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Old 05-17-2013, 01:01 PM   #61
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Old 09-24-2013, 02:58 PM   #62
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:02 PM   #63
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"Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division."

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Old 09-24-2013, 06:45 PM   #64
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I'm really curious to see what the initial ratings for this are going to be. I'm expecting this to be huge but you never know. Whedon doesn't have a history of getting good ratings on television.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:47 PM   #65
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It does not affect me but the network is doing that screwy "let's schedule it to end at 8:01" and screw up people with DVRs who want to record other stations at 8:00.

My Dad could not get his Comcast box to record it because he was already recording the Voice and then at 8:00 wanted to record New Girl.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:51 PM   #66
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Yep, that's annoying. The 5+ tuners that some newer dvr platforms have alleviate it, but those still with one or two tuners are left to suffer.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:04 PM   #67
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It does not affect me but the network is doing that screwy "let's schedule it to end at 8:01" and screw up people with DVRs who want to record other stations at 8:00.

My Dad could not get his Comcast box to record it because he was already recording the Voice and then at 8:00 wanted to record New Girl.
That's why the Tivo clipping thing is so nice. But all this is ABC wanting to get an extra advertising minute attached to SHIELD. I'm sure doing that nets some additional income for the network but sure can be a PITA sometimes.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:12 PM   #68
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That's why the Tivo clipping thing is so nice. But all this is ABC wanting to get an extra advertising minute attached to SHIELD. I'm sure doing that nets some additional income for the network but sure can be a PITA sometimes.
Is that why they do it? I always assumed it was so people who were watching it live would miss the first minute of shows on the other channels. Consequently, they would be more likely to stay on the channel instead of flipping.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:12 PM   #69
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Okay, 11 minutes in and I'm hooked.

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Old 09-24-2013, 09:37 PM   #70
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"Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division."

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"That somebody really wanted our initials to spell 'shield.'"
Not being argumentative for the sake of it... But I think that's one of the *less* tortured backronyms.

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Yep, that's annoying. The 5+ tuners that some newer dvr platforms have alleviate it, but those still with one or two tuners are left to suffer.
Yup, tonight I have so many shows that my 4 tuners had clipping.. of course, I TRY to put at least 1 minute of padding on both ends of all shows, so that causes part of it.. I removed padding from a few others, and moved a couple of recordings to my Tivohd.. As I've said a zillion times, if Tivo could SHARE the tuner for abutting recordings on the same channel, I would effectively DOUBLE the # of tuners I have.
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Old 11-14-2013, 05:16 PM   #71
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I think the show is slowly getting better. It is obvious that this is going to be a safe procedural show like NCIS and not a story driven show like Buffy or Firefly.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:16 PM   #72
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I think the show is slowly getting better. It is obvious that this is going to be a safe procedural show like NCIS and not a story driven show like Buffy or Firefly.
Verrrrrrry slowly.

Alan Sepinwall did his usual good job in detailing the problems so far with the series. I agree with every bit of it, most especially that this team does not seem so special. There's nothing especially interesting about any of these characters, nor do they seem at all remarkable -- except maybe for May, and they don't give her anything to do.

This is a real problem for episodes like this week's (12-Nov), "The Hub", where -- staying spoiler free -- we are expected to care that part of the team is danger, and also expected to believe they are so remarkable as a unit that they were never really in danger at all. Neither one of those is remotely the case, and so all the tension goes right out of the episode (which was pretty well-written in general).

Speaking of that episode, since there is no thread for it, and it's not worth starting one for this question:

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At the end, they didn't show the photo that May was looking at long enough for me to see who it was. Was it Skye, dead? And that's why Coulson subsequently tried to get his own file about his death?

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It was an image of somebody unidentifiable using facial recognition because they had been shot in the head.

Coulsen is a separate story arc. There is a secret that is being kept from him and he knows it - we are being led to believe it is something to do with him being dead for whatever number of seconds and surviving.

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It was an image of somebody unidentifiable using facial recognition because they had been shot in the head.

Coulsen is a separate story arc. There is a secret that is being kept from him and he knows it - we are being led to believe it is something to do with him being dead for whatever number of seconds and surviving.
Understood about Coulson. I was beginning to think he was a moron for not understanding that something had happened to him when the show and everyone around him were making it so obvious, right to his face. So I had the thought that if that were Skye in the picture, dead, and yet here she is alive, he put two and two together and finally requested his file.

That said, my immediate reaction was that it was an unknown person in the photo. But when May said "poor girl", I started to wonder.

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Old 11-14-2013, 09:11 PM   #75
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I'm assuming it's Skye's Mother, who was murdered, and that's why she was left at the orphanage. The murder must've been something unusual for SHIELD to be involved, but we do know it was a SHIELD agent who left her at the orphanage, so that fits.

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Old 11-15-2013, 05:31 AM   #76
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I've gotten to the point where I can't stand Skye. Ward is bland and everything he can do May can do better and fly the plane. I've never liked either Fitz or Simmons. Hopefully, they'll find a way to make these characters more interesting.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:54 AM   #77
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I am warming a bit to Fitz and Simmons, particularly Simmons, but I still feel the show has been really "by the numbers" so far. It's cotton candy. Still hoping they can make it more than that; they've got the pieces they need for that. The thing is, the show isn't taking any risks. It's always doing the obvious thing. Often I can guess the next line, and the times I can't, it's only because it's a bon mot I didn't come up with, not an unexpected turn.
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Old 11-15-2013, 06:01 AM   #78
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I love Fitz Simmons, but I am biased.

Perhaps influenced by Skye it seems to me the unit is going rogue - if so that would make the story more intereting for me.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:52 AM   #79
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I find Skye incredibly annoying. Ward is wooden and not charismatic. I'm so so on FitzSimmons. I find the show mostly dull, which I never would have predicted.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:01 AM   #80
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Are FitzSimmons supposed to be a couple or just super tight friends? Every time they're together I think "Will you two just do it already."
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #81
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Are FitzSimmons supposed to be a couple or just super tight friends? Every time they're together I think "Will you two just do it already."
Wait I thought they were brother and sister...like twins or something. Are they not?
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:29 AM   #82
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Are FitzSimmons supposed to be a couple or just super tight friends? Every time they're together I think "Will you two just do it already."
You could have a long time to wait, They have got separate bunks and even when they were reunited after Simmons jumped out of the plane and they were sitting on Fitz's bunk Fitz kept his arms around a pillow - and then Simmons left leaving Fitz to alone on his bunk with his arms around his pillow.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:32 AM   #83
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Wait I thought they were brother and sister...like twins or something. Are they not?
This is what I thought, too.
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Wait I thought they were brother and sister...like twins or something. Are they not?
No, one is English the other Scottish

The English one shot her supervisor in the chest.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:27 AM   #85
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Yeah, he's crushing on her and she's (mostly) oblivious.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:29 AM   #86
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I like the show, I really do, but I can't help but get snapped out of the fantasy when they have things like two agents are being suroundedby a mob of bad guys with guns. *cut to shot of a c17 HOVERING above them*. Then in stead of running or shooting at it, the bad guys stand there dumbfounded and wait for the plane to stop, rotate around, and then turn on it's jets SUPERPOWER to blow them all away.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:37 AM   #87
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I like the show, I really do, but I can't help but get snapped out of the fantasy when they have things like two agents are being suroundedby a mob of bad guys with guns. *cut to shot of a c17 HOVERING above them*. Then in stead of running or shooting at it, the bad guys stand there dumbfounded and wait for the plane to stop, rotate around, and then turn on it's jets SUPERPOWER to blow them all away.
So flying cars and stun guns are ok but a hovering C17 is too much?
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:42 AM   #88
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I love Fitz Simmons, but I am biased.

Perhaps influenced by Skye it seems to me the unit is going rogue - if so that would make the story more intereting for me.
Based on the last episode, the team did exactly what "The Hub" wanted them to.
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I like the show, I really do, but I can't help but get snapped out of the fantasy when they have things like two agents are being suroundedby a mob of bad guys with guns. *cut to shot of a c17 HOVERING above them*. Then in stead of running or shooting at it, the bad guys stand there dumbfounded and wait for the plane to stop, rotate around, and then turn on it's jets SUPERPOWER to blow them all away.
Yeah, I can see that but I could also see the soldiers all getting just a little dumbfounded by a huge jet hovering over them. Might just keep them all stunned for a 10-20 seconds possibly.

But I would rather see the jet come in at slightly less then Mach 2 and scream over their heads at about 10 feet. The SHIELD agents would, of course, be "safe" since they were not directly under the plane.

Or the plane could have come done right on top of the soldiers and just sprayed them every which way...
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So flying cars and stun guns are ok but a hovering C17 is too much?
I don't think it's the idea of the plane hovering that DTF was complaining about. It was the fact that the soldiers all stood around and didn't take any evasive action or trying to secure the prisoners while the plane was maneuvering into that position.
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