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Old 12-02-2012, 07:51 PM   #1
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transfer Tivo recordings to Kindle Fire HD

I have a TivoHD and just got a Kindle Fire HD. Is there a way to transfer Tivo files to the Kindle so I can watch items on the Kindle? A google search shows some programs that you have to pay for to use. I do not not mind paying for something that works well. Anyone have any experience with this?

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Old 12-02-2012, 10:26 PM   #2
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TiVo is working on android support for streaming/transferring. Kindle runs on android, right?
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:06 PM   #3
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TiVo is working on android support for streaming/transferring. Kindle runs on android, right?
Yep, a amazon version of android but the problem they have is that they have a tivo hd and not a premiere. So, they have a lot of hurdles to over come.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:33 PM   #4
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I have a TivoHD and just got a Kindle Fire HD. Is there a way to transfer Tivo files to the Kindle so I can watch items on the Kindle? A google search shows some programs that you have to pay for to use. I do not not mind paying for something that works well. Anyone have any experience with this?

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kmttg is free. Use it to transfer shows(unless copy protected) to your PC and convert. You can then load them on the Kindle.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:08 AM   #5
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VideoReDo can edit .tivo files and save them to a format that can be played on a Kindle Fire.

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Old 12-03-2012, 11:57 AM   #6
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Yep, a amazon version of android but the problem they have is that they have a tivo hd and not a premiere. So, they have a lot of hurdles to over come.
Not "a lot". Just two. Kmttg coupled with tivodecode or VRD will fill the bill nicely on the TiVo side. I know nothing specific about transferring from the PC to the Kindle, which is the second hurdle.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:01 PM   #7
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VideoReDo can edit .tivo files and save them to a format that can be played on a Kindle Fire.
I certainly do recommend VRD, but there are a few things the OP should know.

1. VRD does not do the transferring. He needs another utility for that. Kmttg is recommended.

2. VRD is a commercial product that costs money. It does have a 14 daye free trial.

3. If all the OP wants to do is transfer the recordings to the Kindle, unedited, then VRD is not necessary. Tivodecode will do the job of converting to a standard .mpg file on the fly, and it is a free utility.
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If all the OP wants to do is transfer the recordings to the Kindle, unedited, then VRD is not necessary. Tivodecode will do the job of converting to a standard .mpg file on the fly, and it is a free utility.
Does the Kindle play MPEG-2 video? I had one briefly but never tried playing MPEG-2. If it doesn't, and requires H.264 like most devices, then he will need to transcode the video as well. There are free utilities for that as well though.

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:10 PM   #9
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According to the docs, the Kindle Fire HD will play MP4 files.

Thanks for the info above ... I have a lot to read thru.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:24 PM   #10
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That's not the question. The question is, "Will it play MPEG-II (.mpg) files?" If not, you will need an additional step after tivodecode, or else you will need to use VRD instead of tivodecode.
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I really don't think it does. So you'll likely need that extra recode step.

The best part about VideoReDo is that it can open .tivo files directly. So it does the decryption, editing and encoding to MP4 all in one step.

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Old 12-04-2012, 01:13 AM   #12
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My 7" FireHD plays back my programs from my TiVo that I had VideoReDo change from .TiVo to .mpg. But it might be because of an app I have installed. Not sure.
And the playback is not as smooth as it should be but good enough to watch and in HD. But I do get the audio and video. The files I checked have DD 5.1 audio. Well at least that is what shows up when played on the TiVo with the .TiVo extension.

EDIT: Yes I must have some app installed on my 7" FireHD that allows me to play back the Mpeg2 files. I just tried on my 8.9" FireHD and it said that there was no application available for playback when I tried to play the same files.

The files might play better at a lower bitrate. The ones I tried show up as 1920x1080 MPEG2 at a 17Mb/s bitrate. They were recorded from Starz, Torchwood: Miracle Day. So it might play back smoother with a lower bitrate for MPEG2. I'll need to transfer some 720P recordings to that network share and see how they playback over the 7" FireHD.
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That's pretty good that it plays a .mpg file at that resolution and bitrate. Most portable devices like this have dedicated hardware to decode H.264 video, but MPEG-2 decoding has to be done in the CPU and most don't have a powerful enough chip to decode in the CPU in real time. The FireHD must have a pretty good CPU to do that. Although beware that it will most likely cut your battery life significantly compared to playing the files H.264.

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