Tivo HD Upgrade Instructions - using JMFS

[unitron]

Originally Posted by lpwcomp

Yeah, non-PC is a kind description of a lot (most?) of his material, but how could you forget this one:

"Man cannot live by bread alone. He must have peanut butter."

He was a fond memory of my childhood of <redacted> years ago (we had several of his albums) and around 2004 or so I bought some of the CDs.

For more urbane comedic entertainment, we also had several "Shelley Berman" albums.

How could I have forgotten that one, indeed.

I must plead a splitting sinus headache and advancing years.

Although something would have probably triggered my memory of that line somewhere down the road a few weeks or months from now.

[unixguy]

I just upgraded my TiVo Premier:

(1) Hard drive used: 2TB WD20EURS
(2) Thermaltake BlacX Dock.

I have a Sony Vaio with an 1 eSata port (that also takes USB)

Initially I tried to use USB but when I booted into the JMFS I was unable to see the drives. Instead I connected a USB hub to my eSata port. After that I was able to see both drives without any issues.

The total time for the upgrade was about 5.5 hours with no errors.

The only issue I had was using WDIDLE I was not able to see the updated tivo drive. But my drive was not Jan 2013 .. from my understanding this was just an issue for drives prior to Jan 2013.

After the upgrade the tivo works fine without any issues. First time bootup seemed to hang sightly but continued to the tivo menu. Also the first time I went to the menu it was a little slow .. it seems that was just the first time.

After a few minutes of usage response time seems ok and the menu does not hang.

[lpwcomp]

Originally Posted by unixguy

The only issue I had was using WDIDLE I was not able to see the updated tivo drive.

That's because it modifies the drives firmware so must be connected via SATA. Won't work over USB.

Originally Posted by unixguy

But my drive was not Jan 2013 .. from my understanding this was just an issue for drives prior to Jan 2013.

Have you verified that the TiVo will soft boot with no problems?

[unixguy]

Originally Posted by lpwcomp

That's because it modifies the drives firmware so must be connected via SATA. Won't work over USB.

Have you verified that the TiVo will soft boot with no problems?

I soft booted successfully the only issue I saw was that right before the TiVo intro cartoon the screen hangs for about 3-5 seconds.

If I need to I can hook the drive up directly via sata connection and run the util.

[unitron]

Intellipark is more of a which model issue than a when was it made issue, I think.

[lessd]

Originally Posted by unixguy

I soft booted successfully the only issue I saw was that right before the TiVo intro cartoon the screen hangs for about 3-5 seconds.

If I need to I can hook the drive up directly via sata connection and run the util.

That common when going into the HDUI for the first time, not any Hard drive problem.

[pdecrett]

I just used JMFS Live (v1.04), per the first post in this thread, to replace a 1TB previously upgraded WinMFS drive in my Tivo HD. The old drive even stopped booting eventually (periodic reboots during shows before that).

The JMFS Live software copied settings and recordings to a new WD20EURS 2TB drive. It booted right up in the Tivo.

I did the disk copy. About 12 hours to copy 1TB of data and try to repair my bad sectors. The bad drive really slowed things down.

I did the expansion (not supersize). JMFS reported something like 288 hours. But in my Tivo, I am getting, 314 or 318 (cannot remember).

That was it. I didn't check acoustics. I didn't check the idle timeout (soft reboots work no problem). My drive was manufactured in January 2013.

Thanks for the help, everyone, particularly to Tivoitis (first post) and comer (software) - at least it seems.

- Paul

[unitron]

Originally Posted by pdecrett

I just used JMFS Live (v1.04), per the first post in this thread, to replace a 1TB previously upgraded WinMFS drive in my Tivo HD. The old drive even stopped booting eventually (periodic reboots during shows before that).

The JMFS Live software copied settings and recordings to a new WD20EURS 2TB drive. It booted right up in the Tivo.

I did the disk copy. About 12 hours to copy 1TB of data and try to repair my bad sectors. The bad drive really slowed things down.

I did the expansion (not supersize). JMFS reported something like 288 hours. But in my Tivo, I am getting, 314 or 318 (cannot remember).

That was it. I didn't check acoustics. I didn't check the idle timeout (soft reboots work no problem). My drive was manufactured in January 2013.

Thanks for the help, everyone, particularly to Tivoitis (first post) and comer (software) - at least it seems.

- Paul

I'm happy for you that it worked out, however future readers might like to know that in your situation, provided the TiVo had already been upgraded to version 11.0k of the software (almost a certainty if you've had it operating lately), one could do the copying and then use WinMFS to just enlarge the previously added 3rd MFS Media partition, even if the stock drive had been upgraded to the 1TB with the MFS Live cd and there was a small Apple Free partition left at the end (which would defeat jmfs).

And that's true for all of the S3's, even the original OLED panel with the clock one.


The tricky thing is what to use to do the copy if the source drive has any problems.

But once you've got a good, working copy on the new target drive, WinMFS can expand into the rest of the space and 11.0k will let the TiVo use all of it, even though that last partition is going to be something like 1.6TB in size if you went with a 2TB target drive.

[tgmii]

Does someone have an Tivo HD image? My Tivo HD suddenly failed, so no backup.

Thanks!

[drhankz]

Originally Posted by tgmii

Does someone have an Tivo HD image? My Tivo HD suddenly failed, so no backup.

Thanks!

OH NO

Answer YES - I have two of them but I have NO CLUE how
you could get them - THEY are LARGE.

People do sell them online

[ggieseke]

Originally Posted by tgmii

Does someone have an Tivo HD image? My Tivo HD suddenly failed, so no backup.

Thanks!

What's the model number?

[unitron]

Originally Posted by tgmii

Does someone have an Tivo HD image? My Tivo HD suddenly failed, so no backup.

Thanks!

First, make sure the problem is the drive and not the power supply or the motherboard.

When you say HD, do you mean a TCD652160?

I can provide an image for that model (and a few others).

[nooneuknow]

Originally Posted by unitron

I'm happy for you that it worked out, however future readers might like to know that in your situation, provided the TiVo had already been upgraded to version 11.0k of the software (almost a certainty if you've had it operating lately), one could do the copying and then use WinMFS to just enlarge the previously added 3rd MFS Media partition, even if the stock drive had been upgraded to the 1TB with the MFS Live cd and there was a small Apple Free partition left at the end (which would defeat jmfs).
And that's true for all of the S3's, even the original OLED panel with the clock one.
The tricky thing is what to use to do the copy if the source drive has any problems.
But once you've got a good, working copy on the new target drive, WinMFS can expand into the rest of the space and 11.0k will let the TiVo use all of it, even though that last partition is going to be something like 1.6TB in size if you went with a 2TB target drive.

It was actually 11.0h that began the support (there was no 11.0i version, to avoid confusion). It got put in because WD was already launching DVR expansion drives that would have not worked without the change. So WD deserves some thanks for pretty much forcing TiVo's hand, by getting those out so quickly. I cannot elaborate further, as I am bound by a NDA that is stricter than the first two rules of Fight Club, and I'd rather get beat up by Tyler Durden, than face the broad scope of penalties the other can inflict.

Oddly enough, DVR_DUDE, ships 2TB drives for the HD & Premiere, that come with the prior-to-current factory-installed images, which are several major release revision numbers old, like version 9.___ for the HD and 14.___ for the Premiere. The Premiere upgrade also maps out like JMFS does, with one huge partition at the end of all the factory ones... I haven't been able to analyze the HD partition structure. The software version matter is explained as being necessary to insure that the user doesn't become unable to receive future upgrades. I don't buy most of what his scare-tactic invoking and myth-perpetuating advertising says. However, he keeps an unbelievably great customer satisfaction rating, which is why I bought one of each drive, out of curiosity, and then decided to keep them as they were, and use GNU dd_rescue, from the command line, to clone them to other new 2TB drives for testing. So far, so good. It's only annoying if you lose all your season passes and programs, the Season Passes can't be retrieved from a simple TiVo service connection, like you can if you don't require a software update first.

I have NOT had good luck (TiVo uptime before a GSOD reboot loop), just tacking one huge partition onto the end of a stock TiVo HD drive with JMFS. This issue has been reported time and time again by others, all over the forums, but it's seldom followed by much, if any, response. My best guess is that it all depends on the parameters of how the unit is used. If you have 100+ Season Passes, and the TiVo is always very busy, and never manually rebooted, it doesn't seem to take long for a TiVo HD to turn from "successfully upgraded" to "stuck in GSOD reboot loop". I had the same issues with every 2TB THD upgrade method before JMFS, as well.