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Old 10-12-2013, 07:52 AM   #31
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OK, I'm dense. If packaging doesn't equal the enclosure then what does it mean and why would it require clearing the shelves of existing stock?
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Old 10-12-2013, 12:37 PM   #32
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Brand consistency. They want the boxes for all their devices to look similar so people know they go together.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:55 AM   #33
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But if Andorid support isn't coming until 2014, out of home streaming can only be targeted to a much smaller audience. They must have really screwed up if they plan to have a stream bundle for the Holidays but have android support coming out next year.

I know I'm glad i didn't pick up a Stream last year. I had certainly considered it.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:20 PM   #34
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I don't think the lack of Android support hurts their branding strategy. It may hurt their sales, but has no effect on the design of the box. Unless they plan on printing Apple and Android logos on the box, which may not even be legal without some sort of license agreement with those companies.
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Old 10-14-2013, 02:29 PM   #35
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I don't think the lack of Android support hurts their branding strategy. It may hurt their sales, but has no effect on the design of the box. Unless they plan on printing Apple and Android logos on the box, which may not even be legal without some sort of license agreement with those companies.

No Android support means TiVo misses out on the first big wave of holiday sales. In addition to that, I imagine there will be lingering doubt in consumers' minds when Android support is rolled out. Customers that bought and expected Stream support on non iOS devices will be less likely to try again, and it takes a while for the non-support knowledge to filter out of common knowledge pool. How to quantify that in loss of future sales is not something I know how to do, but I do believe it is significant.

Overall, it hurts Tivo's marketing effectiveness.
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:01 PM   #36
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No doubt it will hurt sales, but we're talking about TiVo clearing out current Stream inventory to make room for units with new packaging. Lack of Android support has no bearing one way or the other on that.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:13 PM   #37
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No doubt it will hurt sales, but we're talking about TiVo clearing out current Stream inventory to make room for units with new packaging. Lack of Android support has no bearing one way or the other on that.
Wouldn't it? Just by the fact that there would be more sales if Android users could use the Stream. More sales means the inventory is cleared out faster. Less sales means it takes longer to sell the old inventory. Plus not having Android support also makes for a confusing marketing strategy during the busiest shopping time of the year.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:06 PM   #38
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Unless they plan to print information on the box about what platforms are supported I still don't see how Android support, or lack there of, has any real bearing on the design of the packaging. There are a ton of other threads discussing the lack of Android support, it just seems a bit forced, and irrelevant, in this particular discussion.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:14 AM   #39
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There are a ton of other threads discussing the lack of Android support, it just seems a bit forced, and irrelevant, in this particular discussion.
Understatement of the month.
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Old 10-16-2013, 04:59 PM   #40
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Understatement of the month.
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:48 PM   #41
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I picked up a standalone TiVo Stream the other day for my 4 tuner Roamio and Premiere for $79.99 at BB in Denver. I thought I was going to get OOH streaming out of the box but alas, I guess not. TiVo customer support said to be patient. It should be released for all standalone TiVo Streams in the next few weeks.

If you can find one at BB, try to get the salesperson to search all inventory at other BB stores. I happened to notice on his computer screen that one of the stores in my area was closing it out for $79.99. I then asked for a price match saving me $10 off the $89.99 I thought I was going to pay. (A good idea anytime you are going to buy any clearanced item at a Best Buy store.)
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Old 10-28-2013, 10:00 PM   #42
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Best Buy could sell it half price and I still wouldn't buy it. Until Tivo Stream works with Android, no deal! Perhaps Tivo didn't get the memo that only iPads outsell Android devices. But Android phones and Phablets, outsell iPhones worldwide.

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Old 10-28-2013, 10:58 PM   #43
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Yes it sucks that they pushed the Android release to 2014. I could have used it yesterday when I had the Redskins game on while playing Black OPs2 on the 360. I am glad I got a SLingbox 350 from BestBuy instead of purchasing the Stream last year at BestBuy and waiting for Android support. I would have never guessed a year would have gone by without Android support being added. I figured it was coming but not over a year later.
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Old 11-04-2013, 03:35 AM   #44
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The clearance price for the Stream at my local Best Buy today was $73.99.

The Wireless N Network Adapters were also marked as on clearance. 50-something dollars, I think.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:05 PM   #45
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The clearance price for the Stream at my local Best Buy today was $73.99.

The Wireless N Network Adapters were also marked as on clearance. 50-something dollars, I think.
That is a good price. Do those wireless N adapters work with the S3 boxes? I wouldn't mind picking up a couple of them for my GFs TiVos. Right now they saturate the wireless G portion of her network when transferring since they both use wireless g. So it takes a very long time for me to transfer content from my Premiere to her TiVos with a third wireless G adapter.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:03 PM   #46
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So... You're saturating her G Spot?
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:11 PM   #47
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Best Buy just had another price drop on the Stream. Two stores in my area have them for $67.99 and one store at $69.99. Checked a few other zip codes and most stores have them at $67.99, $68.99, or $69.99.

If you go into a Best Buy and the tag shows a higher price, get someone to scan it and it should come up with the newer clearance prices.
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:23 PM   #48
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It's interesting bestbuy.com still lists it for $129.99 so it looks to me that it'll be an online only product.

But yeah my stores have it on clearance for $68. Eventually if it gets deleted from their website, to check store stock you'll need the SKU: 6303102 (Model# TCDA94000).
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:13 PM   #49
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I'm guessing that since the Streams are included in some of the newer DVRs, Best Buy must be needing to make sure they're making space for stuff that's more likely to sell.
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:57 PM   #50
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The Stream is still required for the cheaper 4 tuner
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Old 11-24-2013, 02:46 AM   #51
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Shelf tag at the Best Buy in Tupelo this afternoon had one left, knocked down to $59.99 on clearance; it rang up at full price at the register though (but they sold it to me for $59.99).

I also picked up their last TiVo Slide remote for $29.99 on clearance. So for a BB visit on a total whim, I really scored.
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Old 12-05-2013, 01:56 PM   #52
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Anyone know if they're still on clearance? Best Buy's website shows them at full price. When I searched their clearance section, I couldn't find anything.

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Old 12-06-2013, 11:20 AM   #53
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I just called my local BB (New Hampshire) today and they said $129.99
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:26 PM   #54
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I just called my local BB (New Hampshire) today and they said $129.99
You can actually call and get an answer??

Hopefully, you and jim2011 live near the same Best Buy.
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You can actually call and get an answer??

Hopefully, you and jim2011 live near the same Best Buy.
Nope, NoVA for me. I kind of figured they're not on clearance anymore since BB's website has it.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:35 AM   #56
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Are these still on the cheap at BB?
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Old 12-29-2013, 01:08 AM   #57
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Are these still on the cheap at BB?
Your best bet is to check the clearance and open box deals on Best Buy's website. It's listed under "Shops & Deals" then "Clearance & More". The desktop version of the site lets you search all stores in your area at once. Tivo stuff, I believe, is all located in TV & Home Theater then under Smart TV & Devices.
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:45 AM   #58
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IS there still an issue with the Stream and H.264 ?

An issue with H.264 was mentioned earlier in this thread.

Has this been resolved, or fixed ?

Is it hardware or software , and is TIVO going to fix it ( either way ) ?

Anyone like to provide any further clarifications or descriptions of this issue,
and if it is not resolved,
and where it's current (and possible future) status might be headed.

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Old 01-14-2014, 03:56 PM   #59
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The H.264 issue still exists. Basically if the original channel is H.264 then the Stream will not be able to do anything with shows from that channel. H.264 channels are still pretty rare in the US, but some cable companies have started to use them on a few channels. There is one guy on this forum however who has a small regional cable provider that converted all channels to H.264. For him the Stream does not work at all.

As for fixing it. As far as we can tell from the specs this is not a hardware issue, so they should be able to fix it via software. No idea when/if that'll happen though.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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