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Old 11-15-2013, 03:53 PM   #91
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That's Fight scenes 101 (3 guys fight one and 2 wait till the other is knocked down.)
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:37 PM   #92
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That's Fight scenes 101 (3 guys fight one and 2 wait till the other is knocked down.)
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:59 PM   #93
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I like the show, I really do, but I can't help but get snapped out of the fantasy when they have things like two agents are being suroundedby a mob of bad guys with guns. *cut to shot of a c17 HOVERING above them*. Then in stead of running or shooting at it, the bad guys stand there dumbfounded and wait for the plane to stop, rotate around, and then turn on it's jets SUPERPOWER to blow them all away.
It also went from having no extraction plan to we'll just fly the plane there and pick them up. If it was that easy, why not have that be the plan in the first place?
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Old 11-15-2013, 07:31 PM   #94
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Yeah, he's crushing on her and she's (mostly) oblivious.
I think they're not completely decided on this relationship yet. It seemed to me an episode or two ago, he was crushing on Skye and she (Simmons) was looking jealous.
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:52 AM   #95
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Yeah, he's crushing on her and she's (mostly) oblivious.
I think he's also given Skye a few salacious glances. He may just be a male.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:00 AM   #96
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It also went from having no extraction plan to we'll just fly the plane there and pick them up. If it was that easy, why not have that be the plan in the first place?
Because it was all a test of Colson's team. He was manipulated. Not told there was no extraction. Pretty much letting the team crack the fact and go save their guys. Much like the Empire let the Millennium Falcon get away in A New Hope.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:56 AM   #97
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Well now knowing that Fitz and Simmons are not related and knowing that all shows on TV have to have sexual tension I think the natural dynamics are:

Skye and Ward
Fitz and Simmons
Coulson and May
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Old 11-18-2013, 12:58 PM   #98
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Skye and Ward
Fitz and Simmons
Coulson and May
They could have a sixsome. Uh, sexsome? Sixsome sexsome?
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Old 11-18-2013, 07:13 PM   #99
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Sky is River, but less talented and mystical.
Ward is Jayne, but WAY less funny.
Melinda May is Zoë.
Coulson is Mal.
Fitz is sort-of Simon.
Simmons is Hermione Granger.

I seem to recall reading (somewhere here) that they had written it pretty by-the-book until they got a full season pickup, after which we should see a signficant amount of character development. We're just starting to see that, and some longer story arcs. I understand why they wouldn't want to risk it right out of the gate, but I do think that meant they lost some ground with the viewers.

That said, we got everyone out to see Thor: The Dark World already because the previews noted that this week's episode crossed over with the movie and we wanted to be able to enjoy it spoiler-free. So they've figured out an easy way to make money off our fandom less than half-a-season in.
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Old 11-19-2013, 09:49 AM   #100
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Sky is River, but less talented and mystical.
Ward is Jayne, but WAY less funny.
Melinda May is Zoë.
Coulson is Mal.
Fitz is sort-of Simon.
Simmons is Hermione Granger.
You could add "but way less funny, cool, awesome, developed" on every one of those. I hope we do see some real character development.
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:13 AM   #101
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You could add "but way less funny, cool, awesome, developed" on every one of those. I hope we do see some real character development.
Probably because Joss is done with TV as a writer or show runner and is now focused on movies and his only interest in TV is as EP.
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Old 01-27-2014, 02:40 PM   #102
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Anyone still watch this show. I just watched "A Magical Place"
It was So So. Good enough for me to continue watching (primarily due to lack of competition in the genre).
Hopefully they will wrap up the 'Why is Coulson alive' storyline in the next episode (which aired 1/14) and move on.
The way they have spread out the episode airings may have lost viewers. Seems like they only have new eps every few weeks.
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:43 PM   #103
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Yep, there was a thread for both "The Magicial Place" here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=513317

and for "Seeds" here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=513571

I still find it quite entertaining.
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Old 01-27-2014, 06:43 PM   #104
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The way they have spread out the episode airings may have lost viewers. Seems like they only have new eps every few weeks.
They lost viewers because it's not a good show. The way it has been aired is no different than the way most other shows are aired during the winter. It's quite common for shows to take weeks off during the December/January months to accommodate for the holidays/sports/award shows. SHIELD's first new airing in January after being off for 4 weeks was actually up 600k viewers. It took it's biggest losses in the first few weeks when it aired consecutively. It premiered to a 4.7 18-49 rating and by week 2 was down to a 3.1. By week six it was down to a 2.5. The last new episode in January was a 2.2.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:15 PM   #105
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I'm still enjoying it too. This is the first show in a long time that is appointment television for my wife and me. We record it and make sure to make time to watch together. It's not supposed to be high on the verisimilitude scale. It's a comic book show. It's fun and occasionally a bit silly. But it's also not any more "unreal" than Alias was. We're enjoying the slow play reveals of the characters. We get to see them unfold with the natural flow of the series, rather than a bunch of forced monologuing about their lives and plans.

That's the luxury of a pretty secure run. - it's likely to stay on the air as long as it can stay out of last place in its time slot. It's a Marvel (owned by Disney) property, produced by ABC Studios (owned by Disney), airing on ABC (owned by Disney) that is being set up to serve as a sort of nexus point for the entire Marvel (owned by Disney) Cinematic and soon-to-be Live Action Television Universe. Joss isn't writing, directing, or line producing, but his role in all of this is as sort of grand poobah puppet master, helping the sprawling narrative weave together.

The Thor "crossover" was just the beginning. I suspect that by the end of this season or the beginning of next, we'll get lead-ins to the four Netflix series that are coming in 2015 (Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage). And those will culminate in a team-up mini-series on Netflix. They'll probably also do call outs to the rest of the MCU movies that seem to be scheduled to come out about every six months or so.

And there's also an Agent Carter series in development that's likely to end up on ABC's slate for next season. I could see it being paired with AoS as a "Marvel Hour." (Though they might want to keep them separated to avoid confusion, because Agent Carter is likely set in the 1940s). Overall, it's a good time to be a comics on the screen fan.
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Old 01-27-2014, 07:29 PM   #106
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I think Marvel is spreading themselves too thin. And they're taking a HUGE chance on these "B" level super-hero shows and movies. Ant-Man? Guardians of the Galaxy? Jessica Jones? Who besides comic book geeks really know about these characters?
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The Arrow is an obscure character, and (for the CW) gets good ratings, AFAIK.
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I think Marvel is spreading themselves too thin. And they're taking a HUGE chance on these "B" level super-hero shows and movies. Ant-Man? Guardians of the Galaxy? Jessica Jones? Who besides comic book geeks really know about these characters?
Who'd have guessed Iron Man would be the success it has been? Iron Man has always been my favorite Marvel character, and while not "B" level, Iron Man was not a character that the general public knew much about.
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Old 01-27-2014, 10:27 PM   #109
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Yeah, for the most part it's not the character, it's what they do with the character that's going to make or break a movie or a TV series. Guardians of the Galaxy, Jessica Jones, Ant-Man...they could all be fantastic, or they could all be terrible.

What's wrong with SHIELD isn't the concept; it's the execution. To me, instead of being a TV version of The Avengers without super-heroes (which is how it was presented, and which could be fantastic), it's a watered-down 21st-century A-Team.
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Old 01-27-2014, 11:04 PM   #110
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The Arrow is an obscure character, and (for the CW) gets good ratings, AFAIK.
That would be because that those who do know are more familiar with him as Green Arrow.


However, Blade got three movies and a series.
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I'm on the fence ready to jump. There's been the odd good episode, but most have been fairly boring. About halfway through most of these I'm on one of my tablets checking email or playing Candy Crush. Once I get to that point on a series, it's usually time to cut the cord. My son loves it, but he's more of a comic book movie geek than I am.
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This show is actually one of the few new shows that I have stuck with this season. I started out recording a bunch of new stuff but whittled them way down after the Holidays.
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I like the show, but agree that if you look too closely, it looks like crap. Many Buffy episodes were the same. But I like the overall concept, the humor and the characters. The individual episode plots are often weak, but they have redeeming points. It's no Firefly, but I'm still watching.
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That would be because that those who do know are more familiar with him as Green Arrow.


However, Blade got three movies and a series.
I knew someone would nitpick that part -- it's obscure as heck as "Green Arrow" too... I speak as a non-comic book person.

Oh, this actually leads me to another question I had. I think the answer to any crossover question is probably "yes" given the long history of comic books... But do the X-Men and the Avengers/these other characters we've seen in movies lately come into contact with each other?
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But do the X-Men and the Avengers/these other characters we've seen in movies lately come into contact with each other?
In comics they do all the time...in fact, the Uncanny Avengers is a team comprised of both Avengers and X-Men.

But of course in the movies they'll never meet.
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In comics they do all the time...in fact, the Uncanny Avengers is a team comprised of both Avengers and X-Men.

But of course in the movies they'll never meet.
I hear rumors of there having been some verrrrrrrrrrrrrry preliminary talks about a "grand crossover movie" that could include characters controlled by Marvel, Sony, 20th Century Fox, and possibly even Warner Brothers too. It will never happen - they'll never get a deal worked out. And really, I hope they don't. Because any single film that included that many superhero characters would inevitably suck.
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In comics they do all the time...in fact, the Uncanny Avengers is a team comprised of both Avengers and X-Men.

But of course in the movies they'll never meet.
Well, I thought maybe they eventually would, because they obviously have to keep upping the ante each time with the movies.. (Though I guess to go from Avengers to Iron Man 3, they sort of reverted.. in a good way..)

ok, and for others, Uncanny Avengers started in October 2012. So it's not from the 1960s or anything..

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I hear rumors of there having been some verrrrrrrrrrrrrry preliminary talks about a "grand crossover movie" that could include characters controlled by Marvel, Sony, 20th Century Fox, and possibly even Warner Brothers too. It will never happen - they'll never get a deal worked out. And really, I hope they don't. Because any single film that included that many superhero characters would inevitably suck.
I agree sort of, but the X men movies have had a whole ton of chars, and IIRC, at least 2 were pretty good.. (Geez, can't ANY of these trilogies have all good movies? Star Wars seems like the only one that's done it, but the Ewoks were mildly annoying before Jar Jar came around, and of course the new trilogy slightly tarnished the series..)
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Well, I thought maybe they eventually would, because they obviously have to keep upping the ante each time with the movies.
But they can't. Marvel doesn't have the movie rights to the X-Men. And I suspect that as long as you or I shall live, Fox would rather knowingly put out a total PoS X-Men movie than lose the rights (and I suspect will do so once or twice in the years and decades to come).
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But it's not impossible to imagine a scenario where Fox and Marvel, or Marvel and Sony, come to an agreement on a joint movie. If the money is good enough, they'd do it.
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I am still recording it and will watch 2 or 3 episodes at a time when I get to watching it. My wife doesn't want to watch it but I find it interesting enough to still watch but don't feel the need to watch it every week either.
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