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07-20-2012, 10:42 PM
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Can I Ip control an unsubscribed Tivo?
I have a Tivo Series 3 that I control over IP, on my home wifi network, and it works great.
I am thinking of buying a used Tivo (HD or Series 3) for my bedroom, to use as a tuner (with a CableCard, without a Tivo subscription) for my bedroom TV - much less expensive than renting a set top box from RCN.
Does anyone know if I can connect an unsubscribed Tivo to my wifi network, and control it over IP?
Thanks.
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07-20-2012, 11:06 PM
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Never gonna happen.
Without a subscription the HD Tivo is just an oversized doorstop.
TC
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07-21-2012, 01:11 AM
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what ru lookin at?
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You can use an unsubscribed Tivo as a tuner only. It will be like using a dumb cable box. You will only be able to control it with the remote control. No guide data. You can only change channels using the up/down arrow key or by directly entering the channel number from the numeric keypad.
If you are going to do this, I recommend getting a Series 3/Tivo HD. At least that way, you will still have a 30 minute live TV buffer on both tuners.
The Premiere line has the live TV buffers disabled on boxes with no subscription.
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Last edited by steve614 : 07-21-2012 at 01:27 AM.
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07-21-2012, 08:47 AM
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You will get pop up screens nagging you about not having Tivo service.
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07-21-2012, 11:50 AM
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I don't think we actually know the answer to this.
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07-21-2012, 05:42 PM
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Just the facts ma'am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcbrine
I don't think we actually know the answer to this.
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Yes we do.
The key to doing anything with a tivo remotely is the MAK. An unsub'd Tivo has no MAK. No MAK means you can't do a damn thing with it remotely.
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07-21-2012, 09:20 PM
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No, the MAK is not required for the IP-based remote control service. (I refer here to the old, "Crestron" interface, not the new, "iPad" interface. But that's the only one that works on a Series 3 anyway.) In fact there is no authentication at all for the remote control service. It just has to be enabled in the menus.
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07-22-2012, 01:54 AM
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Bibity bobity boo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve614
The Premiere line has the live TV buffers disabled on boxes with no subscription.
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If you get a Premiere with old enough software you can still have the live TV buffers and manual recording, but it is a pain to work with. The time will be off too.
If you can put up with a standard definition box and what to go the cheapest with basic features, go with a Pioneer or Toshiba DVD/DVR for about $40 on ebay that has basic Tivo for free. It only has 3 days of TV guide and no internet features other than guide download, but much better than working with unsubscribed TiVo.
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07-22-2012, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smalis
I have a Tivo Series 3 that I control over IP, on my home wifi network, and it works great.
I am thinking of buying a used Tivo (HD or Series 3) for my bedroom, to use as a tuner (with a CableCard, without a Tivo subscription) for my bedroom TV - much less expensive than renting a set top box from RCN.
Does anyone know if I can connect an unsubscribed Tivo to my wifi network, and control it over IP?
Thanks.
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How long have you had your current unit?
Lifetimed or monthly payments?
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