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Old 07-29-2015, 07:05 PM   #601
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OMG.

Going into FJ the scores were:

1. 18,100
2. 10,800
3. 15,200

A good game by everyone.
FJ was a triple stumper, everyone got it wrong.

The bets were as follows:

1. 18,100 = 0
2. 10786 = 14
3. 15,000 = 200

I've never seen first place bet EVERYTHING in FJ before. Why???

Also, I don't remember a winner with only $200.

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Old 07-29-2015, 08:14 PM   #602
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Yeah, just watched that. Only thing I can think of is he felt really confident about the category. Seems like it should be easy for someone who reads alot. I'm not sure if the question was all that tough. Seems like a question about The Thornebirds should be a gimmee. Now, I didn't know what they were referring to, and have no real way to judge. I'm surprised no one got it.

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He only needed to bet 12,301. He would have gotten it wrong and won the game with 5,799.

Third place should have bet nothing. If either 1st or 2nd got it correct, she would have lost anyway. So she bets nothing, have them bet against each other, and hope they get it wrong.

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I was going to post about this, but was too busy beating my head against the wall.

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Only thing I can think of is he felt really confident about the category.
I think he just has NO understanding about how to wager in FJ. None of them today did. None. Of. Them.


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Old 07-29-2015, 11:44 PM   #605
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I guess I'm trying to apply logic where there there was none. Kind of like trying to apply logic to mass murderers and terrorists. It doesn't work. I do get why the bets are horrendous.

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Old 07-30-2015, 12:03 AM   #606
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They used to have people help the contestants with Final Jeopardy wagering. Do they no longer do that?

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Old 07-30-2015, 08:52 AM   #607
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They used to have people help the contestants with Final Jeopardy wagering. Do they no longer do that?
I can't imagine the help is more than anything very basic. Certainly not any Game Theory, even if brain-dead obvious Game Theory.

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Old 07-30-2015, 08:59 AM   #608
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I love how bad bets makes The Final Wager guy drink in his videos.

http://thefinalwager.co/2015/07/29/f...-july-29-2015/

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Old 07-30-2015, 09:58 AM   #609
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Maybe they learned this week not to have a baseball category so near the trade deadline?

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/j...r=112638779551

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Old 07-30-2015, 10:10 AM   #610
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I can't imagine the help is more than anything very basic. Certainly not any Game Theory, even if brain-dead obvious Game Theory.
That is not what I recall their description from when I saw a taping about 15 years ago.

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Old 07-30-2015, 10:52 AM   #611
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Maybe they learned this week not to have a baseball category so near the trade deadline?

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/j...r=112638779551
I only know what I read in a couple of friends' Facebook posts and I saw that one.

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Old 07-30-2015, 11:46 AM   #612
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OMG.

Going into FJ the scores were:

1. 18,100
2. 10,800
3. 15,200

A good game by everyone.
FJ was a triple stumper, everyone got it wrong.

The bets were as follows:

1. 18,100 = 0
2. 10786 = 14
3. 15,000 = 200

I've never seen first place bet EVERYTHING in FJ before. Why???

Also, I don't remember a winner with only $200.
My dad and I were scratching our heads over this last night.

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Old 07-30-2015, 12:37 PM   #613
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They used to have people help the contestants with Final Jeopardy wagering. Do they no longer do that?
No. A piece of paper, a pen, and your own math ability. They write down your wager as soon as you are ready to commit it on the screen.

It is the hardest mental/pen-and-paper math you'll ever do!

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Old 07-30-2015, 07:00 PM   #614
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They used to have people help the contestants with Final Jeopardy wagering. Do they no longer do that?
They never did.

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They never did.
Then what did I witness in (I think) 1998 during the taping?

They paused the taping before Final Jeopardy. They explained that because this was important and they didn't want contestants to make a mistake because of time they pause the show and have people confer with the contestants.

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Old 07-30-2015, 08:24 PM   #616
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I've heard that one of the things they do is tell the contestants that the response starts with "Who is" or "What is" or whatever.

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Old 07-31-2015, 03:42 AM   #617
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and probably tell them things like "spelling counts" and other stuff

for example: the question astrohip referenced on the previous page would have been the perfect time to use an abbreviation if you weren't sure of the spelling

but I guess they must have reminded them during the break that not only does spelling count but abbreviations aren't allowed

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Old 07-31-2015, 09:29 AM   #618
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but I guess they must have reminded them during the break that not only does spelling count but abbreviations aren't allowed
But they did accept an abbreviation of a university name as a correct answer on a recent show.

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But they did accept an abbreviation of a university name as a correct answer on a recent show.
Yep, they accepted BYU when another contestant misspelled it as Bringham Young.
Yesterday they accepted AZ Diamondbacks for Arizona Diamondbacks.

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I've heard that one of the things they do is tell the contestants that the response starts with "Who is" or "What is" or whatever.

They told us the "who" or "what" and had us write that down. Other than that, no help at all. They DO give you essentially unlimited time to get the wager correct, but they did say that they might come and ask, "how are you doing?", which would be code for "please hurry up!"


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They told us the "who" or "what" and had us write that down.
This reminds me of something I've always wondered...

As we all know, the correct response must be in the form of a question, but is there any rule that says the question must make sense syntactically?

For instance, in the category "U.S. Presidents" for a clue that reads "He's the first one", can you respond "why is George Washington?" or "how is George Washington?" or "where is George Washington?" or even "do you know George Washington?" and still get credit for a correct response?

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I thought it was fairly well known that exact spelling doesn't matter, so long as what you write matches the pronunciation of the correct answer. Last month all 3 contestants gave different spellings in Final Jeopardy and all 3 were allowed (F.W. De Klerk / DeClerq / De Clerk). Alex explained this, not for the first time, when disallowing "Bringham" Young, because adding the 'n' changed the pronunciation. Same with the kid and 'emanciptation'.

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This reminds me of something I've always wondered...

As we all know, the correct response must be in the form of a question, but is there any rule that says the question must make sense syntactically?

For instance, in the category "U.S. Presidents" for a clue that reads "He's the first one", can you respond "why is George Washington?" or "how is George Washington?" or "where is George Washington?" or even "do you know George Washington?" and still get credit for a correct response?

The way I remember it being phrased at some point was that it needs to be a valid question, but you probably don't want to get too cute with your response. My sons wanted me to toss in a "when is...", but I wasn't brave enough to try.


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I haven't seen anyone point out that Bring em Young is it is the punchline to a dirty joke about Mormons.

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I haven't seen anyone point out that Bring em Young is it is the punchline to a dirty joke about Mormons.
It's also the "brand" of a series of gonzo porn titles featuring "barely legal" teens.

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This reminds me of something I've always wondered...

As we all know, the correct response must be in the form of a question, but is there any rule that says the question must make sense syntactically?

For instance, in the category "U.S. Presidents" for a clue that reads "He's the first one", can you respond "why is George Washington?" or "how is George Washington?" or "where is George Washington?" or even "do you know George Washington?" and still get credit for a correct response?
I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to begin that way either.

For example, your response could be "George Washington, isn't it?"

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I just googled and found this. I guess in early years they didn't remind them.

D'ohhhhhhhhhh!

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I think I ask some form of this question every year.. but the Jeopardy email came out today..

I knew there were always some summer reruns.. But is it always over a month? Aug 3-Sept11 is all reruns?!?! (Not really a complaint -- I just got under 100 of eps saved up and have been eating in them a couple at a time..)

Also, on one ep in I think March, only one contestant was around for Final Jeopardy.. probably discussed earlier in this thread.

Anyway, I bet most of you would say don't bet anything. But if it's a subject you think you know well, I think betting to leave you with $1 if you were wrong, so you'd still win, would be a reasonable thing to do..

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It's always six weeks off.

Unless it was Opera, I'd bet all but $1. Go big or go home.

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