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Old 01-24-2014, 07:12 AM   #1
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Stream will NEVER support android. Product is dead.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2014/...exit-hardware/'


screw tivo.... Stream will never get android support.

I am selling my unopened one while I can...
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:26 AM   #2
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Stream will NEVER support android. Product is dead.

Story is wrong. See follow ups at Ars Technica and elsewhere.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=513841
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:53 AM   #3
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screw tivo.... Stream will never get android support.

I am selling my unopened one while I can...
You are a little late Rip Van Winkle
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Old 01-24-2014, 09:57 AM   #4
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You are a little late.
And wrong.
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:16 PM   #5
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And even if they were exiting the hardware business why would that mean the stream for Android is dead? That's a software update.
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Old 01-25-2014, 09:14 AM   #6
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Probably should just delete this completely inaccurate thread Dan, especially since OP crossposted it everywhere.
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:57 PM   #7
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Doesn't bother me one bit! I never liked android devices anyways! Prefer the interface of iOS or Windows over android.

Interesting thing... If android is so much better then windows or iOS, you think that TiVo would make their app for it first!
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:51 AM   #8
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Doesn't bother me one bit! I never liked android devices anyways! Prefer the interface of iOS or Windows over android.

Interesting thing... If android is so much better then windows or iOS, you think that TiVo would make their app for it first!
It's not that iOS is better, it was probably that their market research showed that a majority of their users had iPhones over Androids at the time of decision back in 2010-11 when the product was going through requirement gathering. It seems they failed to look outside the San Jose/SF bubble to see that Apple was sitting on a paper throne, market share wise. They missed all the lower cost Android tablets that would become common place in most of their customer's homes and offices.

The entire concept was poorly thought out and executed. They should have build a device that streams to any browser and capitalize on the market of ANYONE UNDER 20 that only watch TV online on computers or tablets. By selecting a technology that was tied to iOS, they neglected defining a larger market and a new generation to potentially capture some brand loyalty from.
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Old 01-30-2014, 08:02 AM   #9
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screw tivo.... Stream will never get android support.

I am selling my unopened one while I can...
Can I have it?
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Old 01-30-2014, 03:06 PM   #10
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The entire concept was poorly thought out and executed. They should have build a device that streams to any browser and capitalize on the market of ANYONE UNDER 20 that only watch TV online on computers or tablets. By selecting a technology that was tied to iOS, they neglected defining a larger market and a new generation to potentially capture some brand loyalty from.
There wasn't and still isn't a single end-to-end technology solution that can stream to all browsers (smartphone/tablet mobiles and desktop). And I'm not talking about TiVo specifically, but the whole of the browser and video streaming landscape. You can use Microsoft Smooth Streaming, or Apple's HLS, or MPEG-DASH, or a variety of even less standardized methods, but NONE of them work universally amongst the most popular browsers right now in January of 2014, let alone when the product was being designed. At least by starting with HLS on iOS, they were able to (relatively) quickly launch into a large, and largely unfragmented market. While Android now has a larger share, the OS/device fragmentation it also has means that making a solution work across a majority of the platform is a much more costly thing to do.
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And don't forget that whatever method they used for streaming had to be encrypted and had to be approved by CableLabs. By using an open source protocol with an established encryption method that process was likely a lot easier.
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