TiVo Community
TiVo Community
TiVo Community
Go Back   TiVo Community > TiVo TV Talk > Now Playing - TV Show Talk
TiVo Community
Reply
Forum Jump
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #211
Rob Helmerichs
I am Groot!
 
Rob Helmerichs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 30,210
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beryl View Post
Agreed. Too many innocents are killed directly and indirectly caused by SAMCRO.
I'm hoping that's deliberate, and that they're working towards something. Because it is ironic that when the brutal, eager criminal was in charge, Charming was a safe place (if you weren't actually in the gang), but now that the peacenik who wants to get out of crime is the boss, innocents and law enforcement are dying left and right.
__________________
“This is the moment of truth. Are you my friend, or are you some bloodsucking network vampire?”
“Why do I have to pick one or the other?”
Rob Helmerichs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2013, 08:06 PM   #212
mrdazzo7
Registered User
 
mrdazzo7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,608
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Helmerichs View Post
I'm hoping that's deliberate, and that they're working towards something. Because it is ironic that when the brutal, eager criminal was in charge, Charming was a safe place (if you weren't actually in the gang), but now that the peacenik who wants to get out of crime is the boss, innocents and law enforcement are dying left and right.
Yeah, Sutter has said in interviews that a big part of Jax's arc is the irony of Jax hating Clay yet basically becoming him - the man he despise most, etc. We've see Jax go through just about every iteration of someone in his position - he spent season two preparing to leave then found out about Gemma's rape so he stayed to take out Zobell; season four he was going to leave with his family but then he felt obligated to the club to take over once the Clay/Piney thing got out; season five he accepted his place as President instead of constantly wanting to leave; and then watching Opie's murder just sent him off the rails, he got way darker after that.

I thought the school shooting was gonna be the catalyst that brought him back down to earth, and kind of started him on a "path to redemption", but it didn't seem to really do anything to him emotionally. It pushed him to get out of guns (which set off pretty much every death throughout the season), but he did it to get rid of the heat, not because he felt the weight of the kids' deaths (which is what I thought Sutter was going for since he said the shooting was gonna change Jax).

I'm really curious to see what Season Seven (final season?) Jax looks like. He's obviously not gonna turn himself in but at this point I feel like Patterson has to have something to be able to arrest him for. He's been playing her all season. I'm also wondering what the cops will be able to piece together from that crime scene, lol. You have one body that was beaten, drowned, and stabbed in the head with a fork and another body that was shot three times from behind. They clearly didn't kill each other. Side Note, I don't know why but Roosevelt getting shot made me jump - didn't see it coming.

This is still one of my favorite shows of all time but I think ending next season would be the right move, especially after the way this played out - it does a good job of setting up a final run of episodes. If Breaking Bad and Dexter taught us anything it's that ending a show while it's still good is the right way to do it, and ending a show three seasons too late is the wrong way.
__________________
"You're a pimp?"
"No, I'm a Companionator"
mrdazzo7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2013, 09:06 PM   #213
Rob Helmerichs
I am Groot!
 
Rob Helmerichs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 30,210
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdazzo7 View Post
Yeah, Sutter has said in interviews that a big part of Jax's arc is the irony of Jax hating Clay yet basically becoming him - the man he despise most, etc.
And in fact, he's in some ways worse than Clay ever was...Clay at least was good at keeping whatever blowback from his actions focused on the club and not the community. But with Jax, people are dropping all over the place, some of whom have no connection with his activities.
__________________
“This is the moment of truth. Are you my friend, or are you some bloodsucking network vampire?”
“Why do I have to pick one or the other?”
Rob Helmerichs is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2013, 11:32 PM   #214
Langree
The Gimp
 
Langree's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Spring, TX
Posts: 16,640
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdazzo7 View Post
I thought the school shooting was gonna be the catalyst that brought him back down to earth, and kind of started him on a "path to redemption", but it didn't seem to really do anything to him emotionally. It pushed him to get out of guns (which set off pretty much every death throughout the season), but he did it to get rid of the heat, not because he felt the weight of the kids' deaths (which is what I thought Sutter was going for since he said the shooting was gonna change Jax).
Actually getting out of guns has been his end game for pretty much the entire run, not just this season.
__________________
The TOS for the Internet clearly notes there will be people who display their ignorance without giving any warning and indeed are likely unaware they are displaying their ignorance for all to see.
Langree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2013, 10:09 AM   #215
Mikeyis4dcats
Registered User
 
Mikeyis4dcats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by midas View Post
But if she knew Jax was surrendering she'd know the deal that he cut.
IIRC she was told Jax was surrenderign at 6. People surrender all the time, she had no knowledge that Jax cut the deal, not Tara.
Mikeyis4dcats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2013, 07:20 PM   #216
midas
I heard that
 
midas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Chicago, IL USA
Posts: 8,513
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeyis4dcats View Post
IIRC she was told Jax was surrenderign at 6. People surrender all the time, she had no knowledge that Jax cut the deal, not Tara.
I don't remember that, but I have a terrible memory. But let's assume that's the case. What reason, other than trying to protect Tara, would cause Jax to do that? That's especially the case when Tara shows up.
midas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2013, 07:32 PM   #217
midas
I heard that
 
midas's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Chicago, IL USA
Posts: 8,513
But while we all rant about lazy writing and stupid characters, I just watched the final 2 episodes from 1967 of The Fugitive. At the time, the final episode was the highest rated television series episode of all time.

It was AWFUL. Nothing made sense. Every good guy/bad guy cliche was used. It was bad television at it's worst. And at the time, it was the greatest show ever.

We've truly become spoiled when we complain about shows like SOA.
midas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2013, 07:48 AM   #218
VegasVic
Craps Player
 
VegasVic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Craps Table
Posts: 2,928
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdazzo7 View Post
I
I'm really curious to see what Season Seven (final season?) Jax looks like.
Yes, it's the final season.
__________________
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'. - Bob Newhart.
VegasVic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2013, 10:23 AM   #219
gchance
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
gchance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Olivehurst, CA
Posts: 12,522
Quote:
Originally Posted by midas View Post
We've truly become spoiled when we complain about shows like SOA.
Or just about any show, really. We (TV viewers) used to put up with a LOT more as recently as ten years ago. I think people get too nitpicky here. But it's TCF.

Greg
__________________
"Too bad she died, would have been an excellent companion." - Anubys

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
|
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

5k:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
10k:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
13.1M
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
26.2M
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
gchance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2013, 12:32 PM   #220
Mr. Soze
The Devil you know
 
Mr. Soze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,952
I covered my eyes with the fork scene. I was surprised Juice didn't off himself and make all signs point to him as Tara's killer. Motive for killing her? He thought she was a rat, and it's his way of making amends with Jax.

But Kurt, Jax+Juice < Michael+Fredo. Coppola did it better.
__________________
"Your attitude sucks, Soze." ThomasDrew
"WHAT KIND OF MONSTER ARE YOU?!?" Rob Helmerichs
Mr. Soze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2013, 05:53 PM   #221
scandia101
Just the facts ma'am
 
scandia101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: MN, greater TC metro area
Posts: 8,777
I just watched the entire 6 seasons in 16 days and I have not been following any of the episode discussions over the years. So forgive me if the topic has come up before.
What is up with Gemma's bird? It started out as a moluccan cockatoo, but in season 4 (I think) Unser is feeding it and while it's in the same huge cage, it's just a little cockatiel (just the one appearance) and then later s5 or s6, the bird becomes two birds and they are crows (two appearances in separate eps).
__________________
discipuli nostrum bardissimi sunt.
scandia101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2013, 06:15 PM   #222
Howie
Out of Pocket
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 8,072
The earlier birds were killed in flyby cootings.
Howie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Forum Jump




Thread Tools


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Advertisements

TiVo Community
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Skins by: Relivo Media

(C) 2013 Magenium Solutions - All Rights Reserved. No information may be posted elsewhere without written permission.
TiVo® is a registered trademark of TiVo Inc. This site is not owned or operated by TiVo Inc.
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:34 AM.
OUR NETWORK: MyOpenRouter | TechLore | SansaCommunity | RoboCommunity | MediaSmart Home | Explore3DTV | Dijit Community | DVR Playground |