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Old 06-25-2013, 09:34 PM   #31
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Under normal circumstances, Tivos do not update every three days, they update daily - 7 days /week and it's been that way since 1998. That updated data is made available by Tivo everyday at 1pm EDT. If a Tivo connects before that time, it will only have the most up to date data. Service connections are not made every 24 to 28 hours. There can be as little as 4 hours between connections or as much as about 40 hours. Just this past weekend my Premiere made three "daily" connections in about 18 hours.
This is what it seems to be different nowadays (or possibly different on Premiere vs previous Tivos?).

I'm only comparing this to what I see in last successful connection/next connection time in the Network settings page. Why does it sometimes do another connection within a few hours?
(It didn't seem to do this on my S1s, S3, nor TivoHD.) Again, I don't have a zillion data points for any of them, but I check it enough that I think I would have noticed it.


BTW, I haven't read this whole thread, but I wonder if part of the disconnect was what I have long called the two halves of the Tivo's brain not communicating properly. I VERY often see the To Do list and (View Upcoming or manual guide data listings) showing different results. This can be last minute changes, or "episode info filling in" (changing from generic show info to specific info), or sometimes just seems to be big changes (e.g. MTV seems to do this, and the rare times I record on MTV nowadays, it's often manually going through the next ~2 weeks of guide data and recording various marathons.. every couple of months I do that that is).

So you can have something set to record (as a double-check, not a single check), do a view upcoming, and it is NOT THERE. But the Tivo will still think it recorded that show. I don't quite get why the Tivo doesn't check, right before it starts to record, if the show really still exists before it records it.

This can *also* end up with your recordings having the generic guide data, even if you cancelled that one and set another recording, it would have the full data.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:24 AM   #32
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You might be right. I been trying to get instant email notifications for this site and I never receive anything. I guess the NSA forgot to forward them to me.
I haven't been able to get email notifications since Feb 2011, and they're not in the junk mail folder either. I just assumed that AT&T (Yahoo) blocked this site for some reason.

On a different note, one thing I like about WMC is the ability to schedule the guide updates. You can also force them via command line, so I used Task Scheduler to create a job that syncs the clock in the PC and updates the guide data at 4:00am & 4:00pm.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:35 AM   #33
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Something else that should be considered is Tribune Company, the owners of Tribune Media Services, has recently exited bankruptcy and is currently in the hands of its creditors. It is possible that there are changes being made to the divisions of Tribune, like staff being layed off, and maybe this is the new normal for guide data.
I noticed that TMS website is completely different and the list of customers they served fell by about half. I noticed Microsoft is no longer listed so I wonder what that may spell for WMC users.
http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/
http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/...ment-data-apis
http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/tivo
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:27 AM   #34
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It has been wonky the past week, but I hasten to add that this is VERY unusual...in fact, it's unusual to miss a day's data, ever.
It's not THAT unusual. This happens every once and awhile and TCF-ers start jumping off bridges....
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:45 AM   #35
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Missing a day is unusual. Missing several days is VERY unusual.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:56 AM   #36
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Once I found out neither of my Tivos was malfunctioning I did not care. I thought my modem had gone bad
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:32 AM   #37
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Just wondering if anyone still has the original (thread topic) problem?
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:43 PM   #38
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My guide data is good out 13 days....

....and, Rob, I disagree



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Old 06-28-2013, 02:08 PM   #39
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....and, Rob, I disagree
No, you don't.
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Old 06-28-2013, 03:35 PM   #40
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I had my normal randomly scheduled network update at 16:01 EDT. I just checked and my guide data is now 24 hours longer. I give up.

But it is a Friday.
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:06 AM   #41
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Something else that should be considered is Tribune Company, the owners of Tribune Media Services, has recently exited bankruptcy and is currently in the hands of its creditors. It is possible that there are changes being made to the divisions of Tribune, like staff being layed off, and maybe this is the new normal for guide data.
I noticed that TMS website is completely different and the list of customers they served fell by about half. I noticed Microsoft is no longer listed so I wonder what that may spell for WMC users.
http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/
http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/...ment-data-apis
http://www.tribunemediaservices.com/tivo
Nice info, if only we could see the whole thing without it being truncated
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Old 06-29-2013, 12:07 PM   #42
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Mine goes to 4:30 on July 11th which is 12 full days
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Mine goes to 4:30 on July 11th which is 12 full days
Your 4pm and my 7pm indicate that the TiVo guide's "day" starts at the same time across the country. Probably Hawai'i is 1pm or 2pm. Like TVGOS, the start time of the program is the cutoff, not the variable end times.

Too bad Canada uses our time zones. Anyone from Alaska care to comment since it is 1 hour before Hawai'i? Maybe someone from Atlantic TZ in Canada?
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:39 PM   #44
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Well I got a guide data update on Friday which brought the data to 8 PM Thursday July 11th. I received another guide data update today but I only have data up 8 PM Friday July 12th. So instead of being one day behind after the guide update now I am two days behind.
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Old 06-30-2013, 02:52 PM   #45
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Well I got a guide data update on Friday which brought the data to 8 PM Thursday July 11th. I received another guide data update today but I only have data up 8 PM Friday July 12th. So instead of being one day behind after the guide update now I am two days behind.


This thread is hilarious....
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Old 06-30-2013, 08:08 PM   #46
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Well I got a guide data update on Friday which brought the data to 8 PM Thursday July 11th. I received another guide data update today but I only have data up 8 PM Friday July 12th. So instead of being one day behind after the guide update now I am two days behind.
Umm what? My TiVo updated at 6:30am this morning and has guide data to about 7:30pm on July 12th so 12 full days ahead which is what it should be.

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This thread is hilarious....
And a lesson in what constitutes OCD, apparently.
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And a lesson in what constitutes OCD, apparently.
I prefer "CDO," actually. "OCD" drives me crazy, with all those out-of-order letters...
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I prefer "CDO," actually. "OCD" drives me crazy, with all those out-of-order letters...
I prefer COD so it passes a spell checker and speling mistakes drive me crazy.
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I prefer COD so it passes a spell checker and speling mistakes drive me crazy.
This post explains a lot...
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LOL. worries about a possible modem malfunction added to this now amusing thread. As a nerd, I found the time zone differences interesting.
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