon Prime app on the tivo. Now, do people want it bad enough to spend $100+ on the Roku and cabling? Do you really think this is only about "switching inputs?"
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It shouldn't be. I have the right gear for various tasks. My current components are:

60" Sharp 3D LED-LCD
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Bluetooth adapter

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But there's another rub-- DVDO's Edge has automatic user-configurable prioritized input switching, which is fantastic. We use it with our Tivo, Bluray, and Nintendo Wii. The problem with a Roku box is that it never shuts off it's HDMI output, and nor does a Tivo. So the auto switching feature is junk. I have a complicated setup in my house as well (not as much as yours) and the auto-switching makes it SO easy, as well as the auto-audio routing (if AVR is on, use surround sound; if AVR is off, use TV speakers) ... Makes it *SOOO* easy for the entire family to use a complicated setup.

I would love for the Tivo to support streaming. Alternatively I would be willing to get a Roku --- if it had a standby mode.

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But there's another rub-- DVDO's Edge has automatic user-configurable prioritized input switching, which is fantastic. We use it with our Tivo, Bluray, and Nintendo Wii. The problem with a Roku box is that it never shuts off it's HDMI output, and nor does a Tivo. So the auto switching feature is junk. I have a complicated setup in my house as well (not as much as yours) and the auto-switching makes it SO easy, as well as the auto-audio routing (if AVR is on, use surround sound; if AVR is off, use TV speakers) ... Makes it *SOOO* easy for the entire family to use a complicated setup.

I would love for the Tivo to support streaming. Alternatively I would be willing to get a Roku --- if it had a standby mode.

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Put both devices that are always active on a two port HDMI switch. Then run the output of that to the EDGE and give it the lowest priority. Then just use the remote for the HDMI switch to switch between the Roku and the TiVo.
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I'm out of HDMI ports on my AVR and don't see any reason to replace THAT, either.
You have heard of an HDMI switch, right? None of them have enough ports. I have a 5-port switch on one of the ports on my DVDO EDGE to handle the less-used stuff. One of the 5 ports on that goes to a converter to feed composite sources in, which subsequently goes to a 4-port switch to support GCN, N64, and a VCR.

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LOL! The whole thing is documented on a schematic I made in excel and printed on 11x17 paper so my roommates can figure it out (it also made it a lot easier to build).

You have the tools all right. But I still can't figure out if you're joking, being sarcastic, or truly oblivious to the fact that not everybody is willing to spend the money, or even a desire to have that many "tools" to manage. It be nice to have an Amazon Prime app on the tivo. Now, do people want it bad enough to spend $100+ on the Roku and cabling? Do you really think this is only about "switching inputs?"
I'm not at all sarcastic. I really do have the schematic. Properly documenting it was the only way for my roommates to be able to use the system too (or myself, I can't remember what's hooked up to what).

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But there's another rub-- DVDO's Edge has automatic user-configurable prioritized input switching, which is fantastic. We use it with our Tivo, Bluray, and Nintendo Wii. The problem with a Roku box is that it never shuts off it's HDMI output, and nor does a Tivo. So the auto switching feature is junk. I have a complicated setup in my house as well (not as much as yours) and the auto-switching makes it SO easy, as well as the auto-audio routing (if AVR is on, use surround sound; if AVR is off, use TV speakers) ...
A lot of stuff works like that. I have an HTPC and a video converter that are always on as well, so auto-switching would be useless.

I have mine locked to go to the AVR only, as TV speakers are garbage. All audio should be routed through the AVR.
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I just signed up for the 30 day free trial of prime. I plan to go cancel it now and go with hulu plus. I am pretty much done watching everything I wanted to on Netflix and wanted something with different content on it. I won't get a service that does not work on my tivo.
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Question Amazon Instant Video for Amazon Prime person:

I want to watch the TV series "Falling Skies". When I looked it up on the Internet I discovered it is available from both ITunes and Amazon Prime. There are about 30 episodes and I am an Amazon Prime customer so I thought I would get it for free. Ooops, when I look it up on my Roamio I find that it is $2.99 per episode from "Amazon instant video." Now that I think of it I have never gotten an Amazon video on my Roamio for free. The other items I have gotten from amazon were also for fee. So I go to my laptop, login to amazon and find that I can get all the episodes with my Amazon Prime account for free (no additional charge). My laptop has poor resolution and bad sound so this is not a viable option for me. I have a big TV with good sound connected to a Roamio so I should be able to figure this out.

What am I missing? Something is not letting me order Amazon videos for free on the Roamio. Is it possible to get free (no additional charge) videos on my Roamio using the built in amazon instant video software?
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What am I missing? Something is not letting me order Amazon videos for free on the Roamio. Is it possible to get free (no additional charge) videos on my Roamio using the built in amazon instant video software?
That's the topic of this thread... The fact that Prime video is not accessible from the TiVo. It's crazy, but true.
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I want to watch the TV series "Falling Skies". When I looked it up on the Internet I discovered it is available from both ITunes and Amazon Prime. There are about 30 episodes and I am an Amazon Prime customer so I thought I would get it for free. Ooops, when I look it up on my Roamio I find that it is $2.99 per episode from "Amazon instant video." Now that I think of it I have never gotten an Amazon video on my Roamio for free. The other items I have gotten from amazon were also for fee. So I go to my laptop, login to amazon and find that I can get all the episodes with my Amazon Prime account for free (no additional charge). My laptop has poor resolution and bad sound so this is not a viable option for me. I have a big TV with good sound connected to a Roamio so I should be able to figure this out.

What am I missing? Something is not letting me order Amazon videos for free on the Roamio. Is it possible to get free (no additional charge) videos on my Roamio using the built in amazon instant video software?
Which Roku do you have? I think it may be only the relatively new Roku 3 that adds Amazon Prime Videos?

Amazon Prime Video and Amazon Instant Video are two completely separate things. Amazon Instant Video is downloaded and paid per download; Amazon Prime Video is streaming (not download) and only with Amazon Prime subscription. However, often the same titles are available at both Amazon Prime Video (for streaming free to subscribers) and Amazon Instant Video (for download on a paid basis).
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Which Roku do you have? I think it may be only the relatively new Roku 3 that adds Amazon Prime Videos?
The previous generation Roku 2 HD/XD/XS has Amazon Prime Instant
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It boggles my mind that they can't get Amazon Prime going with AT LEAST the Roamio line of DVRs.
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It boggles my mind that they can't get Amazon Prime going with AT LEAST the Roamio line of DVRs.
Oh, they can. That's not the problem, I'll bet.
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