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Old 01-18-2013, 07:52 AM   #1
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i watched this relatively closely and didnt see the reason why he changed his plans and instead shot himself. obviously having the gun handy was either a backup plan or THE plan from the start

was daddy getting on AF1 supposed to mean he was the mastermind?

i want one of those briefcases that scramble my signal !
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:10 PM   #2
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i watched this relatively closely and didnt see the reason why he changed his plans and instead shot himself. obviously having the gun handy was either a backup plan or THE plan from the start

was daddy getting on AF1 supposed to mean he was the mastermind?

i want one of those briefcases that scramble my signal !
I assume the man that came up and whispered something to him was the cause. I can imagine him saying something like "the jig is up, if you don't admit it, we will do something to your family, friends, etc."
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:47 PM   #3
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Old 01-18-2013, 03:44 PM   #4
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One thing that bugs me is that there apparently is only one copy of memory card with the Pakistan video. Logically they should have made multiple copies, one for at least every member of the conspiracy. Then each member could have made copies, and scattered all over the place, some with directions "If I disappear or go to jail, send a copy to the major networks."

Of course this same problem is in lots of fiction, including "Star Wars." Princess Leia should have given R2D2 a copy hid a copy on the ship for Vader to handle. Also whoever gave Leia a copy should have kept a copy and when she was captured start sending a copy by a different route.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:50 PM   #5
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One thing that bugs me is that there apparently is only one copy of memory card with the Pakistan video. Logically they should have made multiple copies, one for at least every member of the conspiracy. Then each member could have made copies, and scattered all over the place, some with directions "If I disappear or go to jail, send a copy to the major networks."

Of course this same problem is in lots of fiction, including "Star Wars." Princess Leia should have given R2D2 a copy hid a copy on the ship for Vader to handle. Also whoever gave Leia a copy should have kept a copy and when she was captured start sending a copy by a different route.
But then you run afoul of all the DRM associated with the data. You know you're not allowed to make more than one copy for personal use.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:00 PM   #6
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But then you run afoul of all the DRM associated with the data. You know you're not allowed to make more than one copy for personal use.
Oh, right, like Leia's gonna bother reading the EULA.
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Oh, right, like Leia's gonna bother reading the EULA.
I feel very strongly that she would ignre the FBI warning at the start of the death star plans file.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:53 AM   #8
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I have no idea how they are going to wrap this whole thing up in 1 more episode, but I think the entire thing has gone off the rails since they announced the cancellation.

I will stick it out since I have come this far, but unless something really cool happens next week, this has been a waste of time...
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I have no idea how they are going to wrap this whole thing up in 1 more episode, but I think the entire thing has gone off the rails since they announced the cancellation.

I will stick it out since I have come this far, but unless something really cool happens next week, this has been a waste of time...
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:59 AM   #10
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I have no idea how they are going to wrap this whole thing up in 1 more episode, but I think the entire thing has gone off the rails since they announced the cancellation.

I will stick it out since I have come this far, but unless something really cool happens next week, this has been a waste of time...
Triple this. It's just a giant mess. I should have checked out weeks ago, but thought they would have a cool wrapup to the series. But unless it's the slickest piece of writing ever, there's no way it can save this morass.


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Once Chaplin realized the coup was out-maneuvered and he was once again left holding his sub in his hand, that's what I yelled out. Just warm up the nukes and take out DC.

Doubt they have the budget for that...

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Old 01-20-2013, 02:30 PM   #11
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I have no idea how they are going to wrap this whole thing up in 1 more episode, but I think the entire thing has gone off the rails since they announced the cancellation.

I will stick it out since I have come this far, but unless something really cool happens next week, this has been a waste of time...
Agree 100%. The only thing I can think of is this episode was filmed before the cancellation, and next week there will be a dramatic reversal and the coup will succeed. Anything else and this will have been a total waste.

It is bothersome to me that at the end ABC said next week is the SEASON finale, not series finale. So probably there is a cliffhanger and there will never be a resolution. We'll see.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:36 PM   #12
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I was bummed out that we didn't see a Coup d'état

I really thought it was gonna go down. Now I don't have a clue as to what they do next.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:41 PM   #13
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Only thing I can think is they make the video public, Pres resigns/suicides, sub goes home.
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Old 01-21-2013, 10:14 AM   #14
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Agree 100%. The only thing I can think of is this episode was filmed before the cancellation, and next week there will be a dramatic reversal and the coup will succeed. Anything else and this will have been a total waste.

It is bothersome to me that at the end ABC said next week is the SEASON finale, not series finale. So probably there is a cliffhanger and there will never be a resolution. We'll see.
I noticed that too. Are the producers going to try and sell this to another network?
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I was bummed out that we didn't see a Coup d'état

I really thought it was gonna go down. Now I don't have a clue as to what they do next.
Which is why I don't think they are going to tie this up. If the series was going to have a second season, not having the coup makes sense. But now what? How do they end this without the coup?
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If they screw us and don't give us the ending they promised, I am gonna be PISSED!
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If they screw us and don't give us the ending they promised, I am gonna be PISSED!
I don't care enough about this show anymore to be pissed either way. After the first 3 episodes I actually thought it was the best new series of the season. Now? I couldn't care less that it's being cancelled, just want to see how it ends.
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I have watched other shows that ended in a cliff hanger and then were not renewed. Alphas comes to mind. But I don't really care. It is just a TV show.
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Which is why I don't think they are going to tie this up. If the series was going to have a second season, not having the coup makes sense. But now what? How do they end this without the coup?
While I wish they had gone ahead with the coup, I will be happy if the little gangster is dead by the end of the series.
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I don't care enough about this show anymore to be pissed either way. After the first 3 episodes I actually thought it was the best new series of the season. Now? I couldn't care less that it's being cancelled, just want to see how it ends.
I will be pissed only because they PROMISED us a gangbuster ending when they learned the show was cancelled.

I never would have stayed with it from that point without the promise.

So they had better deliver...
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Which is why I don't think they are going to tie this up. If the series was going to have a second season, not having the coup makes sense. But now what? How do they end this without the coup?
When the series was cancelled, my understanding was that there were more episodes to shoot (more than 1) and that they were going to wrap it up.
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When the series was cancelled, my understanding was that there were more episodes to shoot (more than 1) and that they were going to wrap it up.
The shows creators PROMISED that this would happen.
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Only thing I can think is they make the video public, Pres resigns/suicides, sub goes home.
As I watched the coup being planned, without us ever seeing directly that the president was behind the original conspiracy, I kept feeling like the people we were seeing were the real bad guys.

They organize the impeachment, but that doesn't go as well or as quickly as planned, so they do the whole Pakistan thing. The planted nuke wasn't to fool the world, but the president. He does order the strike and the sub disobeys, ticking him off. Knowing that the secret plot to implicate Pakistan isn't so secret anymore, the coup planners instead try to make it look like the president is behind the setup.

If/when the president sees the video ( no one has tried to show him because they think he already knows ) he realizes he's been duped and pardons all the sub's crew.
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24 used the 4 quarter method where each 6 episodes there was a new bad guy and threat. I suspect they would have went that way as well.
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As I watched the coup being planned, without us ever seeing directly that the president was behind the original conspiracy, I kept feeling like the people we were seeing were the real bad guys.

They organize the impeachment, but that doesn't go as well or as quickly as planned, so they do the whole Pakistan thing. The planted nuke wasn't to fool the world, but the president. He does order the strike and the sub disobeys, ticking him off. Knowing that the secret plot to implicate Pakistan isn't so secret anymore, the coup planners instead try to make it look like the president is behind the setup.

If/when the president sees the video ( no one has tried to show him because they think he already knows ) he realizes he's been duped and pardons all the sub's crew.
Hmmm, interesting idea. Could be. At least we could get a wrap.
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I was bummed out that we didn't see a Coup d'état

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I will be pissed only because they PROMISED us a gangbuster ending when they learned the show was cancelled.

I never would have stayed with it from that point without the promise.

So they had better deliver...
did you save you receipt for a refund?

it will be just like stargate, the end of the world buildup then at minute 55 right out of commercial the asgard will come in and wrap it up
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....Once Chaplin realized the coup was out-maneuvered and he was once again left holding his sub in his hand....
I laffed at this.
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